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SS is easy to fix. Medicare not so easy.
Socialized medicine stands the best shot.
Sure, if you want to suffer and die
Based on everything I've read and heard in recent months our economic problems can be resolved by restoring the progressive tax rate to pre-Reagan levels, cutting the Pentagon budget and appointing independent commissions to review all major federal spending and make recommendations to eliminate waste and "pork" projects.It doesn't matter what the polls say. If we don't cut Medicare and other things necessary the balance our budget, the economy shall collapse. We are debasing the dollar at an alarming rate. Hyperinflation is going to happen in the near future.
I don't approve of the fact that we Americans spend far more for a pill than someone in France or Canada pays for it.That is because they have none. Their Plan amounts to Demonize the Opposition and Rape 500 Billion from Medicare to help fund the Next Big Government Health plan that is sure to fail.
That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
I would presume that's because they don't know how bad the problem is or to the extent that the entitlements are causing the problems.
Looks like we need to keep educating people.
Exactly. How do we cover the $51-trillion dollar ponzi scheme we call Medicare?
I have not heard the dems' plan to save SS & Medicare over the long-term. What is it?
Exactly. How do we cover the $51-trillion dollar ponzi scheme we call Medicare?
I have not heard the dems' plan to save SS & Medicare over the long-term. What is it?
That is because they have none. Their Plan amounts to Demonize the Opposition and Rape 500 Billion from Medicare to help fund the Next Big Government Health plan that is sure to fail.
That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
SS is easy to fix. Medicare not so easy.
Socialized medicine stands the best shot.
Sure, if you want to suffer and die
We all pretty much suffer and die, it is all just a matter of how much the medical industry gets out of you or the gummit first.
there are entire branches of the medical industry who make tens of billions per year from suffering and dying and prolonging it.
I don't approve of the fact that we Americans spend far more for a pill than someone in France or Canada pays for it.That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
90% want the winning lottery numbers too. So?
Doesn't mean that the country needs to be governed that way. Stupid argument.
I don't approve of the fact that we Americans spend far more for a pill than someone in France or Canada pays for it.That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
What?....i thought we were talking about the Elderly paying their dues.......your going to have to explain what you are asking.....what i said up there refers to Federal,State County, City,General Moters,GE,Boing.....wherever.....you worked the time,paid whatever into it IN GOOD FAITH.....you deserve what you were led to believe you would get when you Retire....if you feel it has to be changed....then change it with the new hires....not the people who have worked half their lives there.....And that differs from state employee pension plans how?
What I'm saying is that the two are comparable.
Seniors have not put enough aside to pay for their medicare. The unfunded liability of Medicare may be as high as $50 trillion.
Likewise, state employees have not set aside enough for their retirement, except by the most extreme forecasts, the unfunded liability is about $3 trillion.
Yet, the Tea Party focuses on the unfunded liabilities of the state employees. They don't focus as much on the unfunded liabilities of medicare. Why? Because the Tea Party skews older, many of whom are recipients of medicare. Instead, the chant platitudes such as "We paid into it," or "We paid our dues." Well, how's that any different from state employees? State employees paid into the pension plans as well, either directly or indirectly through deferred compensation. But the Tea Party wants state employees to pay more into their pension plans - or get less. They aren't as vocal about seniors paying more or getting less. They are applying a double standard because it affects them. Yet the unfunded liabilities of state employees pales compared to that of medicare.
I'm not passing a moral judgment. I'm just pointing out the contradiction which is rife throughout American politics at the moment. People want others to pay, but they don't want to pay themselves for the benefits they are receiving. It's not only Tea Party supporters doing that. Most Americans are. It's just that on this issue, its pretty blatant.
That is because they have none. Their Plan amounts to Demonize the Opposition and Rape 500 Billion from Medicare to help fund the Next Big Government Health plan that is sure to fail.
That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
That's not quite true. Democrats have long pushed the plan for buying medical supplies "in bulk", but Republicans have not only blocked that, they codified it into law in the Medicare Part D. It's one of the reasons that plan is so expensive.
It works like this. Say France, Great Britain and Spain need insulin. They consolidate their order and because it's in bulk, the cost is pennies.
Now say all the HMOs in Texas want to buy insulin in bulk because their cost would drop, NO CAN DO. Every HMO has to place their orders separately. Every state separately. Every organization separately. NO BULK ORDERS! This can raise the cost by a factor of a hundred. This happened because the drug companies lobbied Republicans who were in power to include that in their Drug bill. Anyone who followed this bill which, by the way, was, "passed through reconciliation" knows this was a major part of the debate.
$Republicans are for the drug companies. They know it hurts America, but just like those in the base who say, "We don't care about anyone else", the leadership also "doesn't care".
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
Dean is right on a few points Avatar.....my question is....why do we allow Foreign Countries to get a break on any stuff our Companies produce....but yet we here in the US have to pay top Dollar for the stuff?.....
Of course we are for drug companies. We like the fact that they do research and develop treatments and cures for diseases.
Why on earth would any sane person be opposed to that?
Dean is right on a few points Avatar.....my question is....why do we allow Foreign Countries to get a break on any stuff our Companies produce....but yet we here in the US have to pay top Dollar for the stuff?.....
Because we legislated that CASH BENEFIT to big pharma.
Anybody who really thinks our government is SERIOUS about solving this problem isn't paying attention.
NOBODY has a solution, folks.
The only real solution is to bring down the cost of HC.
But nobody knows how to do that in this kind of economy.
I'm not really sure it would be do-able in any kind of economy other than a complete top down fascistic society which imposed wage and price controls, and forced HC providers to make less money.
That ain't gonna happen.
Polls illustrate the conundrum faced by the Republicans. In survey after survey, the old folk largely embrace Republican rhetoric about reducing the size of the federal government and keeping taxation low. The elders especially despise what is commonly known as Obamacare, with 54% of likely voters in this age group favoring repeal in contrast to 51% of all likely voters, according to Rasmussen Reports. But when asked if they favor the Medicare reform plan by Republican Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and endorsed by GOP leaders in the House, they equivocate.
According to a recent Rasmussen, 33% of the likely voters 65 and older support the plan, 27% oppose it, and 40% don't know whether or not to embrace it. This is similar to the results from younger likely voters who would, in fact, be impacted by the Ryan plan. The uncertainty is a big negative for the GOP.
Among all likely voters, only 47% say there is a need to make major changes in Medicare and 36% don't think any changes are needed at all. A Hill source says that polls conducted exclusively for the GOP produced a more startling result: A majority of likely voters believes that the budget can be balanced merely by eliminating all foreign aid.
Cut NASA and the ARTS.
Cut NASA and the ARTS.
NASA has already been cut....and besides that one Entity and all those who do work for them are responsible for a hell of a lot of Scientific and Medical Advancements.....its dam pathetic when Russia has to take our guys up to the Space Station....
