Poll: GOP support for gun control dips since Parkland

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

If the vast majority of Americans supported it, there would be an outcry from someone besides the Democrats.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

If the vast majority of Americans supported it, there would be an outcry from someone besides the Democrats.

How do you know there is not/ Especially since you label any such outcry as Democratic..the moment it is uttered?
I'm not a Democrat..and I'm a gun-owner..and I support Universal background checks..I also support applying this to private gun sales..I also support Red flag laws. I live in Idaho..and many of my neighbors feel the same. Many do not. None of us are Democrats..which are kinda thin on the ground, around these parts.
Quite frankly..I'd support a law that required every gun to be tested and its lands and grooves recorded. Except those weapons like shotguns..for the obvious reasons..LOL!
Catch the murderers, instead of holding open the idea that one might kill..and get away!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

If the vast majority of Americans supported it, there would be an outcry from someone besides the Democrats.

How do you know there is not/ Especially since you label any such outcry as Democratic..the moment it is uttered?
I'm not a Democrat..and I'm a gun-owner..and I support Universal background checks..I also support applying this to private gun sales..I also support Red flag laws. I live in Idaho..and many of my neighbors feel the same. Many do not. None of us are Democrats..which are kinda thin on the ground, around these parts.
Quite frankly..I'd support a law that required every gun to be tested and its lands and grooves recorded. Except those weapons like shotguns..for the obvious reasons..LOL!
Catch the murderers, instead of holding open the idea that one might kill..and get away!

I label such ouch outcry as Democrat because after some cursory examination, Democrats are most often found to be the source.

I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, and I support killing the bad guys, locking up the crazies (permanently if wise), and leaving the American people alone.

I have no problem with background checks, but insist upon due process before Red Flag application. Without it, too much political and social mischief is possible.

 

[Old Man Grumbles]

I, too, am not a Democrat or a Republican. I can support some common sense and reasonable gun control laws. I have no issue with universal background checks, laws limiting magazine capacity greater than 20 - 30 capacity, outlaw bump stocks and other devices meant to increase the rate of fire of a weapon as examples. Placing higher taxes on firearms and ammunition is fine - taxes are a fact of life - but, those taxes damned well better be spent on educational programs, PSA's, etc.

Outlawing "assault weapons" - waste of time. Doing so will not stop mass killings, there are other semi-automatic firearms where, with some practice, one can rapidly swap magazines and continue the killing spree. It might take a bit more time, but it won't be appreciable. Confiscating "assault weapons" - good luck with that.

Red Flag laws - I understand the general idea and can support that. But, the laws need to be tightened up somewhat. First, the criteria given for a judge to decide is too hazy and broad. It needs to be clearly defined. Second, the list of who can petition the court needs to be only immediate family, household members, law enforcement, medical practitioners (who can place patients on mental health holds, which should be enough for a judge). Do that and I can agree to judges issuing a seizure order pending a hearing where the respondent, with assistance of legal counsel, is present and the hearing is held within a very reasonable time frame (say 7 - 14 days). I also believe respondents should have the right to take civil legal action against anyone making a spurious petition.

There is no way to completely prevent mass killings, but I'm not against minimizing them as much as is possible with reasonable laws.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

You better believe it there is no need for further rights restrictions if you want to restrict rights restrict the rights of the shooter and leave mine alone.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

You better believe it there is no need for further rights restrictions if you want to restrict rights restrict the rights of the shooter and leave mine alone.

I was wondering when the usual suspects would show up..can 2aGuy be far behind?

 

[justinacolmena]

GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

They vastly overrate themselves with all that "broad" bipartisan support for their fascist-socialist "measures."

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

They vastly overrate themselves with all that "broad" bipartisan support for their fascist-socialist "measures."

Would you be so kind as to post the data that supports your view....in opposition to the hundred of polls that show majority support for background checks?

Oh yeah..and who are 'they'?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

You better believe it there is no need for further rights restrictions if you want to restrict rights restrict the rights of the shooter and leave mine alone.

I was wondering when the usual suspects would show up..can 2aGuy be far behind?

Your dodge is noted
But I digress why do you want to restrict the rights of citizens for a program that has produce nothing but failure? Why don't you want to restrict the rights of the shooter instead?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I, too, am not a Democrat or a Republican. I can support some common sense and reasonable gun control laws. I have no issue with universal background checks, laws limiting magazine capacity greater than 20 - 30 capacity, outlaw bump stocks and other devices meant to increase the rate of fire of a weapon as examples. Placing higher taxes on firearms and ammunition is fine - taxes are a fact of life - but, those taxes damned well better be spent on educational programs, PSA's, etc.

Outlawing "assault weapons" - waste of time. Doing so will not stop mass killings, there are other semi-automatic firearms where, with some practice, one can rapidly swap magazines and continue the killing spree. It might take a bit more time, but it won't be appreciable. Confiscating "assault weapons" - good luck with that.

Red Flag laws - I understand the general idea and can support that. But, the laws need to be tightened up somewhat. First, the criteria given for a judge to decide is too hazy and broad. It needs to be clearly defined. Second, the list of who can petition the court needs to be only immediate family, household members, law enforcement, medical practitioners (who can place patients on mental health holds, which should be enough for a judge). Do that and I can agree to judges issuing a seizure order pending a hearing where the respondent, with assistance of legal counsel, is present and the hearing is held within a very reasonable time frame (say 7 - 14 days). I also believe respondents should have the right to take civil legal action against anyone making a spurious petition.

There is no way to completely prevent mass killings, but I'm not against minimizing them as much as is possible with reasonable laws.

Are you saying our current gun laws are common sense? if they are why create more?

 

[Old Man Grumbles]

Are you saying our current gun laws are common sense? if they are why create more?

No, not necessarily. Take for instance the fact that an 18 year old can buy a long gun, but has to be 21 to buy a pistol. Is there some great gain in smarts from 18 to 21?

ADDED: If there is then make it 21 for both. If there isn't, then 18 for both.

 

[Rustic]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

Frivouse gun control laws will not save a single soul… Commonsense says so

 

[Rustic]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

If the vast majority of Americans supported it, there would be an outcry from someone besides the Democrats.

How do you know there is not/ Especially since you label any such outcry as Democratic..the moment it is uttered?
I'm not a Democrat..and I'm a gun-owner..and I support Universal background checks..I also support applying this to private gun sales..I also support Red flag laws. I live in Idaho..and many of my neighbors feel the same. Many do not. None of us are Democrats..which are kinda thin on the ground, around these parts.
Quite frankly..I'd support a law that required every gun to be tested and its lands and grooves recorded. Except those weapons like shotguns..for the obvious reasons..LOL!
Catch the murderers, instead of holding open the idea that one might kill..and get away!

There should be no background checks on private sales, it’s unconstitutional

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

You better believe it there is no need for further rights restrictions if you want to restrict rights restrict the rights of the shooter and leave mine alone.

I was wondering when the usual suspects would show up..can 2aGuy be far behind?

Your dodge is noted
But I digress why do you want to restrict the rights of citizens for a program that has produce nothing but failure? Why don't you want to restrict the rights of the shooter instead?

*yawn*
One cannot 'restrict the rights of the shooter' until he BECOMES the shooter. This is what we are trying to avoid. The courts have held that reasonable gun control is not infringing on anyone's rights. You disagree.. noted. But....until you are appointed to the SCOTUS..I'll go with the prevailing body of law.

As for the current programs failing..when they are full of NRA sponsored loopholes...how can they not fail? Unless universal background checks are...welll...universal..they are token at best.

Also..we never will know if such things really work..as there are no stats kept..of the guy who looked for a gun...and was turned down..and did NOT kill someone,now are there?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

Frivouse gun control laws will not save a single soul… Commonsense says so

I'll bite..name me a non-frivolous gun control law? If they are all frivolous..then why make the distinction?

 

[Rustic]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

You better believe it there is no need for further rights restrictions if you want to restrict rights restrict the rights of the shooter and leave mine alone.

I was wondering when the usual suspects would show up..can 2aGuy be far behind?

Your dodge is noted
But I digress why do you want to restrict the rights of citizens for a program that has produce nothing but failure? Why don't you want to restrict the rights of the shooter instead?

*yawn*
One cannot 'restrict the rights of the shooter' until he BECOMES the shooter. This is what we are trying to avoid. The courts have held that reasonable gun control is not infringing on anyone's rights. You disagree.. noted. But....until you are appointed to the SCOTUS..I'll go with the prevailing body of law.

As for the current programs failing..when they are full of NRA sponsored loopholes...how can they not fail? Unless universal background checks are...welll...universal..they are token at best.

Also..we never will know if such things really work..s there are no stats kept..of he guy who looked for a gun...and was turned down..and did NOT kill someone,now are there?

Gun Owners of America | The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington

 

[Rustic]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

Frivouse gun control laws will not save a single soul… Commonsense says so

I'll bite..name me a non-frivolous gun control law? If they are all frivolous..then why make the distinction?

It ain’t broken so don’t fix it that’s what I’m saying, every retail sale Has to have a background check I run them every day.
It takes an average between two and four minutes to run a background check on somebody in my shop. Which is entirely too long, It should take seconds or less for them to walk out the door with their purchase.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that GOP support for gun control laws..universal background checks, banning large capacity magazines, Red Flag laws, etc. is on the wane? I would guess that this is in response to the Dems calls--the party is circling their wagons..while the vast majority of Americans support such measures..will this negatively impact the upcoming election?

Republican support for gun control dips since Parkland massacre: poll

"Republican support for gun control legislation has dropped since the deadly 2018 mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
GOP voters are now split on the issue, with 47 percent supporting stricter gun control laws and 45 percent opposing.
In the wake of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which left 17 people dead, 53 percent of Republicans supported legislation while 43 percent opposed it. Another survey at the time found that 57 percent of Republicans supported tougher gun measures — a record-high for the Morning Consult poll.
Across all political parties, the new poll found that 2 in 3 voters support stricter gun control legislation. This includes the vast majority — 89 percent — of Democrats and 60 percent of independents.
Pollsters also found that 28 percent of Republicans say they are "strongly" opposed, up 5 percentage points from the post-Parkland time period. Twenty percent said they "strongly support" such measures, down 5 points.
The new Morning Consult/Politico poll was conducted August 9-11 among 1,993 registered voters and has a margin-of-error of 2 percentage points."

Frivouse gun control laws will not save a single soul… Commonsense says so

I'll bite..name me a non-frivolous gun control law? If they are all frivolous..then why make the distinction?

It ain’t broken so don’t fix it that’s what I’m saying, every retail sale Has to have a background check I run them every day.
It takes an average between two and four minutes to run a background check on somebody in my shop. Which is entirely too long, It should take seconds or less for them to walk out the door with their purchase.

As long as i can go out to the parking lot..and buy a gun..with no paperwork and no background check....it's broke. If the law that requires you to conduct a retail background check is constitutional..than one that applies to private sales would be also.

 

[Old Man Grumbles]

Heck Rustic, I figured you'd like that 2 to 4 minutes waiting time - your customer may end up buying something else. I know I peruse the other merchandise while I wait.