Private Gun Sales.

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

You don't need to tell me that because I have never done that here.

If you don't like the thread then don't participate in it.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

You don't need to tell me that because I have never done that here.

If you don't like the thread then don't participate in it.

back atcha buttercup,,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

If you merely bounce a check and cover it there will be no criminal charges filed against you.

If you write a bad check and never cover it you're a fucking thief and IDGAF if you get slapped with a felony charge.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

You don't need to tell me that because I have never done that here.

If you don't like the thread then don't participate in it.

back atcha buttercup,,,

I'm the one who started the thread Sweetheart

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

If you merely bounce a check and cover it there will be no criminal charges filed against you.

If you write a bad check and never cover it you're a fucking thief and IDGAF if you get slapped with a felony charge.

not always,,

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

You don't need to tell me that because I have never done that here.

If you don't like the thread then don't participate in it.

back atcha buttercup,,,

I'm the one who started the thread Sweetheart

and yet youre complaining others are giving their opinions,,,

 

[Rigby5]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

Accidentally bouncing a check for over $100 can be a felony.
If a person is out of jail, then what they did in the past is no business of yours.
By law you have to trust them with a gun because they have the same right to defend themselves that you or anyone else has.
If they can't be trusted, then they should not be let out.
You can not legally create a 2 tiered society where some have more rights than others.

 

[Rigby5]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

Not true.
Governments get to impose fines and fees, so are eager to get felony convictions whenever possible.
One can just be counting on the next paycheck, and you get fired.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

If you merely bounce a check and cover it there will be no criminal charges filed against you.

If you write a bad check and never cover it you're a fucking thief and IDGAF if you get slapped with a felony charge.

not always,,

Care to provide a link that supports your assertion that merely bouncing a check and covering it results in a felony charge?

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

If you merely bounce a check and cover it there will be no criminal charges filed against you.

If you write a bad check and never cover it you're a fucking thief and IDGAF if you get slapped with a felony charge.

not always,,

Care to provide a link that supports your assertion that merely bouncing a check and covering it results in a felony charge?

not gonna waste my time since we all know that is up to the prosecution and the judge,,

they convict you and part of the judgement is to pay restitution,,

unless youre saying you can steal something and get off if you give it back,, which is the same thing,,

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

Not true.
Governments get to impose fines and fees, so are eager to get felony convictions whenever possible.
One can just be counting on the next paycheck, and you get fired.

I've never bounced a check but I have had people pay me and bounce a check usually they cover it and there are no charges ever filed.

To get a felony charge you usually have to write a bad check for 300 dollars and you only get that felony charge if you do not cover the check.

If you don't cover a check you are stealing. If you're a fucking thief then you should be treated like one.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

it violates the 2nd A,,,

I have no problem with felons and the adjudicated mentally ill not being allowed to have firearms.

I most certainly do have a problem with federal laws prohibiting felons and mentally ill from owning firearms.
It is NOT legal for the federal government to make ANY gun law, but felons can not be legally discriminated against.
Mentally ill can be, but obviously if they are mentally ill, they need to be institutionalized, since you can't let them get flammable,, toxins, explosives, etc. So federal gun laws make no sense and are not legal.

Good for you.

As far as I'm concerned any one who commits a felony has proven he isn't responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

so passing bad checks as a college student means he cant protect his family when hes 45,,,

if they are to dangerous to be trusted with a gun they shouldnt be let out of prison or put on lifetime parole,,

cause if they wanted a gun no law will stop them,,

You have to hang a lot of bad paper to be convicted of a felony so yeah fuck that college student because he knew what he was doing.

one piece of paper will do it,,,

and what about the guy in florida that got hit with a fed felony for letting wedding balloons go in a national park??

You don't get a felony charge unless you don't cover the check and if you don't cover the check you are nothing but a fucking thief.

not true,,

and youre still an american,,

If you merely bounce a check and cover it there will be no criminal charges filed against you.

If you write a bad check and never cover it you're a fucking thief and IDGAF if you get slapped with a felony charge.

not always,,

Care to provide a link that supports your assertion that merely bouncing a check and covering it results in a felony charge?

not gonna waste my time since we all know that is up to the prosecution and the judge,,

they convict you and part of the judgement is to pay restitution,,

unless youre saying you can steal something and get off if you give it back,, which is the same thing,,

So you're just spouting bullshit.

If you cover a bounced check you do not get charged with a felony. If you don't cover a bounced check then you are a fucking thief.

 

[DrLove]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

Does this mean you support requiring unlicensed dealers at gun shows to run background checks providing a serial number on the weapon?

It means I think that you should know whether or not the guy you are selling a gun to is legally eligible to own it. I don't care what kind of gun it is.

And how is that determined unless a thorough background check is conducted?

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

I asked a licenced FFL I hadn't purchaced from before what kind of warranty he offered ... He said "A Taillight Warranty"...as in, when your taillights disappear from view, so does the warranty.

I buy from private individuals, FFLs and online gun stores.

Never had an issue.

Selling is a different story...

I will only sell to unknown individual with a Missouri CCW. Otherwise I'll just sell or trade with folks I know or my local FFL.

I oppose banning private sales.

A ban of private sales is a de facto registration scheme. The first step to confiscation.

Do you oppose background checks for private sales?

Yes, for several reasons.
One is that they then let the government know what you have.
It also costs money.
The government won't let just anyone do a background checks, so you have to go through and pay an FFL.
Background check are pointless since any criminal will just get their weapons illegally.
Federal background check laws are specifically illegal according to the constitution.

The idea of turning the whole country into a supervised institution is insane.
What a normal society does instead is put only dangerous people into supervised institutions.

So you don't care if you sell a gun to a guy who uses it to murder someone or is felon or if you buy a possibly stolen gun that some criminal is selling you?

I think the $25 bucks an FFL charges is worth it for my own peace of mind

No one intent on murder is ever going to be effected by a gun law, so there is no reason not to sell to them.
Felons can not legally be prevented from the right of self defense.
Creating a 2nd tier of reduced rights for felons is illegal.
Stolen guns get sold to felons who are wiling to pay more for them, so there is risk of buying a stolen one.

So you don't care if a gun you sell to some low life is used to kill people or if the gun you buy was stolen and used in multiple crimes.

Got it.

Personally I don't want to help any piece of shit criminal commit crimes by selling him a gun.

By going along with irrational and illegal federal gun law, you destroy the democratic republic.

I don't think me keeping a clear conscience is doing any such thing. Which is why I don't sell guns to people I don't know and I never buy guns from anyone but a dealer with a brick and mortar establishment.

thats fine,, just dont push your views on the rest of us,,

Where have I don that?

and FYI disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion than you is not "pushing my views on you"

I didnt say you did,, just saying dont do it,,

You don't need to tell me that because I have never done that here.

If you don't like the thread then don't participate in it.

back atcha buttercup,,,

I'm the one who started the thread Sweetheart

and yet youre complaining others are giving their opinions,,,

Where have i complained?

 

[Blues Man]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

Does this mean you support requiring unlicensed dealers at gun shows to run background checks providing a serial number on the weapon?

It means I think that you should know whether or not the guy you are selling a gun to is legally eligible to own it. I don't care what kind of gun it is.

And how is that determined unless a thorough background check is conducted?

That's kind of a stupid question isn't it?

If I was going to sell a gun to a person I didn't know I would do it through an FFL.

I don't want to be the guy that sold a person planning to commit murder a gun. And I certainly don't want to unknowingly purchase a stolen gun.

Which again is why I don't ever buy guns from anyone but a licensed dealer and why I don't sell guns to people in private sales.

 

[DrLove]

I'm curious how many people buy or sell guns from or to a person they don't know.

I have never bought or sold a gun in a private sale. I don't want to buy a gun from someone only to find out it's a piece of junk and I don't want to buy any guns that may have been used in a crime so I only buy from licensed dealers.

I don't want to sell a gun to a person I don't know who may not be responsible or may commit crimes with a gun.

Does this mean you support requiring unlicensed dealers at gun shows to run background checks providing a serial number on the weapon?

It means I think that you should know whether or not the guy you are selling a gun to is legally eligible to own it. I don't care what kind of gun it is.

And how is that determined unless a thorough background check is conducted?

That's kind of a stupid question isn't it?

If I was going to sell a gun to a person I didn't know I would do it through an FFL.

I don't want to be the guy that sold a person planning to commit murder a gun. And I certainly don't want to unknowingly purchase a stolen gun.

Which again is why I don't ever buy guns from anyone but a licensed dealer and why I don't sell guns to people in private sales.

You never answered my original question -
Do you support unlicensed dealers selling guns to any jackass, kook or criminal at guns shows without a BG check?
(Quite legal in around half the states at present)