President Obama Again Criticizes Trips to Las Vegas

[rightwinger]

He never said that, you're hysterical and likely hyperventilating

Read the OP...

This entire thread is about Obama saying "When times are tough, you tighten your belts," the president said. "You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."

People like yourself and Oldandtired are obviously encouraging Americans to spend money meant for their families on boats and Vegas vacations

Thankfully, Liberals have better family values and understand that you should not waste money your family needs to live on

And thus why the liberals are pushing for the handouts and entitlements.

So what is next RW.....people should not advertise on TV for "non essential" products as the American people are too irrespoopnsible to decide if they can afford to buy them?

So you are saying that it is OK to assume that ads on TV force people to make irresponsible decisions?

SO you agree that the government should get involved in our personal decision making becuase we are just too plain gullible and irresponsible to do it for ourselves?

Is that what you believe RW?

I don't see any legislation on the table there Oldandtired.

I am shocked that a responsible American such as yourself would advocate that Americans take money away from their families to blow on extravagances they can't afford.

Thankfully, liberals are more financially responsible

 

[CMike]

It's up to people to decide what to do with their not money, not for Orwellian Obama to decide for them.

If people wish to vacation in Vegas because they saved up money to do so and want a nice vacation that is there business.

No shit, the obama should take his own advice with our fuckin' money.

Frank is right.

However, it's more than okay for Obama and his family to go jet setting with taxpayer money when the country is in record debt?

 

[CMike]

Read the OP...

This entire thread is about Obama saying "When times are tough, you tighten your belts," the president said. "You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."

People like yourself and Oldandtired are obviously encouraging Americans to spend money meant for their families on boats and Vegas vacations

Thankfully, Liberals have better family values and understand that you should not waste money your family needs to live on

And thus why the liberals are pushing for the handouts and entitlements.

So what is next RW.....people should not advertise on TV for "non essential" products as the American people are too irrespoopnsible to decide if they can afford to buy them?

So you are saying that it is OK to assume that ads on TV force people to make irresponsible decisions?

SO you agree that the government should get involved in our personal decision making becuase we are just too plain gullible and irresponsible to do it for ourselves?

Is that what you believe RW?

I don't see any legislation on the table there Oldandtired.

I am shocked that a responsible American such as yourself would advocate that Americans take money away from their families to blow on extravagances they can't afford.

Thankfully, liberals are more financially responsible

The point is that's it up to individuals and their families to make those decisions for themselves.

Tourism is very important to the economy of Vegas, and when Obama opens his stupid mouth and hurts tourism, that can affect real families.

 

[rightwinger]

The beginning of the year my wife and I went on a vacation to the Palazzo, it's great hotel.

They have gondola rides as well.

The Palazzo Las Vegas - Resort Hotel Casino

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

 

[CMike]

Read the OP...

This entire thread is about Obama saying "When times are tough, you tighten your belts," the president said. "You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."

People like yourself and Oldandtired are obviously encouraging Americans to spend money meant for their families on boats and Vegas vacations

Thankfully, Liberals have better family values and understand that you should not waste money your family needs to live on

And thus why the liberals are pushing for the handouts and entitlements.

So what is next RW.....people should not advertise on TV for "non essential" products as the American people are too irrespoopnsible to decide if they can afford to buy them?

So you are saying that it is OK to assume that ads on TV force people to make irresponsible decisions?

SO you agree that the government should get involved in our personal decision making becuase we are just too plain gullible and irresponsible to do it for ourselves?

Is that what you believe RW?

I don't see any legislation on the table there Oldandtired.

I am shocked that a responsible American such as yourself would advocate that Americans take money away from their families to blow on extravagances they can't afford.

Thankfully, liberals are more financially responsible

Suppose the families want to go to Vegas and enjoy a nice vacation? How is that Obama's business or your business?

When I want your advice on what to do with my money I'll ask you for it.

 

[CMike]

The beginning of the year my wife and I went on a vacation to the Palazzo, it's great hotel.

They have gondola rides as well.

The Palazzo Las Vegas - Resort Hotel Casino

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

No, and Obama didn't say that either.

What he said was Obama saying "When times are tough, you tighten your belts," the president said. "You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."

 

[CMike]

The beginning of the year my wife and I went on a vacation to the Palazzo, it's great hotel.

They have gondola rides as well.

The Palazzo Las Vegas - Resort Hotel Casino

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

How about you don't take Air Force One, and two other jets; and cost the taxpayers about $250,000 because you and your wife want to see a play in NYC?

 

[CMike]

LiveLeak.com - UPDATE:OBAMA NYC TRIP COST $250,000?

There was, of course, an ironic element of the trip. In February, Obama scolded corporate executives (while also costing Las Vegas some $130 million) when he said: "You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas, or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime."

But the Chief Executive (Oval) Officer had made a promise to his good wife that after the campaign, they'd take in a Broadway show, and darn it, he meant to keep that promise.

One early estimate (from the New York Post) put the cost at $24,000. Absurdly low. The Daily Mail in London threw out another number — $75,000. Sure, three times as much as the first estimate, but still probably spectacularly low. Remember, joyriding Air Force One around for a few hours over Manhattan a couple months ago cost $250,000, so the cost of the weekend trip was likely not likely that low.

With the White House simply refusing to say how much taxpayer money it spent, here's a helpful way to calculate the cost of the trip:

First, the First Couple (and entourage) flew from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base — three choppers (two decoys), if the Marines stuck to standard operating procedure (and they are sticklers for SOP). That means dozens of men and women — radar, communications, mechanics, crews, everyone, perhaps 100, who knows? — were involved. (A batch of tagalongs must've taken a taxpayer pool of vehicles out from the White House to AAFB, since it took three jets to get the gang to NYC).

Second, the president moving on a Saturday takes a full operation at and around the White House, dozens and dozens of people. Maybe they're all on salary, so that didn't likely cost much. But all the cops involved — D.C. police, uniformed Secret Service officers, Capitol police — were probably paid overtime, even double time. Probably, again, 100 personnel or so.

Then there were the jets — at least $24,000 for the three aircraft used to ferry the Obamas, aides and reporters to New York. The Obamas' jet, a Gulfstream 500, served as Air Force One.

Third, a C-17 had to fly to NYC to put in place a full motorcade (at least a dozen vehicles, maybe more). The military cargo plane may have taken up at least two, but maybe three, more choppers to fly the whole party from JFK to a Wall Street landing zone, where the motorcade was waiting. If not, the choppers flew there solo (White House veteran reporter Mark Knoller of CBS Radio wrote recently that "The VH-3D that serves as Marine One consumes about 1,200 pounds of fuel per hour." Ouch.

Fourth, driving through Manhattan is an expensive exercise. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of NYPD have to be stationed all along the way, shutting down roads, holding back pedestrians. There were police cars involved, dozens of motorcycles, and the ever-present NYC ambulance (oh, don't forget that the White House doctor also probably went — with all his gear). The city likely gets reimbursed by the White House for the cost (they usually do). And they were all probably getting time and a half (the NYPD overtime budget is extraordinary).

Fifth, the United States Secret Service (USSS) had to scope out the whole thing, then station agents all over — sharpshooters, undercover agents, etc. — at a huge cost. Who knows if they were on overtime. And if you think they went up Saturday morning, think again. They were likely in NYC upwards of a week before, planning the whole evening, every second of every movement. They had to map out five movements — from JFK to the Wall Street LZ, then a motorcade to the restaurant, then another motorcade to the play, then a final motorcade back to the LZ, then a chopper flight to JFK, before the First Couple and crew jetted back to AAFB for another chopper to the White House.

One thing is known — The Obamas picked up the cost of dinner costs and their orchestra seat tickets, which cost $96.50 a piece. So if the whole thing cost $250,000, the Obamas offset that by at least a few hundred bucks. Phew.

 

[rightwinger]

The beginning of the year my wife and I went on a vacation to the Palazzo, it's great hotel.

They have gondola rides as well.

The Palazzo Las Vegas - Resort Hotel Casino

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

How about you don't take Air Force One, and another jet; and cost the taxpayers about $250,000 because you and your wife want to see a play in NYC?

I take my wife to see plays in NYC.

If the president were spending weekends on the French Riviera or in Tahiti, I would call that extravagant. Travelling from DC to NYC is not at all extavagant

 

[CMike]

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

How about you don't take Air Force One, and another jet; and cost the taxpayers about $250,000 because you and your wife want to see a play in NYC?

I take my wife to see plays in NYC.

If the president were spending weekends on the French Riviera or in Tahiti, I would call that extravagant. Travelling from DC to NYC is not at all extavagant

Not for Obama. It cost him about $100. It cost the taxpayers about $250,000.

Here Obama was bitching against corporate jets in private industry, yet he doesn't mind spending about a quarter of a million dollars of taxpayers' money so his wife and himself can see a play in NYC.

 

[Oldandtired]

The beginning of the year my wife and I went on a vacation to the Palazzo, it's great hotel.

They have gondola rides as well.

The Palazzo Las Vegas - Resort Hotel Casino

Did your house get forclosed?

Did you blow your kids education fund?

So should the president use "the guilt trip" to make people act responsibly?

So is that where we are now as a country...the president should act as one's conscience?

It may not sound like a bad thing....and it doesnt.....but look at what he does. He INADVERTANTLY criticizes the responsible as well.....and also gives Vegas (in this case) a stigma.

That is why I say his intentions are good....but that is not his role. He is not our consicieince....he is NOT our leader....he is our President...an elected official who does and speaks ON OUR BEHALF......and that is where he needs to draw the line.

 

[Xenophon]

open mouth insert foot chomp on it some swirl it around, spit and repeat .

President Obama is catching heat from Nevada lawmakers and business leaders regarding his comments Tuesday criticizing trips to Las Vegas.

During the president's town hall meeting in Nashua, New Hampshire, he discussed the need to curb spending during tough economic times. "When times are tough, you tighten your belts," the president said. "You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."

The president's comments come nearly a year after he criticized companies that received federal money for taking corporate junkets to Las Vegas. "You can't go take that trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on taxpayers' dime," he said at the time. Local business leaders say Nevada tourism suffered last year in part because companies canceled trips to Las Vegas in the wake of the president's comments.


the rest here.
President Obama Again Criticizes Trips to Las Vegas - Las Vegas Now

Barry is amazing.

He is repeating EVERYTHING that made him upopular in the first place, from these pointless attacks to wanting more 'stimulous' and crap & trade.

He is the most tone deaf POTUS ever.

 

[Oldandtired]

How about you don't take Air Force One, and another jet; and cost the taxpayers about $250,000 because you and your wife want to see a play in NYC?

I take my wife to see plays in NYC.

If the president were spending weekends on the French Riviera or in Tahiti, I would call that extravagant. Travelling from DC to NYC is not at all extavagant

Not for Obama. It cost him about $100. It cost the taxpayers about $250,000.

Here Obama was bitching against corporate jets in private industry, yet he doesn't mind spending about a quarter of a million dollars of taxpayers' money so his wife and himself can see a play in NYC.

Completely ignored was the cost to NYC....closed streets....extra security personnel.....and, as happens during UN functions.....widespread "closed to the public" signs.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama can't seem to stop stepping on his dick.

I think he needs to stop his Date Nights to New York.

Lead by example dude.


Anyone notice this guy talks the talk but never walks the walk himself?


Well...get used to it.

 

[rightwinger]

I take my wife to see plays in NYC.

If the president were spending weekends on the French Riviera or in Tahiti, I would call that extravagant. Travelling from DC to NYC is not at all extavagant

Not for Obama. It cost him about $100. It cost the taxpayers about $250,000.

Here Obama was bitching against corporate jets in private industry, yet he doesn't mind spending about a quarter of a million dollars of taxpayers' money so his wife and himself can see a play in NYC.

Completely ignored was the cost to NYC....closed streets....extra security personnel.....and, as happens during UN functions.....widespread "closed to the public" signs.

come on oldandtired...your partisanship is showing

The President of the United states is allowed to use Air Force One for personal trips. It includes Bush going to Crawford, Daddy Bush going to Kennebunkport and Reagan going to Santa Barbara.
If you want to put him on an allowance, talk to your representative.

Other than that, you are looking petty

 

[CMike]

Not for Obama. It cost him about $100. It cost the taxpayers about $250,000.

Here Obama was bitching against corporate jets in private industry, yet he doesn't mind spending about a quarter of a million dollars of taxpayers' money so his wife and himself can see a play in NYC.

Completely ignored was the cost to NYC....closed streets....extra security personnel.....and, as happens during UN functions.....widespread "closed to the public" signs.

come on oldandtired...your partisanship is showing

The President of the United states is allowed to use Air Force One for personal trips. It includes Bush going to Crawford, Daddy Bush going to Kennebunkport and Reagan going to Santa Barbara.
If you want to put him on an allowance, talk to your representative.

Other than that, you are looking petty

Oh presidents can go places. However, the previous presidents didn't waste $250,000 just to see a play in another city. They went there and stayed there, and worked from there.

Obama is such a hypocrite, here he bitches and moans what CEOs do in private companies, but he has no qualms about wasting $250,000 of taxpayer money so he and his wife can go to see a play.

I don't care what Obama does with his own money. I do care what he does with my money.

 

[CMike]

Also, in another display of arrogance he refuses to tell the taxpayers what his date night actually cost them.

 

[rightwinger]

Completely ignored was the cost to NYC....closed streets....extra security personnel.....and, as happens during UN functions.....widespread "closed to the public" signs.

come on oldandtired...your partisanship is showing

The President of the United states is allowed to use Air Force One for personal trips. It includes Bush going to Crawford, Daddy Bush going to Kennebunkport and Reagan going to Santa Barbara.
If you want to put him on an allowance, talk to your representative.

Other than that, you are looking petty

Oh presidents can go places. However, the previous presidents didn't waste $250,000 just to see a play in another city. They went there and stayed there, and worked from there.

Obama is such a hypocrite, here he bitches and moans what CEOs do in private companies, but he has no qualms about wasting $250,000 of taxpayer money so he and his wife can go to see a play.

I don't care what Obama does with his own money. I do care what he does with my money.

Ummm yes he did.

Bush used Air Force One for personal trips more than any other President

Compared to Bush, Obama has been frugal


New York City? Are you serious?

 

[rightwinger]

But we digress......

Lets get back to Conservatives encouraging Americans to spend their Mortgage and College education funds on Vegas vacations


I thought they claimed they would be fiscally responsible?

 

[Ravi]

However, the previous presidents didn't waste $250,000 just to see a play in another city.

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