Zone1 President Roosevelt's New Deal, the Civil Rights Movement, and Related issues

[Hector12]

I like to document my factual assertions. What follows are my speculations that can not be proved or disproved.

During the 1930's and early 1940's President Roosevelt and his New Deal were popular among most Southern Whites and working class whites. This would not have been true if civil rights had been on the New Deal agenda. Restricting most blacks to second class citizenship was an open violation of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment's. It also made it responsible for the United States to recover from the Great Depression and win the Second World War.

During the Great Depression and the Second World War 90% of the U.S. population was white. Diversity is not our strength. It is the underlying reason for the political polarization that makes it difficult for the government to solve problems - like the debt crises - that did not exist before 1964, or that were manageable.

The Second World War made the civil rights movement possible. After the revelations of the Holocaust fewer Americans wanted to believe that racial differences mattered, or that they even existed. The Nazi effort to exterminate the most superior race in existence led to the belief that there are no inferior races.

Also, blacks had contributed loyally to the War effort. Many whites had difficulty understanding why a black battle scared veteran of the Second World War could not dine at a restaurant that served white men who had not been in uniform.

Nevertheless, the rise in black social pathology since 1963 substantiates conservative arguments against the civil rights movements.

Let's keep the insults and the name calling out of this, and try to have an intelligent discussion of a morally complex issue.

 

[DudleySmith]

Yes, FDR should have dropped everything and focused entirely on every snivel some minority had, and devoted all of his time to wiping their asses and drying the tears from their eyes. No white people were suffering during the Depression, cuz White Privilege n stuff. America was horrible, and still is, which is why half the planet wants to swarm the place; they all just want to fight all that injustice n stuff, is all. The rest of the planet never was racist, just a big Rainbow of tolerance and Diversity, and we should be ashamed of ourselves.

lol not.

 

[MarathonMike]

We all know that FDR ushered in the era of big government, he might be the most controversial President in history. One fact that is suppressed about FDR was admiration for Robert E Lee, obviously because that runs contrary to the Democrat narrative of the old South and their leaders being horrible racist monsters.

The two most volatile and racially divisive eras in recent history are the 60s and our most recent decade. The hatred and dissent of the 60s was created by the racial manipulator LBJ. The hatred and dissent of present day America was spurred by the transformer Obama. LBJs motivation was to control the American Black population so they would always vote Democrat. Obama's motivation was his hatred for America and his desire to bring it down and transform it into a weakened Marxist state. Both Presidents sadly were remarkably effective in achieving their goals.

 

[DudleySmith]

Actually Abraham Lincoln ushered in Big Govt., and the Republicans expanded it for the next 30-40 years.

lol at the LBJ bashing. He demanded sunset laws on his bills; Nixons came along and made the Civil and Voting Rghts Acts permanent and applicable to all 50 states instead of limited to seven southern states and set to expire in a few years, as the original Bills were. It was Eisenhower who sent Federal troops to desegregate schools. McKinnley invaded Cuba as President, and took over the Phillipines as well. There is a lot more, but it's about sniveling over FDR saving the country and making the social darwinists and incompetent Hoover look bad, and rescuing a good chunk of Europe and Japan from commie scum, which can never be forgiven. lol