Qs for Climategate deniers

[Muhammed]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

 

[IanC]

The climategate emails show that the private thoughts of many climate scientists do not match their public speech.

 

[Freewill]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

It does not matter, win at all cost.

 

[IanC]

Old rocks- if you don't want to talk about climategate emails, that's fine and to be expected but stop spamming this thread with deflections. There are plenty of active threads on the El Nino already.

 

[IanC]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

Have you ever thought about asking an intelligent question? Try it some time.

He did ask an intelligent and pertinent question. Why did Mann clip and prune the proxies he used to exaggerate the fit? Also, why did he pad the terminal points of the proxies with instrumental data to align the splice?

You guys are quick to present ad hominem but you never seem to address the actual questions.

 

[IanC]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

Have you ever thought about asking an intelligent question? Try it some time.

He did ask an intelligent and pertinent question. Why did Mann clip and prune the proxies he used to exaggerate the fit? Also, why did he pad the terminal points of the proxies with instrumental data to align the splice?

You guys are quick to present ad hominem but you never seem to address the actual questions.

I guess he's just lucky to have you around to interpret and translate for him. Otherwise he'd sound pretty stupid, wouldn't he.

Like I said- all ad homs no substance.

It is a travesty that climate science did not come down hard on Mann's mistakes and incorrect methodologies. If they had done the right thing 15 years ago we wouldn't have anywhere near as much tainted work published.

 

[IanC]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

Have you ever thought about asking an intelligent question? Try it some time.

He did ask an intelligent and pertinent question. Why did Mann clip and prune the proxies he used to exaggerate the fit? Also, why did he pad the terminal points of the proxies with instrumental data to align the splice?

You guys are quick to present ad hominem but you never seem to address the actual questions.

I guess he's just lucky to have you around to interpret and translate for him. Otherwise he'd sound pretty stupid, wouldn't he.

Like I said- all ad homs no substance.

It is a travesty that climate science did not come down hard on Mann's mistakes and incorrect methodologies. If they had done the right thing 15 years ago we wouldn't have anywhere near as much tainted work published.

As if anyone on this forum could recognize tainted work without media outlets to guide them.

I fail to see your reasoning. Are you saying that mistakes are only real if a person finds them by himself? Everyone has to reinvent the wheel, every day?

Mann made a serious mistake by cherrypicking not only the proxies he used but also the PORTIONS of the proxies he used. If you cannot see the problem with that you fail to understand the concept of science.

 

[PredFan]

Evidence of the scam:

1. "The science is settled now stfu!"
2. Fudging of data
3. Cherry picking data
4. Intimidation of dissenters
5. Changing the name multiple times
And the best indicators that it's a scam is:
6. The answer to the problem is electing Democrats, and socialist policies.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The climate has never changed and humans do not have an impact on anything. God will handle everything.

 

[mamooth]

Muhammed, given that the deniers were already revealed several times to be liars and frauds concerning the topic of Climategate, why bring it up again? Do you just want further humiliation?

I'm guessing it's more of a cult initiation thing. If Muhammed shows to his fellow cultists here how he so lovingly kisses the keisters of proven denier frauds and liars, he'll earn major brownie points with his cult. If he never leaves the safe zone of his cult, it won't matter that the rest of the world laughs at him.

 

[PredFan]

Evidence of the scam:

No, evidence you're a gutless cult crybaby.

You suck at the science, and everyone is laughing at you. You could up your game at science, but that would take work. So you just cry and invent conspiracy theories.

You don't have to be such a wuss, Predfan. You've deliberately chosen your life of wussery. I hope for your sake that the emotional warm fuzzies you get from your fellow cultists are worth the constant laughter you get from the rest of the world. But, judging from your constant crying, that doesn't seem to be the case. So why not choose a less wussy path?

Plenty of evidence. Just because it destroys your argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Actually not only am I very fluent in science, I'm also very fluent in history. If you were even a little literate in either, you would know why that's important.

Calling me a wuss doesn't make your point moron, and it says a LOT more about you than it does me.

 

[IanC]

What lies or fraud were perpetrated in the climategate emails? I haven't heard of a single one being denied by the authors.

Unlike the bogus addition by Gleick when he fraudulently obtained Heartland documents.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Could you explain how using a "trick" to "hide" things constitutes sound science?

Have you ever thought about asking an intelligent question? Try it some time.

He did ask an intelligent and pertinent question. Why did Mann clip and prune the proxies he used to exaggerate the fit? Also, why did he pad the terminal points of the proxies with instrumental data to align the splice?

You guys are quick to present ad hominem but you never seem to address the actual questions.

I guess he's just lucky to have you around to interpret and translate for him. Otherwise he'd sound pretty stupid, wouldn't he.

Like I said- all ad homs no substance.

It is a travesty that climate science did not come down hard on Mann's mistakes and incorrect methodologies. If they had done the right thing 15 years ago we wouldn't have anywhere near as much tainted work published.

As if anyone on this forum could recognize tainted work without media outlets to guide them.

You are a real tool... You haven got a clue about real science.. All you have is your masters "paid to post" crap.. No intelligent discussion about anything... Is your IQ greater than 1. I know rocks that have better debating skills and intelligence than you have. As you spew nothing but troll turds it is a safe bet your IQ is ZERO.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The climate has never changed and humans do not have an impact on anything. God will handle everything.

Muhammed, given that the deniers were already revealed several times to be liars and frauds concerning the topic of Climategate, why bring it up again? Do you just want further humiliation?

I'm guessing it's more of a cult initiation thing. If Muhammed shows to his fellow cultists here how he so lovingly kisses the keisters of proven denier frauds and liars, he'll earn major brownie points with his cult. If he never leaves the safe zone of his cult, it won't matter that the rest of the world laughs at him.

The shear ignorance of these posts is stunning.. It really is cult like adherence to the talking points despite mountains of evidence showing the fraud..

 

[Kosh]

The climate has never changed and humans do not have an impact on anything. God will handle everything.

Muhammed, given that the deniers were already revealed several times to be liars and frauds concerning the topic of Climategate, why bring it up again? Do you just want further humiliation?

I'm guessing it's more of a cult initiation thing. If Muhammed shows to his fellow cultists here how he so lovingly kisses the keisters of proven denier frauds and liars, he'll earn major brownie points with his cult. If he never leaves the safe zone of his cult, it won't matter that the rest of the world laughs at him.

The shear ignorance of these posts is stunning.. It really is cult like adherence to the talking points despite mountains of evidence showing the fraud..

No this ignorance is on display all the time in this forum.

AGW is a cult and a religion not based on science, many of these AGW "scientists" also believe in the theory of Gaia. That is also becoming a religion..

Gaia hypothesis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

This is even being taught in science classes in universities..

The Gaia Hypothesis

 

[mamooth]

Pickins' must be getting mighty thin in Denierstan, if they're trying to resurrect a dead horse at this stage of decomposition.

As one example of denier fraud, the "trick" phrase. "Trick" was used to mean "a clever thing", not "a deception". Yet all the deniers tried to deliberately pass off the fraud that it meant "deception".

And none of the deniers are sorry for attempting such fraud. They're only sorry they got caught.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The climate has never changed and humans do not have an impact on anything. God will handle everything.

Muhammed, given that the deniers were already revealed several times to be liars and frauds concerning the topic of Climategate, why bring it up again? Do you just want further humiliation?

I'm guessing it's more of a cult initiation thing. If Muhammed shows to his fellow cultists here how he so lovingly kisses the keisters of proven denier frauds and liars, he'll earn major brownie points with his cult. If he never leaves the safe zone of his cult, it won't matter that the rest of the world laughs at him.

The shear ignorance of these posts is stunning.. It really is cult like adherence to the talking points despite mountains of evidence showing the fraud..

No this ignorance is on display all the time in this forum.

AGW is a cult and a religion not based on science, many of these AGW "scientists" also believe in the theory of Gaia. That is also becoming a religion..

Gaia hypothesis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

This is even being taught in science classes in universities..

The Gaia Hypothesis

Kind of interesting cult propaganda being spewen at our universities.. Scary actually, that they would try and replace religion with their own brand..

 

[TheOldSchool]

The climate has never changed and humans do not have an impact on anything. God will handle everything.

Muhammed, given that the deniers were already revealed several times to be liars and frauds concerning the topic of Climategate, why bring it up again? Do you just want further humiliation?

I'm guessing it's more of a cult initiation thing. If Muhammed shows to his fellow cultists here how he so lovingly kisses the keisters of proven denier frauds and liars, he'll earn major brownie points with his cult. If he never leaves the safe zone of his cult, it won't matter that the rest of the world laughs at him.

The shear ignorance of these posts is stunning.. It really is cult like adherence to the talking points despite mountains of evidence showing the fraud..

No this ignorance is on display all the time in this forum.

AGW is a cult and a religion not based on science, many of these AGW "scientists" also believe in the theory of Gaia. That is also becoming a religion..

Gaia hypothesis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

This is even being taught in science classes in universities..

The Gaia Hypothesis

Kind of interesting cult propaganda being spewen at our universities.. Scary actually, that they would try and replace religion with their own brand..

There is only one true God. And He has given us this world to do with as we please. There is absolutely no way that puny humans could ever impact His almighty creation. If you look throughout history, there is ZERO evidence that humans have ever had any effect on nature, or anything else for that matter.

 

[IanC]

Pickins' must be getting mighty thin in Denierstan, if they're trying to resurrect a dead horse at this stage of decomposition.

As one example of denier fraud, the "trick" phrase. "Trick" was used to mean "a clever thing", not "a deception". Yet all the deniers tried to deliberately pass off the fraud that it meant "deception".

And none of the deniers are sorry for attempting such fraud. They're only sorry they got caught.

Except the trick was a deception.

 

[Liminal]

Have you ever thought about asking an intelligent question? Try it some time.

He did ask an intelligent and pertinent question. Why did Mann clip and prune the proxies he used to exaggerate the fit? Also, why did he pad the terminal points of the proxies with instrumental data to align the splice?

You guys are quick to present ad hominem but you never seem to address the actual questions.

I guess he's just lucky to have you around to interpret and translate for him. Otherwise he'd sound pretty stupid, wouldn't he.

Like I said- all ad homs no substance.

It is a travesty that climate science did not come down hard on Mann's mistakes and incorrect methodologies. If they had done the right thing 15 years ago we wouldn't have anywhere near as much tainted work published.

As if anyone on this forum could recognize tainted work without media outlets to guide them.

You are a real tool... You haven got a clue about real science.. All you have is your masters "paid to post" crap.. No intelligent discussion about anything... Is your IQ greater than 1. I know rocks that have better debating skills and intelligence than you have. As you spew nothing but troll turds it is a safe bet your IQ is ZERO.

You mean "real science" as defined by certain media outlets.