Putin: Su-24's Black Box to Reveal Truth About Jet Shot Down by Turkey

[Stratford57]

The Russian bomber never entered Turkish air space. The Russian aircraft was hit by an air-to-air missile from an F-16. The most current long range air-to-air missile for the F-16s is the AIM-120. It's a "fire and forget" missile, so I doubt it has any "self-destruct" capability.

The flight recorder data will provide all the necessary navigation information that will conclusively prove or disprove the air space incursion issue.

Thank you.

Correction... no missile battery crew and chain-of-command was involved.

However, we do not know where the Russian plane was, when the air-to-air missile shot was fired, do we?

We will know exactly where the Russian bomber was at the time of impact and whether it ever crossed into Turkish air space. The location of the Russian bomber at the time of the missile launch can only be extrapolated without additional data.

And, of course, if the Russian jet was within Turkish airspace at the time of the launch, then it was a 'righteous shoot', yes?

It would be a legal shoot, but not at all kosher for countries that are not at war. If that were the case, the Greeks would be shooting down Turkish jets on a daily basis.

But, the Russian bomber never ventured into Turkish air space. The flight data recorder will prove that. That's why they are allowing the British to read and present the data.

3 minute full interview with Russian pilot of SU-24 Konstantin Murakhtin after been rescued. He claims his plane did not violate Turkish airspace:



The Russian pilot rescued after his jet was shot down by Turkey has vowed to keep flying missions as “payback” for his dead colleague.
Captain Konstantin Murakhtin said he would continue flying for Russia over Syria despite Tuesday's ordeal.
He was rescued from a remote forest by Russian special forces overnight on Tuesday after he parachuted to safety out of the stricken jet.
His co-pilot Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov was killed by Syrian rebels.
Now, Captain Murakhtin says he wants to continue flying missions for Russia as "payback" for his colleague.
Speaking to Russian TV, he said he could not wait to return to flying "to pay them back for my commander".
He also said there were no warnings before they were struck out of the sky.
Captain Murakhtin told a Russian TV station that his plane was flying over Syrian territory and did not violate Turkish airspace as the first picture of the pilot emerged on social media.
Speaking for the first timesince the incident, Mr Murakhtin said he knew the region like the back of his hand and "couldn't possibly have flown into Turkish airspace".
Russian jet pilot vows 'payback' for commander killed after plane was shot down

 

[Kondor3]

...Speaking for the first timesince the incident, Mr Murakhtin said he knew the region like the back of his hand and "couldn't possibly have flown into Turkish airspace"...

I think we'll look at the empirical evidence rather than simply take the word of the Accused, thank you very much.

 

[Stratford57]

...Speaking for the first timesince the incident, Mr Murakhtin said he knew the region like the back of his hand and "couldn't possibly have flown into Turkish airspace"...

I think we'll look at the empirical evidence rather than simply take the word of the Accused, thank you very much.

The Russian military have invited experts from 14 nations to work on the flight recorder of the Russian Su-24 bomber downed by Turkey, but only two of them accepted their invitations, the Defense Ministry reported, before unsealing the device. Turkish experts were also invited, but didn't show up.

The experts who agreed to participate in the study of the flight recorder, which is to provide further evidence into the highly controversial incident, come from the UK and China, Lieut. Gen, Sergey Dronov, deputy commander of the Russian Air and Space Forces, told the media.

The unsealing of the flight recorder was performed on camera today, December, 18. Technicians extracted three circuit boards with memory chips, some of which appeared to be damaged. Lieutenant General Sergey Baynetov, who heads the flight safety service of the Russian armed forces, told journalists that investigators would soon inform how much information could be read from the memory chips.

The boards were locked in a safe after extraction. The commission said a preliminary report into their findings may be expected Monday.

Foreign experts, journalists verify unsealing of Turkey-downed Russian Su-24 flight recorder
^ video included

 

[Weatherman2020]

The data from the black box of the downed Russian Su-24 bomber will prove that the aircraft was in Syrian airspace when it was attacked by Turkish forces, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.

Earlier in the day, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu showed Putin the black box, which was recovered in Syria by Russian and Syrian forces.

"As I understand, the flight data recorder will give us the opportunity to understand the Su-24's trajectory from the moment of its take-off to the moment of the crash," Putin said. "This means we will be able to understand where it was [at the moment of the downing] and where the treacherous strike from the Turkish Air Force was dealt."

Putin also said that the black box should be opened only in the presence of international experts.

Putin thanked everyone who participated in the operation to search for and retrieve the black box from Russia's Su-24, which was shot down on November 24 by the Turkish Air Force.

"We must certainly thank our military, the staff of the special forces, search and rescue crews, and Syrian troops for retrieving the recorder, which will certainly help us to understand what happened," Putin said in a meeting with Shoigu.
Putin: Su-24's Black Box to Reveal Truth About Jet Shot Down by Turkey

Britain says it will consider Russia's request for aviation experts to examine data from the black box of a Russian warplane downed over the Turkish-Syria border.

Cameron's office said the two leaders had "agreed that it was important to wait for the investigation to establish what had happened and the prime minister said he would consider President Putin's request to send British experts to assist the investigation."
The Latest: UK to Consider Russian Request for Plane Experts

I seriously doubt Russia puts black boxes in warplanes. They would be the only nation on earth stupid enough to do so.

 

[montelatici]

The data from the black box of the downed Russian Su-24 bomber will prove that the aircraft was in Syrian airspace when it was attacked by Turkish forces, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.

Earlier in the day, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu showed Putin the black box, which was recovered in Syria by Russian and Syrian forces.

"As I understand, the flight data recorder will give us the opportunity to understand the Su-24's trajectory from the moment of its take-off to the moment of the crash," Putin said. "This means we will be able to understand where it was [at the moment of the downing] and where the treacherous strike from the Turkish Air Force was dealt."

Putin also said that the black box should be opened only in the presence of international experts.

Putin thanked everyone who participated in the operation to search for and retrieve the black box from Russia's Su-24, which was shot down on November 24 by the Turkish Air Force.

"We must certainly thank our military, the staff of the special forces, search and rescue crews, and Syrian troops for retrieving the recorder, which will certainly help us to understand what happened," Putin said in a meeting with Shoigu.
Putin: Su-24's Black Box to Reveal Truth About Jet Shot Down by Turkey

Britain says it will consider Russia's request for aviation experts to examine data from the black box of a Russian warplane downed over the Turkish-Syria border.

Cameron's office said the two leaders had "agreed that it was important to wait for the investigation to establish what had happened and the prime minister said he would consider President Putin's request to send British experts to assist the investigation."
The Latest: UK to Consider Russian Request for Plane Experts

I seriously doubt Russia puts black boxes in warplanes. They would be the only nation on earth stupid enough to do so.

Of course warplanes have flight and cockpit voice data recorders. What planet are you from. LOL

Originally F-16s used the Crash Survivable Flight Data Recorder (CSFDR) built by Smiths Industries, for example. They now have a newer higher memory capacity FDR/CVDR.

 

[aris2chat]

russia said black box unreadable.

 

[Bleipriester]

↑ Typical isis2shit bullshit.

Russia says black box most likely readable.

Statement on downed Russian jet black box

"Following Turkey’s aggression in which it downed a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 bomber jet over Syrian territory on 24 November which killed one pilot and a rescue marine, Russian forces recovered the black box of the jet shortly after the fatal attack.

The Russian Defense Ministry has just provided a press conference stating its findings through a broadcast stream on Russia Today.

The chips of the black box are badly damaged, but the information and flight tracking from the microchips are still recoverable. The speakers stated it will still take some time to obtain all the information, but ensured the findings will be released as it comes.


Experts from China, the United Kingdom and the United States will assist in decoding. This is a difficult task as 13 out of 16 chips are destroyed with the other 3 damaged, but 1 most likely still readable.

“The readout of data from memory blocks is impossible at this point due to internal damages. The commission is studying the possibility of using the assistance of Russian specialized scientific institutions, which possess capability of reading data directly from the microchip,” said Lt. Gen. Sergei Bainetov, head of the Defense Ministry’s flight safety department.

International observers praised the transparency of Interstate Aviation Committee investigation into the destroyed bomber jet."

Statement on downed Russian jet black box