healthmyths
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Obama has already taken steps to destroy Medicare. Asking about Ryan's intentions is like asking if there was a second iceberg for the Titanic to hit.
Wyden-Ryan Medicare plan will only apply to what age and younger?
The Paul "Ayn Rand" Ryan Medicare plan is all part of the Republican plan to "starve the beast" as they call it.
When Obama had his Health Care Summit in 2/10, it was a real opportunity for him to have applied the lessons that Clinton didn't learn until his second term. Obama could have guaranteed himself a second term AND gotten a bipartisan plan passed that would have been a give and take compromise...but the dems were in the position that they didn't have to work with the other side, yet of course the left doesn't see them as the party of no on this issue. Legislators throw shit out there and see how much of it will stick to the wall in hopes that they'll get at least some of what they were angling for, but prepared to give up some as well. Obama chose to cut off his nose to spite his face. So the left can go on and on about how they don't like this plan, but I don't think Ryan, or Romney based on his own experience, would be so quick to shoot down the idea of again working with the left to try and find some common ground to craft a final piece of legislation that could pass both houses.
Alright you don't care for the Ryan plan given the fact that Medicare is already spending more than it is bringing in which means if this trend continues sooner or later it will go belly up what plan or course of action would you support to prevent this?
There is nothing that Ryan proposes that could possibly be any scarier than this. People that haven't paid attention the the IPAB, need to take a close look.
Oh I'm sure someone will say that tax the rich more to pay for everything. Which of course leads to the question what do you do when the rich are tapped out?Alright you don't care for the Ryan plan given the fact that Medicare is already spending more than it is bringing in which means if this trend continues sooner or later it will go belly up what plan or course of action would you support to prevent this?
Tax the rich, of course.
Liberal Trope:
Ryan wants to destroy Medicare.
By now the details of the Wyden-Ryan Medicare plan are well known. Avik Roy explains:
the Wyden-Ryan Medicare planso named because it was coauthored by progressive Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.)
only applies to Americans younger than 55 years of age, and
gives those younger individuals the option of remaining in the traditional Medicare program,
or choosing a comparable private-sector insurance plan.
The policy-wonk term for this approach is competitive bidding, an idea that originated with Democrats. The Wyden-Ryan plan is nearly identical to one that was introduced a few weeks earlier by Mitt Romney.
Five liberal tropes Ryan can eviscerate - Right Turn - The Washington Post
Liberal Trope:
Ryan wants to destroy Medicare.
By now the details of the Wyden-Ryan Medicare plan are well known. Avik Roy explains:
the Wyden-Ryan Medicare planso named because it was coauthored by progressive Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.)
only applies to Americans younger than 55 years of age, and
gives those younger individuals the option of remaining in the traditional Medicare program,
or choosing a comparable private-sector insurance plan.
The policy-wonk term for this approach is competitive bidding, an idea that originated with Democrats. The Wyden-Ryan plan is nearly identical to one that was introduced a few weeks earlier by Mitt Romney.
Five liberal tropes Ryan can eviscerate - Right Turn - The Washington Post
I don't care what his plan is. I don't live in America, so I shouldn't care, but I would actually worry if my American friends were to suffer, and I believe they would under the Republicans.