Zone1 Putin warns that sending Western troops to Ukraine risks a global nuclear war - should the west show restraint and force the Ukranians in negotations?

[Oddball]

You seem to understand that America has demanded that no negotiations take place, and then set up the facade' of Zelensky being against negotiations.

Yes, there was a deal ready to be signed at Minsk but the US and UK prevented it from happening.

Why have you decided to start taking part in discussions on this board?

I need neither your approval nor help, snow Meskin.

 

[citygator]

He better hope his nukes are in better shape than his tanks that are in pieces all over Ukraine, his soldiers that are also in pieces all over Ukraine, his ships that are all over the bottom of the Black Sea, and his planes which are ineffective. He’s likely to blow up his own people pushing a button. Would explode in place.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Grounds for assassination

 

[martybegan]

He better hope his nukes are in better shape than his tanks that are in pieces all over Ukraine, his soldiers that are also in pieces all over Ukraine, his ships that are all over the bottom of the Black Sea, and his planes which are ineffective. He’s likely to blow up his own people pushing a button. Would explode in place.

Nuclear warheads can't be armed until they reach a set velocity, depending on if they are a bomb, a cruise missile warhead, or an ICBM. They are usually armed via accelerometers.

 

[citygator]

Nuclear warheads can't be armed until they reach a set velocity, depending on if they are a bomb, a cruise missile warhead, or an ICBM. They are usually armed via accelerometers.

Ship usually float. Russia is getting good at improperly functioning equipment.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ship usually float. Russia is getting good at improperly functioning equipment.

Putin is basically using his soldiers as bullets and missiles.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Putin: If Ukraine joins NATO we will start nuking people
Biden: Hey! Let’s flood corrupt Ukraine with tens of billions of taxpayer money while the US populace is crippled by inflation

Freaking moron.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Putin: If Ukraine joins NATO we will start nuking people
Biden: Hey! Let’s flood corrupt Ukraine with tens of billions of taxpayer money while the US populace is crippled by inflation

Freaking moron.

Normal people don't want the world to capitulate to the genocidal maniac Putin.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Sorry, but no. The support given so far is the only reason they have held on for as long as they have.

Correct, so to stop it now is to give the country to Russia

 

[Dragonlady]

"The west" had a deal on the table before the war started....They told Tenpercentskyy to reject it.

So how are the very people who caused this blood letting supposed to be the ones who broker any further deals?

That wasn't a "deal". That was a complete surrender of the territory Russia was claiming.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How could Ukraine accept a promise from putin not to invade further? Putin already broke that promise twice.

 

[martybegan]

Correct, so to stop it now is to give the country to Russia

The whole country?

 

[Oddball]

That wasn't a "deal". That was a complete surrender of the territory Russia was claiming.

So what's that to you?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The whole country?

Putin wants it all, and then a few more.

Are you good with him getting what he wants?

 

[Dragonlady]

So send in NATO to re-establish the 2014 Ukrainian borders?

Having the Ukrainians asked for troops???? No.

Keep funding and supplying the Ukrainians. They're doing fine on their own.

But stop telling Putin he just has to wait until Trump is re-elected, and start standing with your government and the people of the Ukraine.

 

[martybegan]

Putin wants it all, and then a few more.

Are you good with him getting what he wants?

Of course not. But if the only solution is NATO entering Ukraine and re-establishing the 2014 borders are you up for that?

 

[Dragonlady]

So what's that to you?

Try reading world history, 1933 until the invasion of Poland.

 

[martybegan]

Having the Ukrainians asked for troops???? No.

Keep funding and supplying the Ukrainians. They're doing fine on their own.

But stop telling Putin he just has to wait until Trump is re-elected, and start standing with your government and the people of the Ukraine.

They are stuck in a Stalemate, with no chance to eject Russian forces from Donbas, not even considering the Crimea.

Unless they have 10 or so Divisions in reserve ready to attack.

 

[Orangecat]

Putin warns that sending Western troops to Ukraine risks a global nuclear war - should the west show restraint and force the Ukranians in negotations?​

I'd feel the same if Russia was sending aid and troops to Mexico. MYOFB.

 

[Dragonlady]

They are stuck in a Stalemate, with no chance to eject Russian forces from Donbas, not even considering the Crimea.

Unless they have 10 or so Divisions in reserve ready to attack.

They're stuck in a stalemate because the Ukrainian are out of ammo and Putin is just trying to wait out the election. If Putin were told "no chance". Unlimited weapons and funds until this is over, he'd back down really fucking fast.