Quarantines are basically ineffective

[harmonica]

...we have a Chinese lady at our work who went to China to visit relatives for the Chinese New Year ....she doesn't have THE VIRUS....neither does anyone at our company

 

[mudwhistle]

Unless you place every individual
In a bubble for months at a time.

The mathematical potential for rate of increase works both ways. If you consider the inverse proportionality of the natural logarithm then you understand the massive efforts at isolation are effective up until just under three contacts per person. After that the exponential rate of decrease flat lines. What does this mean? It means that anyone who is contagious who has been in contact with at least four people has completely defeated the idea of quarantine. I'm guessing that's just about everyone who's caught the virus.

At this point the quarantine becomes simply a feel good measure that will have no actual results on the rate of contagion. The only real way to combat the spread is to develop an effective vaccine.

Jo

I agree. Because of the lack of available testing we have no idea how far this has spread already.

Yeah....lack of testing.
Meanwhile you support things that only make the spread of disease worse. (Open borders, sanctuary cities, etc.)

 

[rightwinger]

In an area with a large number of cases, quarantine is the best defense until an effective vaccine is available.

Those who are old or have certain medical issues should also limit contact with outsiders.

In this era older people are the most mobile in human history. Not an easy task.

They have a choice to limit their public exposure.

 

[mudwhistle]

Every path to infection that you can cut off helps

Yeah.

Cut off that path with a wall.

 

[mudwhistle]

I think shutting down Congress is a good start.
Next.... shut down CNN and MSNBC.

 

[justoffal]

Unless you place every individual
In a bubble for months at a time.

The mathematical potential for rate of increase works both ways. If you consider the inverse proportionality of the natural logarithm then you understand the massive efforts at isolation are effective up until just under three contacts per person. After that the exponential rate of decrease flat lines. What does this mean? It means that anyone who is contagious who has been in contact with at least four people has completely defeated the idea of quarantine. I'm guessing that's just about everyone who's caught the virus.

At this point the quarantine becomes simply a feel good measure that will have no actual results on the rate of contagion. The only real way to combat the spread is to develop an effective vaccine.

Jo

I agree. Because of the lack of available testing we have no idea how far this has spread already.

Yeah....lack of testing.
Meanwhile you support things that only make the spread of disease worse. (Open borders, sanctuary cities, etc.)

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

In an area with a large number of cases, quarantine is the best defense until an effective vaccine is available.

Those who are old or have certain medical issues should also limit contact with outsiders.

In this era older people are the most mobile in human history. Not an easy task.

They have a choice to limit their public exposure.

How?
Jo

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah.

Cut off that path with a wall.

An idiotic idea, of course. Are you trying to keep the coronavirus out of Mexico? Dumbass ..

 

[justoffal]

...we have a Chinese lady at our work who went to China to visit relatives for the Chinese New Year ....she doesn't have THE VIRUS....neither does anyone at our company

It doesn't matter....Trump still eats puppies!

Jo

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Um, the test serves to confirm that you have it, if you have it.

 

[justoffal]

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Um, the test serves to confirm that you have it, if you have it.

So you're saying that only people who have symptoms should be tested? If so this is exactly my point.

Jo

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you're saying that only people who have symptoms should be tested?

Yes, save for certain professions, when there are not an unlimited number of tests.

And if the tests are unlimited, and you test everyone, you can learn more about the virus and how it spreads.

 

[rightwinger]

In an area with a large number of cases, quarantine is the best defense until an effective vaccine is available.

Those who are old or have certain medical issues should also limit contact with outsiders.

In this era older people are the most mobile in human history. Not an easy task.

They have a choice to limit their public exposure.

How?
Jo

Ummm....stay home

 

[rightwinger]

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Um, the test serves to confirm that you have it, if you have it.

So you're saying that only people who have symptoms should be tested? If so this is exactly my point.

Jo

Or those who have been exposed to the virus

 

[justoffal]

In an area with a large number of cases, quarantine is the best defense until an effective vaccine is available.

Those who are old or have certain medical issues should also limit contact with outsiders.

In this era older people are the most mobile in human history. Not an easy task.

They have a choice to limit their public exposure.

How?
Jo

Ummm....stay home

Not that easy.....
Jo

 

[Care4all]

Who blamed Obama for ebola?

GOP lawmakers and right wing pundits. Which, of course, means all the tea party lemmings then repeated it.

and don't forget Trump... he was loud on it.... videos are out there of him bitching....

and this site had threads from right wingers blaming Obama....

 

[mudwhistle]

Unless you place every individual
In a bubble for months at a time.

The mathematical potential for rate of increase works both ways. If you consider the inverse proportionality of the natural logarithm then you understand the massive efforts at isolation are effective up until just under three contacts per person. After that the exponential rate of decrease flat lines. What does this mean? It means that anyone who is contagious who has been in contact with at least four people has completely defeated the idea of quarantine. I'm guessing that's just about everyone who's caught the virus.

At this point the quarantine becomes simply a feel good measure that will have no actual results on the rate of contagion. The only real way to combat the spread is to develop an effective vaccine.

Jo

I agree. Because of the lack of available testing we have no idea how far this has spread already.

Yeah....lack of testing.
Meanwhile you support things that only make the spread of disease worse. (Open borders, sanctuary cities, etc.)

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Jo

Which means it's Trump's fault due to lack of testing.
We need to be tested every hour on the hour.

 

[Aletheia4u]

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[rightwinger]

Unless you place every individual
In a bubble for months at a time.

The mathematical potential for rate of increase works both ways. If you consider the inverse proportionality of the natural logarithm then you understand the massive efforts at isolation are effective up until just under three contacts per person. After that the exponential rate of decrease flat lines. What does this mean? It means that anyone who is contagious who has been in contact with at least four people has completely defeated the idea of quarantine. I'm guessing that's just about everyone who's caught the virus.

At this point the quarantine becomes simply a feel good measure that will have no actual results on the rate of contagion. The only real way to combat the spread is to develop an effective vaccine.

Jo

I agree. Because of the lack of available testing we have no idea how far this has spread already.

Yeah....lack of testing.
Meanwhile you support things that only make the spread of disease worse. (Open borders, sanctuary cities, etc.)

The stupid part about the testing is that it only indicates your current condition.
You can test clean then promptly walk out the door and contact the virus.

Jo

Which means it's Trump's fault due to lack of testing.
We need to be tested every hour on the hour.

It would be nice if you could be tested at all

 

[RealDave]

Unless you place every individual
In a bubble for months at a time.

The mathematical potential for rate of increase works both ways. If you consider the inverse proportionality of the natural logarithm then you understand the massive efforts at isolation are effective up until just under three contacts per person. After that the exponential rate of decrease flat lines. What does this mean? It means that anyone who is contagious who has been in contact with at least four people has completely defeated the idea of quarantine. I'm guessing that's just about everyone who's caught the virus.

At this point the quarantine becomes simply a feel good measure that will have no actual results on the rate of contagion. The only real way to combat the spread is to develop an effective vaccine.

Jo

Baloney.

You think that running around in public while contagious is not better than being isolated?