Private Sector Workers Need To Sacrifice

and no tax dollars go to private union ? they get no kick backs from the government ? And a privilege few benefit from thees deals. Take GM, an already inferior union product . they assemble there product in Mexico. They are responsible for jobs going over seas to Chinese prisoners whose only motivation is a gun in there ear. Go Union. They are destroying the country I live in so it is my bees wax.

unions did not kill GM, GM management killed GM by not producing the products that consumers demand, the union workers had nothing at all to do with that....lousy GM management did....the non union bosses at the top made the bad decisions.

and as I have also said, GM management agreed to the benefits, while in negotiations....this is GM'S FAULT, not the unions for asking.

Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.



That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?

Most of them were suspended. Later went back to work.........A few of them however, were caught in a crack house just last month......Wonder if the union will still try and protect them this time.
 
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i think 35% flat rate on repatriation of money is outrageous! but I am uncertain 35% is the effective rate, even on repatriation.

I don't see avoiding taxes through loopholes as patriotic...I see it putting the burden of taxes on all of us left in the usa paying our taxes, who can not just pick up and move ourselves or redesignate ourselves to a PO box in bermuda.


It is. This is why the U.S. has tax treaties with countries around the world and corporations set up shells in places like Bermuda.
 
unions did not kill GM, GM management killed GM by not producing the products that consumers demand, the union workers had nothing at all to do with that....lousy GM management did....the non union bosses at the top made the bad decisions.

and as I have also said, GM management agreed to the benefits, while in negotiations....this is GM'S FAULT, not the unions for asking.

Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.



That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?

Most of them were suspended. Later went back to work.........A few of them however, were caught in a crack house just last month......Wonder if the union will still try and protect them this time.


out of curiosity folks, what would your job do to you if you were caught doing this, and would they pay your unemployment when they fired your ass ?
 
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This is a good scenerio, but it would be helpful if these workers actually made something tangible that is ultimately sold to someone else. I mean, if we have more workers whose sole function is to sell a service, or a product that is imported- how does it actually add to the GDP?

Funny, insurance companies are "middle men". They own no hospitals, employ no doctors or nurses. They set up "bookings" and skim billions off insurance policies. How many policies does it take to pay for a single 120 million dollar paycheck to the CEO of Cigna?

The only thing they make is "money".
 
:clap2: Excellent. Evading taxes is patriotic.


I'm not referring to the corporate tax rate, the 35% is a tax just to repatriate the money. You have to think about that and think it's idiotic to tax companies for bringing money back overseas into the US, which would clearly benefit our economy. And again, we are the ONLY country that does that. We have in ways started to out socialist the euroweenies. Our corporate tax rate isn't #1 in the western world, but it's near the top.

You can argue "fairness" in taxing corporations and I'll disagree with you. But unless there is a universally accepted definition of fair it's your right. But you cannot argue that corporate taxes are not job killers, because that's just fact.



The corporate tax rate isn't helping the economy. The U.S. has an effective tax rate that is more nearly double the average for OECD countries.

This bulletin presents estimates of effective corporate tax rates on new capital investment for 83 countries. “Effective” tax rates take into account statutory rates plus tax-base items that affect taxes paid on new investment, such as depreciation deductions, inventory allowances, and interest deductions. Our calculations also account for other taxes that affect investment, such as retail sales taxes on capital purchases and asset-based taxes.

We find that the U.S. effective corporate tax rate on new investment was 34.6% in 2010, which was the highest rate in the OECD and the fifth-highest rate among 83 countries. The average OECD rate was 18.6%, and the average rate for 83 countries was 17.7%.


TaxProf Blog: U.S. Effective Corporate Tax Rate Among Highest in World

What was exxonmobile's federal effective tax rate? What was GM's federal effective tax rate, what was Walmart's? I would BET 10 bucks that none of the above came even close to the 35% federal effective rate.....

we are talking Federal corporate taxes are we not?


Here, look for yourself:

XOM Income Statement | Exxon Mobil Corporation Common Stock - Yahoo! Finance


Exxon had $35B in operating profit in 2009, and incurred $15B in income tax expense. That's a ratio of 42% - even after all the tax breaks the leftwing is constantly deriding.
 
i think 35% flat rate on repatriation of money is outrageous! but I am uncertain 35% is the effective rate, even on repatriation.

I don't see avoiding taxes through loopholes as patriotic...I see it putting the burden of taxes on all of us left in the usa paying our taxes, who can not just pick up and move ourselves or redesignate ourselves to a PO box in bermuda.
Repatriation is a flat rate. The marginal rate is the same as the rate. There are no deductions like the Corporate rate. That is why when Bush temporarily lowered the rate to 5% as I mentioned more dollars were paid in repatriation then are ever paid with the 35% rate. There are trillions overseas, much of that are parked in low interest vehicles because it's not worth a 35% hit. The rate of every other country to repatriate money is...0%. It's completely insane to block companies from bringing money into the US. There was a lengthy article in the Wall Street Journal about that recently.

There is nothing patriotic about willingly funding our oppressive government and ever increasing power thirsty government. They use the money to just further oppress us. I applaud tax cheats. I admit I don't cheat because I'm too big a coward. But I certainly take advantage of every legitimate deduction. There is no such thing as a "loophole." If you can deduct it legally, you take it.

If you really care about this, a great book for you to read could be by Charles Adams, "For Good and Evil: The Impact of Taxes on the Course of Civilization."
 
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and no tax dollars go to private union ? they get no kick backs from the government ? And a privilege few benefit from thees deals. Take GM, an already inferior union product . they assemble there product in Mexico. They are responsible for jobs going over seas to Chinese prisoners whose only motivation is a gun in there ear. Go Union. They are destroying the country I live in so it is my bees wax.

unions did not kill GM, GM management killed GM by not producing the products that consumers demand, the union workers had nothing at all to do with that....lousy GM management did....the non union bosses at the top made the bad decisions.

and as I have also said, GM management agreed to the benefits, while in negotiations....this is GM'S FAULT, not the unions for asking.

Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.



That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?


Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?
 
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unions did not kill GM, GM management killed GM by not producing the products that consumers demand, the union workers had nothing at all to do with that....lousy GM management did....the non union bosses at the top made the bad decisions.

and as I have also said, GM management agreed to the benefits, while in negotiations....this is GM'S FAULT, not the unions for asking.

Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.



That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?


Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?



Wait so you are upset that the trait of one Union members are being applied to all Union members?

Funny you seem to have no problem applying the traits of Some Extreme right, Christian Conservative. To all Conservatives. I guess you care about fairness when were talking about your side, just not with anyone else.

That about right? Deany old pal? Typical of assholes is right, and you are the king of them all.
 
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unions did not kill GM, GM management killed GM by not producing the products that consumers demand, the union workers had nothing at all to do with that....lousy GM management did....the non union bosses at the top made the bad decisions.

and as I have also said, GM management agreed to the benefits, while in negotiations....this is GM'S FAULT, not the unions for asking.

Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.



That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?


Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?


What union are you in ? What ever one it is you are probably a typical union member or 99 weeker/ welfare case.

On any other job you get random drug test. You fail your ass is fired. Unions protect there drug addicts and drunks so they can get the dues for the Democratic party as well as Tax money.

I will lay out the typical republican for you, They are a brain washed bunch, but one I will relate to 99% of the time because they will work hard to get what they instead if collecting free money like a union member.

And if its slander, sue me or what ever. My profile is accurate.
 
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Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-frkbduKw5E

That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?

Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?

Wait so you are upset that the trait of one Union members are being applied to all Union members?.

Any chance you are not telling a fairy-tale and have proof?

Here is the typical private worker trait.

 
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Typical private worker copying his ass.

 
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The Typical Private Sector worker does not copy his or her ass.
 
Typical private worker copying his ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZYQXTRZjG4

Does it say what happened to him for copying his ass ? I vaguely remember hearing this guy got fired ? What if he were a union member ? what would happen then ?

btw, the union workers got fired....did you know that?

When ? And what of there benefits ? I knew a guy who was a member of the sheet metal workers union. He worked for American water heater in Johnson City Tennessee. This guy also liked to get fucked up at lunch time. You know, little meth, little weed and a beer or two. He runs his hand into a sheet metal sheer and screws his hand up. it took eight months to fire his ass because it had to go threw the union. Union dregs and my disgust with them got me to ware I am today. I right my own pay check, I pay my own bills, I work out of my house and I dont have to look for a hand out from the DNC, my money wont fund Democrat Political hacks and I dont have to worry about dope fiends and drunks costing me money or killing me because they came to work all fucked up, or paying the useless free loaders when they maim them selves at work.

And all but two were fired. Doesn't matter any way because its a dead brand any how that the unions killed. Thats just my opinion.

Kathy Griffin slammed for Scott Brown remarks - USATODAY.com
 
Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-frkbduKw5E

That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?

Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?


Wait so you are upset that the trait of one Union members are being applied to all Union members?

Funny you seem to have no problem applying the traits of Some Extreme right, Christian Conservative. To all Conservatives. I guess you care about fairness when were talking about your side, just not with anyone else.

That about right? Deany old pal? Typical of assholes is right, and you are the king of them all.

Except I have never said "ALL" conservatives, never, not once. Oops.
 
Low quality worker manufacturing low quality parts and assembled by cheap labor in Mexico equals a shitty product and a government bailout . And a good deal of the bail out went to union slobs. Your tax dollars hard at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-frkbduKw5E

That is your typical union member. If that happened at a non union job there asses would have been fired at the door when they came back. Wonder what happened to them?

Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?

What union are you in ? What ever one it is you are probably a typical union member or 99 weeker/ welfare case.

On any other job you get random drug test. You fail your ass is fired. Unions protect there drug addicts and drunks so they can get the dues for the Democratic party as well as Tax money.

I will lay out the typical republican for you, They are a brain washed bunch, but one I will relate to 99% of the time because they will work hard to get what they instead if collecting free money like a union member.

And if its slander, sue me or what ever. My profile is accurate.

No, it's not accurate, it's "pitiful".

Union members in the private sector are just 7.5% of all workers in the US and and union members in government are just 4.4% of all workers in the US. And all the economic problems are because of them?

Next, right wing morons will be blaming the Iraq War and the Katrina debacle and the 2.4 trillion dollar tax break and the 5 trillion dollar Republican votes for drugs bill on unions.

I glad we keep records. They change history faster than it can be made.
 
Typical union member? That's slander and "typical" of assholes.

The same thing can go on at any job. It all depends if the perp is "caught".

"Typical Union Member"?

Do you really want to lay out what the "typical Republican " is (90%) or isn't (6%)?

What union are you in ? What ever one it is you are probably a typical union member or 99 weeker/ welfare case.

On any other job you get random drug test. You fail your ass is fired. Unions protect there drug addicts and drunks so they can get the dues for the Democratic party as well as Tax money.

I will lay out the typical republican for you, They are a brain washed bunch, but one I will relate to 99% of the time because they will work hard to get what they instead if collecting free money like a union member.

And if its slander, sue me or what ever. My profile is accurate.

No, it's not accurate, it's "pitiful".

Union members in the private sector are just 7.5% of all workers in the US and and union members in government are just 4.4% of all workers in the US. And all the economic problems are because of them?

Next, right wing morons will be blaming the Iraq War and the Katrina debacle and the 2.4 trillion dollar tax break and the 5 trillion dollar Republican votes for drugs bill on unions.

I glad we keep records. They change history faster than it can be made.

Yeah, there the 7.5 % who drove the majority of our production jobs to china and Mexico.

Yeah, there the 4.4% who cant teach kids to read in Wisconsin, but cry when they are about to lose there power and will have to work for a living and pay into there benefits like everyone else.

And as For Katrina, That happened right next door to me. Even with you being in Chicago you cant deny that it was Ray Nagan and Governor Blanco who screwed that up and got people killed.

And as for your other ramblings is this what you are blathering about ? Another hand out ?

(AP) House Republicans on Wednesday thwarted a Democratic effort to award $250 checks to Social Security recipients facing a second consecutive year without a cost-of-living increase.

President Barack Obama and Democrats have urged approval of the one-time payment, saying seniors barely getting by on their Social Security checks face undue hardships without the COLA increase.

But Republicans contended that the nation couldn't afford the estimated $14 billion cost of the payment, and that the COLA freezes in 2010 and 2011 come after seniors received a significant boost in 2009.

The measure was brought up under a fast-track procedure that required a two-thirds majority for passage. The 254-153 vote in favor of the bill fell short of that.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the financial aid was critical to seniors facing rising costs and falling home values and was fiscally responsible. "But unfortunately, congressional Republicans overwhelmingly chose to oppose it." Twenty-six Republicans voted for the bill, while 141 opposed it. Democrats were in favor, 228-12.

COLAs are set automatically each year by an inflation measure that was adopted by Congress in 1975. More than 58 million retirees, disabled people and surviving family members receive Social Security or Supplemental Security Income checks. The average monthly check is $1,072.

The increase for 2009 was 5.8 percent, the largest in 27 years. It was triggered by a sharp but short-lived spike in gas prices to above $4 a gallon in the summer of 2008. By law, the next increase in benefits won't come until consumer prices as a whole rise above what they were that summer.

Democrats and advocacy groups say the formula does not accurately reflect the living costs of seniors, who pay more for such commodities as health care and drugs.

"Basically, they have their benefit levels flatlined at a time when they're encountering higher costs, reducing their quality of life experience and disappointing them greatly about Social Security," said Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., a member of the Ways and Means Social Security subcommittee.

Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas, the top Republican on that subcommittee, acknowledged that disappointment but noted the big increase seniors received in 2009 and the fact that a COLA increase means there will be no rise in Medicare Part B costs for doctors' visits. "Increasing our nation's crushing deficit on the backs of our children by an additional $14 billion is wrong," he said.

The Senate was also scheduled to vote later Wednesday on legislation with the $250 payment, but there too Republican opposition dimmed prospects for advancing the bill.

The House did approve, by voice vote, a Senate-passed bill aimed at stopping Social Security number fraud by barring federal, state and local governments from displaying those numbers on paper checks.

The bill also bans federal, state and local governments from using prisoners in any capacity that would give them access to Social Security numbers. The nation's Medicare agency has been criticized for issuing insurance cards that include beneficiaries' full Social Security numbers.
 
Typical private worker copying his ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZYQXTRZjG4

Does it say what happened to him for copying his ass ? I vaguely remember hearing this guy got fired ? What if he were a union member ? what would happen then ?

btw, the union workers got fired....did you know that?
Link?

Because some of those caught that day kept their jobs after being suspended, and were found just last month (Kudos to FOX for further exposing it) in a Detroit crack house.
 
The private sector workers need to take a 20% cut in pay and benefits to help corporations to stimulate the economy and be able to hire more workers to boost the GDP, and lower unemployment costs and associated taxes.

You think that hasn't happened, dick head? Of course, if you don't work for a living, yourself, how would you really know what's going on.
 

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