Pulitzer Prize Journalist:The Osama binLaden raid was a work of fiction, Hussein Obama should resign

[Esmeralda]

Pakistan s former ambassador to the US at the time of the bin Laden raid tells a VERY different story than Seymour Hersh - Yahoo Maktoob News

Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US at the time of the bin Laden raid tells a VERY different story than Seymour Hersh

This story, Haqqani alleges, "borders on fantasy," since in the former ambassador's view, Hersh offers no viable explanation for why Pakistan's generals would go along with the raid without wanting some kind of credit for their role.

 

[kaz]

Wow, you would know. Obama is black and you're black. Don't need any support for that statement of "fact"

Wow, you can't debate so you have to play the race card.................sad.

Set up, like a bowling pin...

LOL, I did that for my own amusement. Do you remember our first ever exchange? You called me a racist for opposing Obama, the issue discussed was nothing to do with race. Then when I said you were stupid, you said OMG, I really am a racist. Prove I'm not. I said I'm not doing that, you're stupid. You concluded that wow, you started off by kidding, but I am a racist.

We've had better exchanges since then, but this time I had to let you walk into the glass door, just for fun. Mission accomplished...

For the record, Obama is mixed race and so am I. You can't even get that fact straight.

Those facts are immaterial to race baiters like you and Obama

No I don't remember, please provide the post/posts you are referring to. LOL, that's some fantasy you have or you definitely have me mixed up with someone else. The only "mission accomplished" you had was deviating from the subject we were discussing/debating. I don't blame you though..............

Pass. I pointed out what you were doing that the time, you didn't man up to it then either. You race flame, you show what you are

So basically you are full of shit and want to run with some unsubstantiated bullshit. Great form!

Man up, Nancy. When you grow a pair and can own up to your own actions, get back to me

 

[Political Junky]

This demon should resign immediately (or be impeached) and then be put before Jury.

This is the same reporter that exposed Bush's overseas torture! Shall we let yet another tyrant escape impeachment and conviction?

Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has uncovered one of the biggest lies in modern American history

Seymour M. Hersh The Killing of Osama bin Laden LRB 21 May 2015

Here are the MSM talking points from CNN defending the Dear Leader Obama:
Was there a cover-up in bin Laden killing Opinion - CNN.com

There is so much more in Hersh’s article, and you can read the rest of it right here. The following is how Business Insider summarized some of the main points…

• 
  
  
  • The White House’s “most blatant” lie was that Pakistan’s two most senior military officials were never informed of the mission, Hersh says.
  • While US officials say they found bin Laden by tracking his trusted courier, Hersh says they discovered his whereabouts from a former Pakistani intelligence officer who wanted the $25 million reward the US was offering.
  • The government claimed bin Laden was hiding out, but Hersh says the Pakistani intelligence agency had actually been holding him captive since 2006 to use him as leverage against Taliban and Al Qaeda activities in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  • While the White House has said it would have taken bin Laden alive if it could have and that he was killed in a firefight, Hersh says that wasn’t the case. “There was no firefight as they moved into the compound; the ISI guards had gone,” Hersh wrote.
  • The article also takes issue with the White House’s claim that bin Laden was buried at sea in aservice that followed Islamic practices. “The remains, including his head, which had only a few bullet holes in it, were thrown into a body bag and, during the helicopter flight back to Jalalabad, some body parts were tossed out over the Hindu Kush mountains — or so the Seals claimed,” Hersh reported, citing his senior US intelligence official.

[qte]
It turns out that much of what the American public was told about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden was a blatant lie.

According to Hersh, Osama bin Laden had been captured by Pakistan all the way back in 2006, and he was being held by the ISI as a prisoner at the Abbottabad compound that the Seals ultimately raided in 2011. In addition, Hersh says that the ISI and Pakistan’s military knew about the Seal raid in advance. Arrangements were made so that the Black Hawk helicopters could travel through Pakistani airspace safely, and the ISI guards at Osama bin Laden’s compound were pulled away before the Seals got there. And by that time, Osama bin Laden was reportedly in such bad health that he was essentially a cripple. There was no “firefight” at all – only a turkey shoot. Afterwards, Osama bin Laden’s body never made it to the USS Carl Vinson for a “burial at sea”. That was all just part of the cover story according to Hersh. Of course the White House and Obama’s lackeys at CNN are strongly denying all of this, and they will continue to deny the truth for as long as they possibly can. But there are individuals in the U.S. military and in the U.S. intelligence community that can come forward and tell us what really happened. Let us hope that at least some of those individuals still care enough about this country to do that.

Here is more from Hersh…

At the Abbottabad compound ISI guards were posted around the clock to keep watch over bin Laden and his wives and children. They were under orders to leave as soon as they heard the rotors of the US helicopters. The town was dark: the electricity supply had been cut off on the orders of the ISI hours before the raid began. One of the Black Hawks crashed inside the walls of the compound, injuring many on board. ‘The guys knew the TOT [time on target] had to be tight because they would wake up the whole town going in,’ the retired official said. The cockpit of the crashed Black Hawk, with its communication and navigational gear, had to be destroyed by concussion grenades, and this would create a series of explosions and a fire visible for miles. Two Chinook helicopters had flown from Afghanistan to a nearby Pakistani intelligence base to provide logistical support, and one of them was immediately dispatched to Abbottabad. But because the helicopter had been equipped with a bladder loaded with extra fuel for the two Black Hawks, it first had to be reconfigured as a troop carrier. The crash of the Black Hawk and the need to fly in a replacement were nerve-wracking and time-consuming setbacks, but the Seals continued with their mission. There was no firefight as they moved into the compound; the ISI guards had gone. ‘Everyone in Pakistan has a gun and high-profile, wealthy folks like those who live in Abbottabad have armed bodyguards, and yet there were no weapons in the compound,’ the retired official pointed out. Had there been any opposition, the team would have been highly vulnerable. Instead, the retired official said, an ISI liaison officer flying with the Seals guided them into the darkened house and up a staircase to bin Laden’s quarters. The Seals had been warned by the Pakistanis that heavy steel doors blocked the stairwell on the first and second-floor landings; bin Laden’s rooms were on the third floor. The Seal squad used explosives to blow the doors open, without injuring anyone. One of bin Laden’s wives was screaming hysterically and a bullet – perhaps a stray round – struck her knee. Aside from those that hit bin Laden, no other shots were fired. (The Obama administration’s account would hold otherwise.)

After the raid, Obama was never supposed to go public with what had happened. Instead, about a week later a cover story about how bin Laden had been killed in a drone strike was supposed to be released to the public. Obama betrayed the Pakistanis for his own political gain. And the highly touted “burial at sea” of bin Laden never took place either…

The Bin Laden Raid Was A Work Of Fiction And Barack Obama Should Immediately Resign Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind [/QUOTE]
The Right has belittled the Pulitzer Prize as well all Seymour Hersh in the past. Now there's a sudden respect for both. Weird.

 

[Derideo_Te]

This demon should resign immediately (or be impeached) and then be put before Jury.

This is the same reporter that exposed Bush's overseas torture! Shall we let yet another tyrant escape impeachment and conviction?

Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has uncovered one of the biggest lies in modern American history

Seymour M. Hersh The Killing of Osama bin Laden LRB 21 May 2015

Here are the MSM talking points from CNN defending the Dear Leader Obama:
Was there a cover-up in bin Laden killing Opinion - CNN.com

There is so much more in Hersh’s article, and you can read the rest of it right here. The following is how Business Insider summarized some of the main points…

• 
  
  
  • The White House’s “most blatant” lie was that Pakistan’s two most senior military officials were never informed of the mission, Hersh says.
  • While US officials say they found bin Laden by tracking his trusted courier, Hersh says they discovered his whereabouts from a former Pakistani intelligence officer who wanted the $25 million reward the US was offering.
  • The government claimed bin Laden was hiding out, but Hersh says the Pakistani intelligence agency had actually been holding him captive since 2006 to use him as leverage against Taliban and Al Qaeda activities in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  • While the White House has said it would have taken bin Laden alive if it could have and that he was killed in a firefight, Hersh says that wasn’t the case. “There was no firefight as they moved into the compound; the ISI guards had gone,” Hersh wrote.
  • The article also takes issue with the White House’s claim that bin Laden was buried at sea in aservice that followed Islamic practices. “The remains, including his head, which had only a few bullet holes in it, were thrown into a body bag and, during the helicopter flight back to Jalalabad, some body parts were tossed out over the Hindu Kush mountains — or so the Seals claimed,” Hersh reported, citing his senior US intelligence official.

[qte]
It turns out that much of what the American public was told about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden was a blatant lie.

According to Hersh, Osama bin Laden had been captured by Pakistan all the way back in 2006, and he was being held by the ISI as a prisoner at the Abbottabad compound that the Seals ultimately raided in 2011. In addition, Hersh says that the ISI and Pakistan’s military knew about the Seal raid in advance. Arrangements were made so that the Black Hawk helicopters could travel through Pakistani airspace safely, and the ISI guards at Osama bin Laden’s compound were pulled away before the Seals got there. And by that time, Osama bin Laden was reportedly in such bad health that he was essentially a cripple. There was no “firefight” at all – only a turkey shoot. Afterwards, Osama bin Laden’s body never made it to the USS Carl Vinson for a “burial at sea”. That was all just part of the cover story according to Hersh. Of course the White House and Obama’s lackeys at CNN are strongly denying all of this, and they will continue to deny the truth for as long as they possibly can. But there are individuals in the U.S. military and in the U.S. intelligence community that can come forward and tell us what really happened. Let us hope that at least some of those individuals still care enough about this country to do that.

Here is more from Hersh…

At the Abbottabad compound ISI guards were posted around the clock to keep watch over bin Laden and his wives and children. They were under orders to leave as soon as they heard the rotors of the US helicopters. The town was dark: the electricity supply had been cut off on the orders of the ISI hours before the raid began. One of the Black Hawks crashed inside the walls of the compound, injuring many on board. ‘The guys knew the TOT [time on target] had to be tight because they would wake up the whole town going in,’ the retired official said. The cockpit of the crashed Black Hawk, with its communication and navigational gear, had to be destroyed by concussion grenades, and this would create a series of explosions and a fire visible for miles. Two Chinook helicopters had flown from Afghanistan to a nearby Pakistani intelligence base to provide logistical support, and one of them was immediately dispatched to Abbottabad. But because the helicopter had been equipped with a bladder loaded with extra fuel for the two Black Hawks, it first had to be reconfigured as a troop carrier. The crash of the Black Hawk and the need to fly in a replacement were nerve-wracking and time-consuming setbacks, but the Seals continued with their mission. There was no firefight as they moved into the compound; the ISI guards had gone. ‘Everyone in Pakistan has a gun and high-profile, wealthy folks like those who live in Abbottabad have armed bodyguards, and yet there were no weapons in the compound,’ the retired official pointed out. Had there been any opposition, the team would have been highly vulnerable. Instead, the retired official said, an ISI liaison officer flying with the Seals guided them into the darkened house and up a staircase to bin Laden’s quarters. The Seals had been warned by the Pakistanis that heavy steel doors blocked the stairwell on the first and second-floor landings; bin Laden’s rooms were on the third floor. The Seal squad used explosives to blow the doors open, without injuring anyone. One of bin Laden’s wives was screaming hysterically and a bullet – perhaps a stray round – struck her knee. Aside from those that hit bin Laden, no other shots were fired. (The Obama administration’s account would hold otherwise.)

After the raid, Obama was never supposed to go public with what had happened. Instead, about a week later a cover story about how bin Laden had been killed in a drone strike was supposed to be released to the public. Obama betrayed the Pakistanis for his own political gain. And the highly touted “burial at sea” of bin Laden never took place either…

The Bin Laden Raid Was A Work Of Fiction And Barack Obama Should Immediately Resign Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind

The Right has belittled the Pulitzer Prize as well all Seymour Hersh in the past. Now there's a sudden respect for both. Weird.[/QUOTE]

Hersh will make lots of money off of the gullible who will buy his book.

 

[Pheonixops]

Wow, you can't debate so you have to play the race card.................sad.

Set up, like a bowling pin...

LOL, I did that for my own amusement. Do you remember our first ever exchange? You called me a racist for opposing Obama, the issue discussed was nothing to do with race. Then when I said you were stupid, you said OMG, I really am a racist. Prove I'm not. I said I'm not doing that, you're stupid. You concluded that wow, you started off by kidding, but I am a racist.

We've had better exchanges since then, but this time I had to let you walk into the glass door, just for fun. Mission accomplished...

For the record, Obama is mixed race and so am I. You can't even get that fact straight.

Those facts are immaterial to race baiters like you and Obama

No I don't remember, please provide the post/posts you are referring to. LOL, that's some fantasy you have or you definitely have me mixed up with someone else. The only "mission accomplished" you had was deviating from the subject we were discussing/debating. I don't blame you though..............

Pass. I pointed out what you were doing that the time, you didn't man up to it then either. You race flame, you show what you are

So basically you are full of shit and want to run with some unsubstantiated bullshit. Great form!

Man up, Nancy. When you grow a pair and can own up to your own actions, get back to me

LOL, you telling me to man up when you can't "man up" yourself and back your half assed claim up. Thanks for the laugh Nancy!

This bears repeating:
"So basically you are full of shit and want to run with some unsubstantiated bullshit. Great form! "

 

[kaz]

Set up, like a bowling pin...

LOL, I did that for my own amusement. Do you remember our first ever exchange? You called me a racist for opposing Obama, the issue discussed was nothing to do with race. Then when I said you were stupid, you said OMG, I really am a racist. Prove I'm not. I said I'm not doing that, you're stupid. You concluded that wow, you started off by kidding, but I am a racist.

We've had better exchanges since then, but this time I had to let you walk into the glass door, just for fun. Mission accomplished...

Those facts are immaterial to race baiters like you and Obama

No I don't remember, please provide the post/posts you are referring to. LOL, that's some fantasy you have or you definitely have me mixed up with someone else. The only "mission accomplished" you had was deviating from the subject we were discussing/debating. I don't blame you though..............

Pass. I pointed out what you were doing that the time, you didn't man up to it then either. You race flame, you show what you are

So basically you are full of shit and want to run with some unsubstantiated bullshit. Great form!

Man up, Nancy. When you grow a pair and can own up to your own actions, get back to me

LOL, you telling me to man up when you can't "man up" yourself and back your half assed claim up. Thanks for the laugh Nancy!

This bears repeating:
"So basically you are full of shit and want to run with some unsubstantiated bullshit. Great form! "

You and I discussed it at the time. I pointed out what you were doing and you admitted it and stood behind it. You said you wanted me to prove I wasn't racist because I didn't do it the first time you told me to. If you don't have a long term memory, I'm not going to play 50 first dates with you