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The USG can't control what will happen in a post Assad Syria. Iraq and Libya demonstrate this completely. And who the fuck do you think you are to determine the fate of foreign nations. Is the right to self determination a foreign concept to you?True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
Every nation has the right for self determination in spite of the agenda of the Global Elite. Interesting to see your accusation of "Russian plant" in order to discredit the author thus the content of the post. You need to stick with polling and statistics or writing prescriptions.
When Assad was killing his own citizens, yes, we're quite likely to bomb them....you forgot to mention bombing Assad's troops instead of ISIS thus the Russians were forced to bring in air defense systems to protect those troops who were actually fighting ISIS.True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
It would only happen under Assad. Had obama not interfered, Assad would have put that rebellion down and kicked isis out within a week. All those people would still be alive and there would be no refugee crisis.True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
Every nation has the right for self determination in spite of the agenda of the Global Elite. Interesting to see your accusation of "Russian plant" in order to discredit the author thus the content of the post. You need to stick with polling and statistics or writing prescriptions.
Every nation has a right to self-determination? You mean like Cuba, which teh US put under punitive for 50+ years? Or Chile, who democratically elected Allende and who was overthrown by the CIA-backed Pinochet? That kind of self-determination?
And Russia is not under any kind of self-determination regime at the moment. It is at best a one-party state, at worst a dictatorship.
The Russia plant analogy was almost tongue in cheek...
China and North Korea are more of a threat.
For example, North Korea is being run by a complete madman, also are you aware that there are actual concentration camps in North Korea?
The UN, not an organisation I'm a fan of, they did a report on them, of course then in typical fashion it seems to have been filed and no action taken.
You can read about North Korea's myriad of concentration camps and also there's a map of them at the below link:
North Korea’s Largest Concentration Camps on Google Earth
Also you can read the words of Oh Gyeung Seob, a research fellow at the Sejong Institute, he spoke at a symposium called “Anti-Human Rights in North Korean Political Prison Camps,” which was hosted by the Korean Peninsula Forum and was sponsored by the Network for North Korean Democracy and Human Rights at the National Human Rights Commission of Korea.
North Korea's Climate of Fear Explained
So, you just made the case of U.S. interventions more serious than "influencing elections" what the CIA does constantly anyway. Your post turns out to be the pot calling the kettle black....Every nation has the right for self determination in spite of the agenda of the Global Elite. Interesting to see your accusation of "Russian plant" in order to discredit the author thus the content of the post. You need to stick with polling and statistics or writing prescriptions.
Every nation has a right to self-determination? You mean like Cuba, which teh US put under punitive for 50+ years? Or Chile, who democratically elected Allende and who was overthrown by the CIA-backed Pinochet? That kind of self-determination?
And Russia is not under any kind of self-determination regime at the moment. It is at best a one-party state, at worst a dictatorship.
The Russia plant analogy was almost tongue in cheek...
China and North Korea are more of a threat.
For example, North Korea is being run by a complete madman, also are you aware that there are actual concentration camps in North Korea?
The UN, not an organisation I'm a fan of, they did a report on them, of course then in typical fashion it seems to have been filed and no action taken.
You can read about North Korea's myriad of concentration camps and also there's a map of them at the below link:
North Korea’s Largest Concentration Camps on Google Earth
Also you can read the words of Oh Gyeung Seob, a research fellow at the Sejong Institute, he spoke at a symposium called “Anti-Human Rights in North Korean Political Prison Camps,” which was hosted by the Korean Peninsula Forum and was sponsored by the Network for North Korean Democracy and Human Rights at the National Human Rights Commission of Korea.
North Korea's Climate of Fear Explained
This is not an and/or situation. "Oh, NK is really bad, but Russia is only a little bad so that is okay."
I'm telling you now, a whole slew of posters in this board would be polishing their firearms, trying to organise demonstrations and calling for Hillary to be tried for treason if the Russians had been shown to try and influence US elections and Trump had lost.
Remember, Trump cosying up to the Russians has nothing to do with them trying to hack. It's all about Trump's ego. He thinks this hacking business somehow deligitimises his election. THAT is what he cares about. Not that a sovereign nation - and traditional enemy - of the US hacked emails and tried to undermine their system. He couldn't give a shit. Unless he lost of course.
True. We can't promise them a good government. But, this isn't the same as Libya - in fact, purposefully so. In Libya, we helped NATO and the local Libyans to wipe out the government without having any replacement. The result was chaos when the locals refused to work together.The USG can't control what will happen in a post Assad Syria. Iraq and Libya demonstrate this completely. And who the fuck do you think you are to determine the fate of foreign nations. Is the right to self determination a foreign concept to you?True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
Cuba, where Trump illegally tried to do business.Every nation has the right for self determination in spite of the agenda of the Global Elite. Interesting to see your accusation of "Russian plant" in order to discredit the author thus the content of the post. You need to stick with polling and statistics or writing prescriptions.
Every nation has a right to self-determination? You mean like Cuba, which the US put under punitive sanctions for 50+ years? Or Chile, who democratically elected Allende and who was overthrown by the CIA-backed Pinochet? That kind of self-determination?
And Russia is not under any kind of self-determination regime at the moment. It is at best a one-party state, at worst a dictatorship.
The Russia plant analogy was almost tongue in cheek...
True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
This is false. ISIS stems from our monkeying in Iraq. ISIS serves the purpose of eliminating Assad, something the US couldn't do on its own. So our allies in the area funded foreign mercenaries to do the job. Your story is the fairy tale the USG wants Americans to believe.True. We can't promise them a good government. But, this isn't the same as Libya - in fact, purposefully so. In Libya, we helped NATO and the local Libyans to wipe out the government without having any replacement. The result was chaos when the locals refused to work together.The USG can't control what will happen in a post Assad Syria. Iraq and Libya demonstrate this completely. And who the fuck do you think you are to determine the fate of foreign nations. Is the right to self determination a foreign concept to you?True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
Syria was a problem, because the acts of Assad provided a major opening for ISIS - an outcome we didn't want to tolerate. Assad had been on our "regime change" list since Bush put them there. But, for the reasons you point out that isn't justification for military action.
But, with the ISIS situation and it's impact on Iraq as well as the rest of the world and with the slaughter of Syrian citizens by Assad, we stopped tolerating Assad and started taking a more proactive policy direction.
Cuba, where Trump illegally tried to do business.Every nation has the right for self determination in spite of the agenda of the Global Elite. Interesting to see your accusation of "Russian plant" in order to discredit the author thus the content of the post. You need to stick with polling and statistics or writing prescriptions.
Every nation has a right to self-determination? You mean like Cuba, which the US put under punitive sanctions for 50+ years? Or Chile, who democratically elected Allende and who was overthrown by the CIA-backed Pinochet? That kind of self-determination?
And Russia is not under any kind of self-determination regime at the moment. It is at best a one-party state, at worst a dictatorship.
The Russia plant analogy was almost tongue in cheek...
Cuba, where the leadership is so old we want an American presence to influence a turn towards democracy.
Only Republicans are turning away from democracy. Now they embrace Russia.
the future must not belong to those who slander the premier of russia.Trump: Only 'stupid' people, fools oppose better Russia ties
Let me get this straight. Putin just hacked the US and conducted one of the most sophisticated espionage attack on this country, all in an effort to elect their chosen candidate....and now we should seek closer ties with the Thug?
The man really does have a mental problem problem.
Assumptions without merit.I'm telling you now, a whole slew of posters in this board would be polishing their firearms, trying to organise demonstrations and calling for Hillary to be tried for treason if the Russians had been shown to try and influence US elections and Trump had lost.
Traditional enemy since when? Times immemorial? Russia was the enemy during the Cold War years where two superpowers were clashing over world domination. Even if and I mean IF Russia hacked the DNC it doesn't mean it was undermining our political system. The DNC is a private organization and so is Sony, yet I have not seen such a screaming and whining when the Sony hack took place. The Global Elite is trying to unleash its pitbull the U.S. to subdue Russia.Remember, Trump cosying up to the Russians has nothing to do with them trying to hack. It's all about Trump's ego. He thinks this hacking business somehow deligitimises his election. THAT is what he cares about. Not that a sovereign nation - and traditional enemy - of the US hacked emails and tried to undermine their system. He couldn't give a shit. Unless he lost of course.
Yes Russia are assisting President Assad's forces in fighting ISIS, the Al-Nusra Front and the so-called "Moderate Rebels" most of whom are affiliated with the Al-Nusra Front.
"Do you know they have nukes?"
China also has nukes, North Korea is working like a team of beavers to get them.
"Do you know that Putin is an egomaniac who is constantly trying to undermine the West either in the UN, openly or surreptitiously via espionage."
Being an egomaniac is neither a threat nor a crime and Russia is doing nothing that either America, China, Britain, France or a variety of other nations is doing and has been doing for decades.
Washington DC under the control of the psychopathic Neo-Conservatives isn't the West's friend, considering it's they who have dragged Western nations into fruitless wars in the Middle East for many years.
According to you Russia is MORE of a threat than ISIS and Islamic Terrorism? Um, okay.
Our assessment was that Assad was NOT going to end the revolution and was NOT going to be able to eliminate ISIS. Assad has sectarian connection with Iran and is radically opposed to the Sunni 80% majority that he has repressed from the time of becoming their leader in 2000 - those he has refused to allow to vote.It would only happen under Assad. Had obama not interfered, Assad would have put that rebellion down and kicked isis out within a week. All those people would still be alive and there would be no refugee crisis.True. Our analysis has been that without Assad being out, Syria isn't going to improve.Our involvement in Syria needs to end. All those people died for nothing but obama's vanity. Unless we are willing to get into a major war with Russia we were never going to win nor was sniffing isis ass going to win.Excellent post.The only thing that explains democrat insanity is the democrats have spent 8 years building up isis in Syria. They have supplied and fed isis and their affiliates. Putin has been fighting isis in Syria. Now, in order to destabilize the United States government since Shaka Zulu is no longer in power, the Democrats have created this myth of the duly elected president working with Russia.
Russia knows this. Trump knows this. The thinking half of the country know this. That is why democrats will not be able to punish the country by starting WWIII.
Under Obama the USG has pressured Russia in every conceivable way to undermine Russia's capability to stop the USG in Syria. Trump threatens to destroy all the hard work.
So, our policy has been to bomb ISIS to keep them from expanding and to work with Russia toward forcing a peaceful transition. Russia started out looking receptive, but then dumped the idea and started bombing Syrian civilians who oppose Assad.
Nobody is going to cause ISIS to be ended by simply bombing Syrian cities flat. They will remain until Syrian citizens are ready to back the Syrian government vs. ISIS. And, that's not going to happen under Assad.
The burr that Assad put up obama's ass is that Assad was a secular leader that protected the Christian minority. No way would little o tolerate that.
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Traditional enemy since when? Times immemorial? Russia was the enemy during the Cold War years where two superpowers were clashing over world domination. Even if and I mean IF Russia hacked the DNC it doesn't mean it was undermining our political system. The DNC is a private organization and so is Sonny, yet I have not seen such a screaming and whining when the Sonny hack took place. The Global Elite is trying to unleash its pitbull the U.S. to subdue Russia.
All this hysteria about Russia and Putin and the American election, again Obama is a hypocrite, it was okay for Obama to interfere in the Israeli election directly to attempt to oust Bibi though wasn't it? Obama actually used American taxpayers money to do this.
Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 12, 2016
"The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.
In one stunning finding, the subcommittee said OneVoice even told the State Department’s top diplomat in Jerusalem of its plans in an email, but the official, Consul General Michael Ratney, claims never to have seen them.
He said he regularly deleted emails with large attachments — a striking violation of open-records laws for a department already reeling from former Secretary Hillary Clinton’s handling of official government records."
Here's the rest of the article:
Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
The below video the duration is ten minutes and twenty one seconds.
Here's another link about the situation.
Israelis think Obama interfering in election, poll finds
In the eyes of the gullible. The DNC buys political votes from the welfare crowd, media giants influence people's decisions. Do not underestimate the power of the media. The moron is you, you just don't see it yet. BTW, it was not the electronics arm of Sony in the reference but Sony Pictures. Maybe you are just too uninformed to realize it.[
Traditional enemy since when? Times immemorial? Russia was the enemy during the Cold War years where two superpowers were clashing over world domination. Even if and I mean IF Russia hacked the DNC it doesn't mean it was undermining our political system. The DNC is a private organization and so is Sonny, yet I have not seen such a screaming and whining when the Sonny hack took place. The Global Elite is trying to unleash its pitbull the U.S. to subdue Russia.
You're a moron. Comparing a political entity like the DNC to a consumer electronics giant - Sony but the way - is pathetic, stupid and idiotic.
