Question for Ryan and supporters of the Tax Bill

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

And considering how many pensions, 401k's and other investment vehicles of all classes are shareholders, how is that such a bad thing?

Worker wages, as a percentage of overall costs, are at levels not seen since the Guilded Age. Workers haven’t seen their wages increase in any real way since Reagan.

The working class no longer has savings and are dependent on earned income credits and other government assistance. That assistance is funded by middle class taxpayers.

Corporations and the wealthy don’t need more money, workers do. Trump sold the tax cuts to a skeptical public on the idea that companies would give their workers raises. Without raises, the Middle Class is paying for the food stamps and the EIC’s.

That’s what’s wrong with it.

Workers haven’t seen their wages increase in any real way since Reagan.

What's going on with total compensation?

 

[BULLDOG]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages, but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO. Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags, and that will assure the money will actually go for what right wingers claim it will go for. Otherwise, it's just free money with no benefit to the country.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages,

All of it? Really? Who claimed that?

but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO.

And more jobs, higher stock prices, larger GDP.

Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags,

No.

Otherwise, it's just free money

Letting a company bring back money they earned overseas
and already paid overseas taxes on is "free money"?

That's hilarious!!!

with no benefit to the country.

I thought you said it results in "more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO"?

Were you lying then or lying now?

Your remarks are tdta--Too dumb to answer

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

Corporations are already awash in cash and they’re not spending it on hiring or increased wages. They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Corporations are already awash in cash

And they didn't build that, eh?

and they’re not spending it on hiring

After all those jobs Obama created (or saved)?

They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Well then we'll have to watch for the added dividend tax revenue, the added CEO income tax revenue, the added capital gains tax revenue and the added sales growth from all those rich dudes spending their dividends and raises.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages, but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO. Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags, and that will assure the money will actually go for what right wingers claim it will go for. Otherwise, it's just free money with no benefit to the country.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages,

All of it? Really? Who claimed that?

but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO.

And more jobs, higher stock prices, larger GDP.

Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags,

No.

Otherwise, it's just free money

Letting a company bring back money they earned overseas
and already paid overseas taxes on is "free money"?

That's hilarious!!!

with no benefit to the country.

I thought you said it results in "more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO"?

Were you lying then or lying now?

Your remarks are tdta--Too dumb to answer

Yeah, they highlight your idiocy.

 

[Nia88]

I honestly do not know how a non-wealthy republican can support these tax cuts. Because their taxes aren't getting cut. In fact middle and working class people will be paying more in taxes in the next couple of years. While the rich will richer.

Its reverse robin hood.

 

[Dragonlady]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

Corporations are already awash in cash and they’re not spending it on hiring or increased wages. They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Corporations are already awash in cash

And they didn't build that, eh?

and they’re not spending it on hiring

After all those jobs Obama created (or saved)?

They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Well then we'll have to watch for the added dividend tax revenue, the added CEO income tax revenue, the added capital gains tax revenue and the added sales growth from all those rich dudes spending their dividends and raises.

Trickle down didn’t work under Reagan and it didn’t work under W. Third time is NOT the charm. The only thing tax cuts have achieved is the greatest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen - all of it from the working and middle class to the wealthy.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Republicans are, by definition, insane.

 

[S.J.]

Analysis | The Senate just passed a massive tax bill. Here’s what is in it

 

[RealDave]

The fake tax cut provide their masters with a fake tax cut as they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts. The real meat of this bill is the ass fucking of the poor, middle class and it allows the republican party to do what they will do next...

Next as in go after anything that helps the poor or middle class and all social protection in the work place.

they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts

I wonder if that's the reason the money is offshore?

How does this make America Great Again?

Bringing a couple of trillion dollars back to our shores sounds like a good idea to me.

By rewarding bad behavior.

Earning money is bad behavior? Is interest theft?

Ask the fellows at Enron.

Corporations abused the tax law and that hurt America & you love them for it.

And the banker & mortgage sellers & Mortgage backed securities dealers did no bad making money that nearly caused a financial meltdown, According to you, that was great.

You;re a fucking moron.

 

[RealDave]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

Not at all. Congress knew what was in the ACA when they voted.

If you weren't such an ignorant ass, you would know Pelosi was talking to constituents, not law makers.

 

[jknowgood]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

Not at all. Congress knew what was in the ACA when they voted.

If you weren't such an ignorant ass, you would know Pelosi was talking to constituents, not law makers.

She we have to pass it, to find out what is in it. What part of that, don't you understand?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

If so, though I don't see your reasoning (corporations are people too?). The fact is the corporate tax is a legal tax and not theft, corporations earn money by using highways, airports sea ports,, streets, yellow zones, police and fire services, etc. etc. All of which are paid for by tax payers.

 

[The Derp]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

We also did this very thing in 2004 and it didn't deliver on any of the promises made of it. In fact, the top firms cut jobs after repatriation.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

If so, though I don't see your reasoning (corporations are people too?). The fact is the corporate tax is a legal tax and not theft, corporations earn money by using highways, airports sea ports,, streets, yellow zones, police and fire services, etc. etc. All of which are paid for by tax payers.

You do realise that business do not pay corporate taxes. They add this cost to the price of goods and services.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

Not at all. Congress knew what was in the ACA when they voted.

If you weren't such an ignorant ass, you would know Pelosi was talking to constituents, not law makers.

She we have to pass it, to find out what is in it. What part of that, don't you understand?

It's you who fail to understand because you are biddable and do not or can not think by yourself. The Speaker was speaking to We the People on how the effort to make health insurance more affordable and accessible would work in the real world.

It's no wonder democracy in America failed, and allowed the Republican's to gain power. People like you were scared when the Power Elite invoked the RED SCARE.

"socialism!!!! And fools believed them.

 

[RealDave]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

If so, though I don't see your reasoning (corporations are people too?). The fact is the corporate tax is a legal tax and not theft, corporations earn money by using highways, airports sea ports,, streets, yellow zones, police and fire services, etc. etc. All of which are paid for by tax payers.

You do realise that business do not pay corporate taxes. They add this cost to the price of goods and services.

OMG not this stupid argument again.

I don't buy my own groceries, my employer does.

 

[RealDave]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

If so, though I don't see your reasoning (corporations are people too?). The fact is the corporate tax is a legal tax and not theft, corporations earn money by using highways, airports sea ports,, streets, yellow zones, police and fire services, etc. etc. All of which are paid for by tax payers.

Look at the oil companies. How much of our military spending the last 50 years has been because we needed to keep the oil flowing from the Middle East?

 

[RealDave]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

Corporations are already awash in cash and they’re not spending it on hiring or increased wages. They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Corporations are already awash in cash

And they didn't build that, eh?

and they’re not spending it on hiring

After all those jobs Obama created (or saved)?

They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

Well then we'll have to watch for the added dividend tax revenue, the added CEO income tax revenue, the added capital gains tax revenue and the added sales growth from all those rich dudes spending their dividends and raises.

I see you are avoiding answering the questions with more of your really stupid smart ass remarks.




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[RealDave]

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

Not at all. Congress knew what was in the ACA when they voted.

If you weren't such an ignorant ass, you would know Pelosi was talking to constituents, not law makers.

She we have to pass it, to find out what is in it. What part of that, don't you understand?

Jesus Christ you are stupid.

The Senate was asked to vote on the boll they had not read.

The Senate knew what was in the ACA.

Pelosi was not talking to law makers.

 

[The Derp]

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

Not at all. Congress knew what was in the ACA when they voted.

If you weren't such an ignorant ass, you would know Pelosi was talking to constituents, not law makers.

She we have to pass it, to find out what is in it. What part of that, don't you understand?

Jesus Christ you are stupid.

The Senate was asked to vote on the boll they had not read.

The Senate knew what was in the ACA.

Pelosi was not talking to law makers.

When Conservatives say Pelosi said "we have to pass it so we know what's in it," they leave off the last half of that statement, "outside the fog of controversy".

So the full statement of Pelosi reads: "We have to pass it so we know what's in it, outside the fog of controversy".

The irony is that by Conservatives lopping off the second half of her statement, they prove the entire statement true!

 

[Dragonlady]

The same holds true of McDonalds, Walmart, Hilton, or any other large multi-national corporation doing business abroad. When their assets or properties are threatened, the US intervened to protect “American interests”. Notice how Trump didn’t include any country where HE has a hotel in his Muslim ban.

If you look at the history of American intervention abroad, it’s always to protect the assets of large American corporations. Countries where American owned companies have no “interests”, the citizens are left to their own devices when calamity strikes.

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

If so, though I don't see your reasoning (corporations are people too?). The fact is the corporate tax is a legal tax and not theft, corporations earn money by using highways, airports sea ports,, streets, yellow zones, police and fire services, etc. etc. All of which are paid for by tax payers.

Look at the oil companies. How much of our military spending the last 50 years has been because we needed to keep the oil flowing from the Middle East?