Question for Ryan and supporters of the Tax Bill

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

How do dividends create jobs?

I just bought a car with some dividends.....no jobs there, eh?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The fake tax cut provide their masters with a fake tax cut as they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts. The real meat of this bill is the ass fucking of the poor, middle class and it allows the republican party to do what they will do next...

Next as in go after anything that helps the poor or middle class and all social protection in the work place.

they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts

I wonder if that's the reason the money is offshore?

How does this make America Great Again?

Bringing a couple of trillion dollars back to our shores sounds like a good idea to me.

You approve of creating a larger wealth disparity in the US? Why?

The US economy is driven by consumers, in particular middle class spending! Do you doubt that?

You approve of creating a larger wealth disparity in the US? Why?

Don't bring trillions back, because poor people don't own stock? LOL!

The US economy is driven by consumers, in particular middle class spending!

Define the middle class income range.
Explain why more dividends and higher stock prices don't benefit people in that range.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

How do dividends create jobs?

I just bought a car with some dividends.....no jobs there, eh?

One data point does not belie the number of cars in parking areas near shopping centers, stadiums, restaurants, theaters, strip malls and on the Main streets of America.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

The Corporate tax is a thinly veiled Federal sales tax.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The fake tax cut provide their masters with a fake tax cut as they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts. The real meat of this bill is the ass fucking of the poor, middle class and it allows the republican party to do what they will do next...

Next as in go after anything that helps the poor or middle class and all social protection in the work place.

they're already mostly paying less then this in offshored accounts

I wonder if that's the reason the money is offshore?

How does this make America Great Again?

Bringing a couple of trillion dollars back to our shores sounds like a good idea to me.

By rewarding bad behavior.

Earning money is bad behavior? Is interest theft?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

How do dividends create jobs?

I just bought a car with some dividends.....no jobs there, eh?

One data point does not belie the number of cars in parking areas near shopping centers, stadiums, restaurants, theaters, strip malls and on the Main streets of America.

Non sequitur much?

 

[jknowgood]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

We wouldn't want a couple of trillion to return to the US and be paid out as dividends.

Huh?

How do dividends create jobs?

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

LOL NO ONE HAS, And not one person who voted for it.

Kinda like Obama care? Pelosi we must vote for it, to find out what's in it?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hey, let's add more regulations because those never distort the market or cause any damage, eh?

Regulations can distort markets, but they can also add value to it by making it more trustworthy and stable too.

 

[BULLDOG]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Though middle class tax payers will be able to keep more of their money in red states do to the repeal of SALT, blue state middle class people will also save on their taxes too.

If you disagree, please explain with some facts.

 

[BULLDOG]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

Has ANYONE read the tax reform bill.300 pages presented a few hours before the vote. Some of it was scribbled in the margins.

 

[jknowgood]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

Has ANYONE read the tax reform bill.300 pages presented a few hours before the vote. Some of it was scribbled in the margins.

Then why are you saying it only benefits the rich? If you haven't read it.

 

[martybegan]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

And considering how many pensions, 401k's and other investment vehicles of all classes are shareholders, how is that such a bad thing?

 

[martybegan]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Have you read the tax reform bill?

Has ANYONE read the tax reform bill.300 pages presented a few hours before the vote. Some of it was scribbled in the margins.

Considering there is no committee version of the bill yet, both the House and Senate versions are only drafts.

Once they fight it out, then the bill is something that can be debated on accurately.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

 

[BULLDOG]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages, but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO. Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags, and that will assure the money will actually go for what right wingers claim it will go for. Otherwise, it's just free money with no benefit to the country.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

And considering how many pensions, 401k's and other investment vehicles of all classes are shareholders, how is that such a bad thing?

Worker wages, as a percentage of overall costs, are at levels not seen since the Guilded Age. Workers haven’t seen their wages increase in any real way since Reagan.

The working class no longer has savings and are dependent on earned income credits and other government assistance. That assistance is funded by middle class taxpayers.

Corporations and the wealthy don’t need more money, workers do. Trump sold the tax cuts to a skeptical public on the idea that companies would give their workers raises. Without raises, the Middle Class is paying for the food stamps and the EIC’s.

That’s what’s wrong with it.

 

[Dragonlady]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

Corporations are already awash in cash and they’re not spending it on hiring or increased wages. They won’t be hiring or giving out raises with this money either.

 

[martybegan]

Why have the republicans given corporations a tax cut, and not a tax credit for profits stored overseas?

The Republican's claim this repatriated money will be used to provide jobs, but there is no guarantee it will be used to do so.

Corporations have already said that the windfall won’t be used for employee raises or job creation. It’ll be paid out to the shareholders.

And considering how many pensions, 401k's and other investment vehicles of all classes are shareholders, how is that such a bad thing?

Worker wages, as a percentage of overall costs, are at levels not seen since the Guilded Age. Workers haven’t seen their wages increase in any real way since Reagan.

The working class no longer has savings and are dependent on earned income credits and other government assistance. That assistance is funded by middle class taxpayers.

Corporations and the wealthy don’t need more money, workers do. Trump sold the tax cuts to a skeptical public on the idea that companies would give their workers raises. Without raises, the Middle Class is paying for the food stamps and the EIC’s.

That’s what’s wrong with it.

Working class jobs are being replaced with automation because it is cheaper to build and maintain a robot than to pay wages to workers that demand increasing pay for the same value of work.

Then you have sub-working class jobs, like fast food jobs, that were never meant to be careers being passed off a such because they were something that was not being automated until recently with the calls for the "livable wage", which again asks companies to pay above the value of work being added to the product and/or service.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tax credits would be a bad idea.

Why?

We want this money to come back.
Adding hoops will reduce the amount returned, reduce the benefit of money that does.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages, but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO. Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags, and that will assure the money will actually go for what right wingers claim it will go for. Otherwise, it's just free money with no benefit to the country.

The right claims all that money will be spent on hiring more people and raising wages,

All of it? Really? Who claimed that?

but every other effort at trickle down has only resulted in more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO.

And more jobs, higher stock prices, larger GDP.

Tie a tax credit to more jobs and higher wags,

No.

Otherwise, it's just free money

Letting a company bring back money they earned overseas
and already paid overseas taxes on is "free money"?

That's hilarious!!!

with no benefit to the country.

I thought you said it results in "more money in stock holders pockets and raises for the CEO"?

Were you lying then or lying now?