Posse Comitatus...

[occupied]

That can be done in other ways. We don't have to sacrifice our Freedom & Liberty in the process.

Talked to this guy before, he would happily welcome a police state as long as they are concentrating the fascism on Mexicans.

You are lying. I never said that. Please provide the link to where i said that. I'll wait.

I was talking about the jackoff you had replied to.

 

[konradv]

If we're going to bring our troops home and concentrate on domestic concerns, where are they supposed to get the training? Funny thing for a Paul supporter to be concerned about! Homeland Security doesn't come under the Posse Comitatus Act, anyway.

The National Guard is not prohibited from assuming police duties, but the Military is. These exercises may not violate the Act technically, but they are an alarming and ominous sign in my opinion.

As long as they're not directed towards U.S. citizens, it's perfectly legal. It's even legal against citizens, with Congressional authorization.

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ed Spacer]

Time we take our cities back from criminal scum and degenerates and it back to the law aviding citizens.

That can be done in other ways. We don't have to sacrifice our Freedom & Liberty in the process.

Agreed,but pandering to the criminal element will only allow them more room to work. I lived in holyoke,ma at one time,full gangs and garbage,and would have loved to seen the police there grown balls to deal with the problem. I agree but law abiding citizens if handled right,will not lose their liberties,if done properly. It shouldnt be blanketed though to involve citizens,because then we will lose our ability to have a strong anticrime deterrant. Blame tje ACLU for tjis,bevause of them,everything has to be blanketed cause of crybaby grouos,and noy properly investigated and properly profiled to get the right people deadon.

 

[Meister]

Citizens as well ,law abiding,should have also a no quarter approach to dealing with criminal scum.

Now if we could get the justice system on board dealing with the criminal scum.
Seems like a lot less crime would occur if 10 year stint meant a 10 year stint and not 2-3 year stint. Keep the rat bastards in prison when they are handed a given time.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”

You’ve got to be a liberal troll – no one’s this stupid.

 

[paulitician]

Talked to this guy before, he would happily welcome a police state as long as they are concentrating the fascism on Mexicans.

You are lying. I never said that. Please provide the link to where i said that. I'll wait.

I was talking about the jackoff you had replied to.

Oh yeah, my bad. I did catch it. I deleted my reply but you were too damn quick on the draw. My apologies.

 

[paulitician]

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”

You’ve got to be a liberal troll – no one’s this stupid.

That is a real headline.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Citizens as well ,law abiding,should have also a no quarter approach to dealing with criminal scum.

Now if we could get the justice system on board dealing with the criminal scum.
Seems like a lot less crime would occur if 10 year stint meant a 10 year stint and not 2-3 year stint. Keep the rat bastards in prison when they are handed a given time.

Thats true. When i lived in holyoke,ma,we had a great conservative police chief anthony scott,who created a program called TBOS,coordinated with the FBI,did full investigated exactly who the dealers and ganfs were,did undercover buys,stings,etc.daily roundup of thirty forty gangers and leaders,and then whwn the judges got them,they were always eeleased. The liberal judges were letting latino gangers go with solud evidebce,even after 20,30 convictions,back on the street. This is why i also support the second amendment for citizens to protect themselves,too.

 

[konradv]

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”

You’ve got to be a liberal troll – no one’s this stupid.

He called you a bad word, Paulitician!

 

[paulitician]

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”

You’ve got to be a liberal troll – no one’s this stupid.

He called you a bad word, Paulitician!

I'm pretty sure i can handle it.

 

[whitehall]

Ignorant lefties will tolerate anything during a democrat administration. Look at Janet Reno/Bill Clinton's invasion of Waco, Tx. with tanks, helicopters and poison gas. JFK used the CIA to raise, train and equip a little army to invade Cuba. Look at FDR's presidential order that put thousands of American citizens behind barbed wire.

 

[Charles_Main]

Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List.

Joint military exercises in Boston, LA, Little Rock in past six months.

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”
CBS Los Angeles, January 24, 2012

If we were conspiracy theorists we would ask how many downtown urban areas does the military need for ‘joint military exercises’ with the local police? Exercises ignored by the mainstream news media which the public is given scant or no notice? The joint military exercises were part of a disturbing trend of joint military and police-Homeland Security military-type operations.

In the past six months, three joint military exercises in Boston, Little Rock, and Los Angeles. The Little Rock joint military exercise: 80-100 Special Operation ground forces, 7-9 rotary wing aircraft and 2-3 fixed wing airframes. The Los Angeles military exercise carried out while President Barack Obama gave his January 24, 2012, State of the Union speech. In April, 2011, the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force ‘military’ multiple ‘Blackhawk-type’ helicopters exercise. In early January, a Homeland Security ‘training exercise’ at a Leesburg, FL, social security office. The training exercise involved Federal Protective Service officers in SWAT gear who carried AK-47′s.


The rather curious military exercise in Central Florida involved a ‘civilian plane’ that crashed in mid-November, 2010. A plane crash which the FAA confirmed there were fatalities but wouldn’t confirm how many.

SunSentinel.com November 18, 2011:

TAMPA — Officials are searching the wreckage of a small, civilian plane that crashed while assisting with a military training exercise in rural Central Florida. No military officials or weapons were on board.

The National Transportation Safety Board confirmed there are fatalities, but did not say how many. It’s unclear how many were onboard the flight that crashed Wednesday night in Avon Park.

One wonders how the Sun Sentinel knew there weren’t any military officials or weapons on the plane? A plane that was missing?

On April 20, 2011, the Miami Sun Sentinel reported Military helicopter exercise startles downtown Brickell residents.

“At least three large Black Hawk-like choppers landed in a parking lot of the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts on Biscayne Boulevard and 14th Street” at approximately 9:15 PM”, a “planned Homeland Security exercise” by the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force.

The Miami-Dade Fire Rescue thought it was a movie shoot.


July 25th through August 5th, 2011, a joint military exercise over downtown Boston-video posted below. Residents of Boston were given a 24-hour advance warning via a press release on the city of Boston official website.

For Immediate Release
July 25, 2011
Released By:
Mayor’s Office For More Information Contact:
Mayor’s Press Office
[email protected]

Joint federal military training exercises will take place within and around the Boston area between July 26th and August 5th. Military personnel will conduct training exercises to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements. Helicopters will be used in some exercises.

The Boston Police Department is working with military personnel to coordinate training sites that will minimize negative impacts on our Boston citizens and their daily routines. Safety precautions have been taken to prevent risk to the general public and the military personnel involved. With that, training site locations are not open to the public and will be guarded by uniformed personnel to provide additional safety.

Read More:
Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List | DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP

So you would rather our Military be barred from Defending US cities, and Training to do so?

 

[Ed Spacer]

awesome point,charles,some people would rather have us defenseless against the threats and elements.

 

[paulitician]

Ignorant lefties will tolerate anything during a democrat administration. Look at Janet Reno/Bill Clinton's invasion of Waco, Tx. with tanks, helicopters and poison gas. JFK used the CIA to raise, train and equip a little army to invade Cuba. Look at FDR's presidential order that put thousands of American citizens behind barbed wire.

Yeah, most are still duped by that ole Republican vs. Democrat sham. It's not only Democrats though. That goes for both sides. Both will defend the indefensible if their team is in power. Most haven't figured out yet that they all play on the same team in the end. This current President has only strengthened the Police State since he came to power. He's no different than the previous President. But many will stubbornly cling to the belief that he really is so different. It's all just one big club, and you're not invited.

 

[paulitician]

Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List.

Joint military exercises in Boston, LA, Little Rock in past six months.

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”
CBS Los Angeles, January 24, 2012

If we were conspiracy theorists we would ask how many downtown urban areas does the military need for ‘joint military exercises’ with the local police? Exercises ignored by the mainstream news media which the public is given scant or no notice? The joint military exercises were part of a disturbing trend of joint military and police-Homeland Security military-type operations.

In the past six months, three joint military exercises in Boston, Little Rock, and Los Angeles. The Little Rock joint military exercise: 80-100 Special Operation ground forces, 7-9 rotary wing aircraft and 2-3 fixed wing airframes. The Los Angeles military exercise carried out while President Barack Obama gave his January 24, 2012, State of the Union speech. In April, 2011, the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force ‘military’ multiple ‘Blackhawk-type’ helicopters exercise. In early January, a Homeland Security ‘training exercise’ at a Leesburg, FL, social security office. The training exercise involved Federal Protective Service officers in SWAT gear who carried AK-47′s.


The rather curious military exercise in Central Florida involved a ‘civilian plane’ that crashed in mid-November, 2010. A plane crash which the FAA confirmed there were fatalities but wouldn’t confirm how many.

SunSentinel.com November 18, 2011:

TAMPA — Officials are searching the wreckage of a small, civilian plane that crashed while assisting with a military training exercise in rural Central Florida. No military officials or weapons were on board.

The National Transportation Safety Board confirmed there are fatalities, but did not say how many. It’s unclear how many were onboard the flight that crashed Wednesday night in Avon Park.

One wonders how the Sun Sentinel knew there weren’t any military officials or weapons on the plane? A plane that was missing?

On April 20, 2011, the Miami Sun Sentinel reported Military helicopter exercise startles downtown Brickell residents.

“At least three large Black Hawk-like choppers landed in a parking lot of the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts on Biscayne Boulevard and 14th Street” at approximately 9:15 PM”, a “planned Homeland Security exercise” by the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force.

The Miami-Dade Fire Rescue thought it was a movie shoot.


July 25th through August 5th, 2011, a joint military exercise over downtown Boston-video posted below. Residents of Boston were given a 24-hour advance warning via a press release on the city of Boston official website.

For Immediate Release
July 25, 2011
Released By:
Mayor’s Office For More Information Contact:
Mayor’s Press Office
[email protected]

Joint federal military training exercises will take place within and around the Boston area between July 26th and August 5th. Military personnel will conduct training exercises to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements. Helicopters will be used in some exercises.

The Boston Police Department is working with military personnel to coordinate training sites that will minimize negative impacts on our Boston citizens and their daily routines. Safety precautions have been taken to prevent risk to the general public and the military personnel involved. With that, training site locations are not open to the public and will be guarded by uniformed personnel to provide additional safety.

Read More:
Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List | DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP

So you would rather our Military be barred from Defending US cities, and Training to do so?

Depends on who or what their 'defending' U.S. Cities from? I guess we'll see though. Because they're obviously gearing up for something.

 

[konradv]

awesome point,charles,some people would rather have us defenseless against the threats and elements.

You don't get it. It's not about the "elements" in the city.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Time we take our cities back from criminal scum and degenerates and it back to the law aviding citizens.

That can be done in other ways. We don't have to sacrifice our Freedom & Liberty in the process.

Except that you haven't given up any freedoms or liberties..........

 

[Charles_Main]

Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List.

Joint military exercises in Boston, LA, Little Rock in past six months.

If you notice a heavy military presence around downtown Los Angeles this week, don’t be alarmed — it’s only a drill.”
CBS Los Angeles, January 24, 2012

If we were conspiracy theorists we would ask how many downtown urban areas does the military need for ‘joint military exercises’ with the local police? Exercises ignored by the mainstream news media which the public is given scant or no notice? The joint military exercises were part of a disturbing trend of joint military and police-Homeland Security military-type operations.

In the past six months, three joint military exercises in Boston, Little Rock, and Los Angeles. The Little Rock joint military exercise: 80-100 Special Operation ground forces, 7-9 rotary wing aircraft and 2-3 fixed wing airframes. The Los Angeles military exercise carried out while President Barack Obama gave his January 24, 2012, State of the Union speech. In April, 2011, the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force ‘military’ multiple ‘Blackhawk-type’ helicopters exercise. In early January, a Homeland Security ‘training exercise’ at a Leesburg, FL, social security office. The training exercise involved Federal Protective Service officers in SWAT gear who carried AK-47′s.


The rather curious military exercise in Central Florida involved a ‘civilian plane’ that crashed in mid-November, 2010. A plane crash which the FAA confirmed there were fatalities but wouldn’t confirm how many.

SunSentinel.com November 18, 2011:

TAMPA — Officials are searching the wreckage of a small, civilian plane that crashed while assisting with a military training exercise in rural Central Florida. No military officials or weapons were on board.

The National Transportation Safety Board confirmed there are fatalities, but did not say how many. It’s unclear how many were onboard the flight that crashed Wednesday night in Avon Park.

One wonders how the Sun Sentinel knew there weren’t any military officials or weapons on the plane? A plane that was missing?

On April 20, 2011, the Miami Sun Sentinel reported Military helicopter exercise startles downtown Brickell residents.

“At least three large Black Hawk-like choppers landed in a parking lot of the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts on Biscayne Boulevard and 14th Street” at approximately 9:15 PM”, a “planned Homeland Security exercise” by the Miami-Dade police’s SE Regional Domestic Security Task Force.

The Miami-Dade Fire Rescue thought it was a movie shoot.


July 25th through August 5th, 2011, a joint military exercise over downtown Boston-video posted below. Residents of Boston were given a 24-hour advance warning via a press release on the city of Boston official website.

For Immediate Release
July 25, 2011
Released By:
Mayor’s Office For More Information Contact:
Mayor’s Press Office
[email protected]

Joint federal military training exercises will take place within and around the Boston area between July 26th and August 5th. Military personnel will conduct training exercises to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements. Helicopters will be used in some exercises.

The Boston Police Department is working with military personnel to coordinate training sites that will minimize negative impacts on our Boston citizens and their daily routines. Safety precautions have been taken to prevent risk to the general public and the military personnel involved. With that, training site locations are not open to the public and will be guarded by uniformed personnel to provide additional safety.

Read More:
Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise List | DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP

So you would rather our Military be barred from Defending US cities, and Training to do so?

Depends on who or what their 'defending' U.S. Cities from? I guess we'll see though. Because they're obviously gearing up for something.

we have an all volunteer Army made up of ordinary citizens with Families at home. I believe there is a limit to what their Political Master in DC could get them to do against the American People. I doubt you could get the US military to go into the Streets for example to put down a Rebellion against an Abuses Federal Government. I know a lot of active duty Military personnel, and my guess is if the Government tried to use them against the people in a way they saw as Unfair, that the Government would find itself not only facing 250 Million privately owned guns, but a Rebellion among the Military as well. officers in our Military swear to Protect and Defend the Constitution just as our Political Leaders do. Just when, if faced with a Fed that disregards the Constitution, will the Military decide in order to Defend the Constitution they need to attack the Government would be the question.

 

[paulitician]

Time we take our cities back from criminal scum and degenerates and it back to the law aviding citizens.

That can be done in other ways. We don't have to sacrifice our Freedom & Liberty in the process.

Except that you haven't given up any freedoms or liberties..........

Well we'll see. These Military/Police exercises haven't violated the Act so far, but what are they gearing up for? These exercises are increasing in frequency. I think Americans should be very concerned.

 

[Charles_Main]

That can be done in other ways. We don't have to sacrifice our Freedom & Liberty in the process.

Except that you haven't given up any freedoms or liberties..........

Well we'll see. These Military/Police exercises haven't violated the Act so far, but what are they gearing up for? These exercises are increasing in frequency. I think Americans should be very concerned.

Since 9/11 our Military has been re gearing toward defending the Homeland. This is nothing new. The Sad Truth is before 9/11 our Military was almost entirely designed to shield against Nuclear attack, and to Project Power Abroad.

Not much thought had been given to defending the US from Ground attack, or small militant groups. As it was thought pretty unthinkable we would have to. 9/11 changed all that.

What you are watching is the US military adapting to a new Reality, nothing sinister, though the power must always be watched, because clearly it could be used for sinister ends.