Puss President Blames Bush.. Still

[Avatar4321]

Wrong. When Republicans controlled both houses, the Presidency and had a majority in the Supreme Court, the Democrats were in charge of holding things together as best as possible and defeating the screwy Republicans.

In otherwords, you are such a partisan hack that you dont care if anyone acts to benefit the country or uphold its laws. Just as long as they have the right Letter next to their name for party affilliation.

We atleast have the decency to give Obama and the Democrats props when they do something correct. It's not our fault the occaision tends to be rare. We also criticize Republicans when they are wrong, which is much more frequently. I've never seen you once criticize a Democrat.

I will never understand why you dislike limited government and freedom so much.

 

[Article 15]

So what's your point big fella, Democrats came up with allot of needless bills, crazy investigations, took their eye off the ball, turned yellow on Iraq, spent their time undermining Bush, what?

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

 

[Lumpy 1]

So what's your point big fella, Democrats came up with allot of needless bills, crazy investigations, took their eye off the ball, turned yellow on Iraq, spent their time undermining Bush, what?

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

Honestly I don't see how closure tells whole story either. After all they spent allot of time naming parks, schools and other BS.

 

[Article 15]

So what's your point big fella, Democrats came up with allot of needless bills, crazy investigations, took their eye off the ball, turned yellow on Iraq, spent their time undermining Bush, what?

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[Lumpy 1]

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Perhaps I'm not thinking clearly enough at the moment, I'm pooped and off to bed.. I will say, you seem to have the edge at the moment. Good Night

 

[Article 15]

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Perhaps I'm not thinking clearly enough at the moment, I'm pooped and off to bed.. I will say, you seem to have the edge at the moment. Good Night

S'all good. G'night.

 

[Si modo]

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

One word - cloture. The Dems have all the power to use it. If they can't get their act together to use it, then they can blame themselves as they have the power.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

The point, lil guy, is that you were incorrect to call the Dems the "party of no" back when they were in the minority. And as you can the see the GOP owns that moniker as they have been filibustering at a record pace since the second they lost power.

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

as a caveat to this...if you'll notice the Republicans were ALWAYS including the Democrats in most every bill that was passed while they were in the majority....the Democrats on the other hand have been saying "Fuck you, we won...deal with it." What sort of reaction did you expect from the Reps? Of course they were going to filibuster....when you have your voice and influence completely removed from the legislative process one must use the tools at hand to regain that say....the Reps only choice was the filibuster....and that's how Nancy Pelosi and Reid WANTED THE GAME PLAYED because it fell right in line with their strategy to take a filibuster proof Senate in 2008. Brilliant political warfare. They coined the term..."the party of no." and it was all planned out.

 

[Article 15]

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What is all this whining? One word - cloture. The Dems have all the power to use it. If they can't get their act together to use it, then they can blame themselves as they have the power.

What's with you and thinking everything is "whining?"

If you followed the flow of conversation you would see that all I did was refute Lumpy's statement that the Dems were the "party of no" back during the Bush administration.

Sheesh ...

And you can't get cloture without 60 votes which the Dem don't have.

 

[Si modo]

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What is all this whining? One word - cloture. The Dems have all the power to use it. If they can't get their act together to use it, then they can blame themselves as they have the power.

What's with you and thinking everything is "whining?"

If you followed the flow of conversation you would see that all I did was refute Lumpy's statement that the Dems were the "party of no" back during the Bush administration.

Sheesh ...

And you can't get cloture without 60 votes which the Dem don't have.

[I edited out the whining as I suspected that you might take it personally when it was meant for the congresscritters. I was right.]

Yes, the Dems have complete cloture power - 58 members and two independents who formally caucus with the Dems. So, the Dems DO have the power.

If they can't get their act together to use it, then only THEY are to blame.

 

[Article 15]

Well just fella, this chart only goes to 2008, the Democratic party took over in early 2007 so how do you arrive at your conclusions? I might add that the last 2 years of the Bush Presidency pretty well screwed him.

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

as a caveat to this...if you'll notice the Republicans were ALWAYS including the Democrats in most every bill that was passed while they were in the majority....the Democrats on the other hand have been saying "Fuck you, we won...deal with it." What sort of reaction did you expect from the Reps? Of course they were going to filibuster....when you have your voice and influence completely removed from the legislative process one must use the tools at hand to regain that say....the Reps only choice was the filibuster....and that's how Nancy Pelosi and Reid WANTED THE GAME PLAYED because it fell right in line with their strategy to take a filibuster proof Senate in 2008. Brilliant political warfare. They coined the term..."the party of no." and it was all planned out.

Pelosi and Reid and morons. Filibustering for a reason I'm fine with, filibustering because of butthurt I'm not.

Shit man, we even had a GOP Senator come out yesterday and say the Reps will vote now in lock step against the Senate health care bill that made concessions by taking out the public option so even when the dems do give some they get "fuck you" thrown back in their faces.

So it seems like "fuck you" is pretty much the attitude both parties have taken towards each other.

 

[Article 15]

What is all this whining? One word - cloture. The Dems have all the power to use it. If they can't get their act together to use it, then they can blame themselves as they have the power.

What's with you and thinking everything is "whining?"

If you followed the flow of conversation you would see that all I did was refute Lumpy's statement that the Dems were the "party of no" back during the Bush administration.

Sheesh ...

And you can't get cloture without 60 votes which the Dem don't have.

[I edited out the whining as I suspected that you might take it personally when it was meant for the congresscritters. I was right.]

Yes, the Dems have complete cloture power - 58 members and two independents who formally caucus with the Dems. So, the Dems DO have the power.

If they can't get their act together to use it, then only THEY are to blame.

No, they don't. Joe Lieberman has made it very clear that he isn't loyal to the Dems and that he will support GOP filibusters.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

1.) The chart shows that the Dems hardly used the filibuster for the majority of Bush's time in office especially when compared to how frequently the GOP used in once in the minority.

2.) The number of filibusters skyrocketed from 2007 on and in case you missed is the filibuster has been the GOPs favorite tool for all of 2009.

You really can't sit there with a straight face and try to dispute that. The GOP is the party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

as a caveat to this...if you'll notice the Republicans were ALWAYS including the Democrats in most every bill that was passed while they were in the majority....the Democrats on the other hand have been saying "Fuck you, we won...deal with it." What sort of reaction did you expect from the Reps? Of course they were going to filibuster....when you have your voice and influence completely removed from the legislative process one must use the tools at hand to regain that say....the Reps only choice was the filibuster....and that's how Nancy Pelosi and Reid WANTED THE GAME PLAYED because it fell right in line with their strategy to take a filibuster proof Senate in 2008. Brilliant political warfare. They coined the term..."the party of no." and it was all planned out.

Pelosi and Reid and morons. Filibustering for a reason I'm fine with, filibustering because of butthurt I'm not.

Shit man, we even had a GOP Senator come out yesterday and say the Reps will vote now in lock step against the Senate health care bill that made concessions by taking out the public option so even when the dems do give some they get "fuck you" thrown back in their faces.

So it seems like "fuck you" is pretty much the attitude both parties have taken towards each other.

There were Dem votes of no if there was a public option in the healthcare bill...remember..all we've been hearing the last few days is "secret meetings behind closed doors with DEMOCRAT Senators who aren't in lockstep with reid and Pelosi...but you are in fact correct about this one thing....

So it seems like "fuck you" is pretty much the attitude both parties have taken towards each other

and that's a sad testament to what our government has become when the leftwing loon moonbats and the right wing neocon nutters take over the reins of power.

 

[Si modo]

What's with you and thinking everything is "whining?"

If you followed the flow of conversation you would see that all I did was refute Lumpy's statement that the Dems were the "party of no" back during the Bush administration.

Sheesh ...

And you can't get cloture without 60 votes which the Dem don't have.

[I edited out the whining as I suspected that you might take it personally when it was meant for the congresscritters. I was right.]

Yes, the Dems have complete cloture power - 58 members and two independents who formally caucus with the Dems. So, the Dems DO have the power.

If they can't get their act together to use it, then only THEY are to blame.

No, they don't. Joe Lieberman has made it very clear that he isn't loyal to the Dems and that he will support GOP filibusters.

Joe Lieberman formally caucuses with the Dems. That is a fact of record. The other independent is a socialist who also formally caucuses with the Dems - another fact of record.

 

[Article 15]

[I edited out the whining as I suspected that you might take it personally when it was meant for the congresscritters. I was right.]

Yes, the Dems have complete cloture power - 58 members and two independents who formally caucus with the Dems. So, the Dems DO have the power.

If they can't get their act together to use it, then only THEY are to blame.

No, they don't. Joe Lieberman has made it very clear that he isn't loyal to the Dems and that he will support GOP filibusters.

Joe Lieberman formally caucuses with the Dems. That is a fact of record. The other independent is a socialist who also formally caucuses with the Dems - another fact of record.

The other Senator is Bernie Sanders and I know the facts on record. I also know for a fact that Lieberman has said that he will join GOP filibusters. So again, no, they don't have the votes.

 

[Article 15]

as a caveat to this...if you'll notice the Republicans were ALWAYS including the Democrats in most every bill that was passed while they were in the majority....the Democrats on the other hand have been saying "Fuck you, we won...deal with it." What sort of reaction did you expect from the Reps? Of course they were going to filibuster....when you have your voice and influence completely removed from the legislative process one must use the tools at hand to regain that say....the Reps only choice was the filibuster....and that's how Nancy Pelosi and Reid WANTED THE GAME PLAYED because it fell right in line with their strategy to take a filibuster proof Senate in 2008. Brilliant political warfare. They coined the term..."the party of no." and it was all planned out.

Pelosi and Reid and morons. Filibustering for a reason I'm fine with, filibustering because of butthurt I'm not.

Shit man, we even had a GOP Senator come out yesterday and say the Reps will vote now in lock step against the Senate health care bill that made concessions by taking out the public option so even when the dems do give some they get "fuck you" thrown back in their faces.

So it seems like "fuck you" is pretty much the attitude both parties have taken towards each other.

There were Dem votes of no if there was a public option in the healthcare bill...remember..all we've been hearing the last few days is "secret meetings behind closed doors with DEMOCRAT Senators who aren't in lockstep with reid and Pelosi...but you are in fact correct about this one thing....

So it seems like "fuck you" is pretty much the attitude both parties have taken towards each other

and that's a sad testament to what our government has become when the leftwing loon moonbats and the right wing neocon nutters take over the reins of power.

Harry Reid losing his seat and somebody like Jim Webb becoming majority leader in the Senate is one of the best things that can happen to this country in the 2010 elections.

 

[Si modo]

No, they don't. Joe Lieberman has made it very clear that he isn't loyal to the Dems and that he will support GOP filibusters.

Joe Lieberman formally caucuses with the Dems. That is a fact of record. The other independent is a socialist who also formally caucuses with the Dems - another fact of record.

The other Senator is Bernie Sanders and I know the facts on record. I also know for a fact that Lieberman has said that he will join GOP filibusters. So again, no, they don't have the votes.

Lieberman is in favor of a healthcare bill but will join the filibuster if the bill contains the public option and it does. This is nothing new to the Dems. They did not get blindsided by Lieberman on that. Perhaps the Dems should have thought this out a bit better and listened to the other party who said no public option.

Thank goodness that we aren't s single-party state - yet.

 

[Article 15]

Joe Lieberman formally caucuses with the Dems. That is a fact of record. The other independent is a socialist who also formally caucuses with the Dems - another fact of record.

The other Senator is Bernie Sanders and I know the facts on record. I also know for a fact that Lieberman has said that he will join GOP filibusters. So again, no, they don't have the votes.

Lieberman is in favor of a healthcare bill but will join the filibuster if the bill contains the public option and it does. This is nothing new to the Dems. They did not get blindsided by Lieberman on that. Perhaps the Dems should have thought this out a bit better and listened to the other party who said no public option.

Thank goodness that we aren't s single-party state - yet.

So you agree that the Dems don't have the votes for cloture. Thank you.

 

[Si modo]

The other Senator is Bernie Sanders and I know the facts on record. I also know for a fact that Lieberman has said that he will join GOP filibusters. So again, no, they don't have the votes.

Lieberman is in favor of a healthcare bill but will join the filibuster if the bill contains the public option and it does. This is nothing new to the Dems. They did not get blindsided by Lieberman on that. Perhaps the Dems should have thought this out a bit better and listened to the other party who said no public option.

Thank goodness that we aren't s single-party state - yet.

So you agree that the Dems don't have the votes for cloture. Thank you.

Not at all. They do - a fact of record. However, on this bill - since the Dems included the public option, they were given fair warning that one of the two independents whom they depend on for that power of cloture would not support it.

It sucks when cockiness comes back to bite one in the ass.

 

[JW Frogen]

It sucks when cockiness comes back to bite one in the ass.

True, my cock has made me an ass more times than I care to contemplate.

Still, we can not part.