Police State: Cop Drags Woman, 77, From Car After ID Refusal...

[Yurt]

if she had been black, truthmatters would have cried racism

true story

 

[Mad Scientist]

Where did Mad go? Maybe he's searching for a link to something that proves his asinine contention that police in Texas can't arrest people.

Come on back, Mad. Show us that link! I posted several already that prove you're a complete jackass, liar and hack. What you got to counter my links?
Dipshit.

I asked you to start a thread entitled "This is why Mad Scientist is the Dumbest Poster Here" and then link back to my statement. I know you saw it because you were on the list of "people viewing this thread" after I wrote it. The pussy is you.

First off, I said the Police in that city cannot give citationsunless that city has a population of 50,000 or a county has a population of 200,000. Texas State Law Title 37, Part 1, Chapter 4, Subchapter B, Rule §4.13:
http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=37&pt=1&ch=4&rl=13
Keen has a population far less than 50,000.
This is because the Police are supposed to be monitoring and regulating Commercial Traffic. You know, big rigs and other business related transportation?
http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=37&pt=1&ch=1&rl=2
Supervise means "watch". Regulate means "control and enforce laws and issue citations".

If you live in Texas and you get a ticket you can probably get out of it by citing these Laws. Why don't more people do it? Because they're lazy, they trust the Police too much, and they'd rather stay at home and watch MFL Footsbawl. (Or masturbate to Dr. Who videos. )

EDIT: I don't know why the links don't work. Here is the Texas State Code:
Secretary of State Site Index
Go to the following chapters under "Uniform Commercial Code" (Or would that be too much for you to handle?):

Title 37, Part 1, Chapter 1, Subchapter A, Rule §1.2 The DPS can only REGULATE commercial and "for hire" traffic.

Title 37, Part 1, Chapter 4, Subchapter B, Rule §4.13 – Subsection (a) population & location requirements, Subsection (b) training & cert. requirements.

Dumbass...




: Texas Administrative Code



You missed this one too...

: Texas Administrative Code

(a) Highway Patrol Service. The program of the Highway Patrol Service is "Police Traffic Supervision and General Law Enforcement on Rural Highways." This program consists of the following major activities:

(1) Police traffic supervision on rural highways:

(A) police traffic direction;

(B) police traffic accident investigation; and

(C) police traffic law enforcement and patrol.

(2) General police work--primarily on rural highways:

(A) criminal law enforcement;

(B) emergencies and disasters; and

(C) security activities.

: Texas Administrative Code

(a) Authority to Enforce.

(1) An officer of the department may stop, enter or detain on a highway or at a port of entry a motor vehicle that is subject to Texas Transportation Code, Chapter 644.

This last one is at the top for a reason, dumb ass.

You have a flawed interpretation of the statutes.

You just PWNED yourself!

Did you look at Texas Transportation Code 644? Of course you didn't! Here it is:
TRANSPORTATION CODE**CHAPTER 644. COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS

CHAPTER 644. COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS

Your Toyota Corolla is NOT a Commercial Vehicle.

 

[Conservative]

Search Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code statute code contents legal research Easy Law Lookup
Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code | Sec. 543.001. ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT AUTHORIZED. | Sec. 543.002. PERSON ARRESTED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. | Sec. 543.003. NOTICE TO APPEAR REQUIRED: PERSON NOT TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. EASY LAW LOOKU
Texas Laws | Transportation Code
TITLE 7. VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
SUBTITLE C. RULES OF THE ROAD

Any peace officer may arrest without warrant a person found committing a violation of this subtitle.

you violate the rules of the road, you can be arrested. end discussion.

 

[paulitician]

All she had to do was go to the bathroom.

And, she was 77 years old.

Lock Him up with a sensitivity training specialist for about 7 days running.

See if he ever whacks another little old lady to the ground who was just hurrying to get home to go potty.

He might feel different when it's his turn to wear a Depends. Some old people have to.

The cretin has no damn common sense. He shouldn't be a Police Officer. He's too much of a pussy. I mean, how many times have we all had to deal with a cranky elderly person? Did we all just freak and bitch out like this Cop did? No, we just dealt with it calmly and showed some common sense and compassion. He represents exactly what is wrong with our Police Force. All this militarized Gestapo training needs to end.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Search Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code statute code contents legal research Easy Law Lookup
Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code | Sec. 543.001. ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT AUTHORIZED. | Sec. 543.002. PERSON ARRESTED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. | Sec. 543.003. NOTICE TO APPEAR REQUIRED: PERSON NOT TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. EASY LAW LOOKU
Texas Laws | Transportation Code
TITLE 7. VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
SUBTITLE C. RULES OF THE ROAD

Any peace officer may arrest without warrant a person found committing a violation of this subtitle.

you violate the rules of the road, you can be arrested. end discussion.

No you won't.
The Officer MUST take you to a Magistrate. By YOU signing the ticket, you waive your right to see a Magistrate!

End of discussion!

 

[Conservative]

Search Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code statute code contents legal research Easy Law Lookup
Texas Law - Texas Laws Transportation Code | Sec. 543.001. ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT AUTHORIZED. | Sec. 543.002. PERSON ARRESTED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. | Sec. 543.003. NOTICE TO APPEAR REQUIRED: PERSON NOT TAKEN BEFORE MAGISTRATE. EASY LAW LOOKU
Texas Laws | Transportation Code
TITLE 7. VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
SUBTITLE C. RULES OF THE ROAD

Any peace officer may arrest without warrant a person found committing a violation of this subtitle.

you violate the rules of the road, you can be arrested. end discussion.

No you won't.
The Officer MUST take you to a Magistrate. By YOU signing the ticket, you waive your right to see a Magistrate!

End of discussion!

(a) A person arrested for a violation of this subtitle punishable as a misdemeanor shall be immediately taken before a magistrate if:

(1) the person is arrested on a charge of failure to stop in the event of an accident causing damage to property; or

(2) the person demands an immediate appearance before a magistrate or refuses to make a written promise to appear in court as provided by this subchapter.

you ask to be taken before a magistrate, or you refuse to sign the ticket.

In either case, the very first sentence in the section...

Any peace officer may arrest without warrant a person found committing a violation of this subtitle

...nullifies your asinine interpretation of Texas law. You CAN be arrested for traffic violations. There is NO STIPULATION as to population here.

Dumb ass.

BTW, show me where it says take to magistrate WITHOUT ARREST, or PRIOR TO ARREST.

 

[Mad Scientist]

BTW, show me where it says take to magistrate WITHOUT ARREST, or PRIOR TO ARREST.

The Officer is supposed to take you to a Magistrate to determine if the Officer cited you LAWFULLY! The Magistrate CAN release you if you were wrongfully arrested.
Texas Code of Criminal Procedure:

Art. 15.17. DUTIES OF ARRESTING OFFICER AND MAGISTRATE. (a) In each case enumerated in this Code, the person making the arrest or the person having custody of the person arrested shall without unnecessary delay, but not later than 48 hours after the person is arrested, take the person arrested or have him taken before some magistrate of the county where the accused was arrested or, to provide more expeditiously to the person arrested the warnings described by this article, before a magistrate in any other county of this state.

Plus you left out the small fact that the Act the Officer can Arrest for is a FELONY. I've already pointed out in this thread that Driving Without a License is a MISDEMEANOR with a fine of no more than $200.

The Officer CANNOT Arrest that woman just for that!

 

[Conservative]

BTW, show me where it says take to magistrate WITHOUT ARREST, or PRIOR TO ARREST.

The Officer is supposed to take you to a Magistrate to determine if the Officer cited you LAWFULLY! The Magistrate CAN release you if you were wrongfully arrested.

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure:

Art. 15.17. DUTIES OF ARRESTING OFFICER AND MAGISTRATE. (a) In each case enumerated in this Code, the person making the arrest or the person having custody of the person arrested shall without unnecessary delay, but not later than 48 hours after the person is arrested, take the person arrested or have him taken before some magistrate of the county where the accused was arrested or, to provide more expeditiously to the person arrested the warnings described by this article, before a magistrate in any other county of this state.

Plus you left out the small fact that the Act the Officer can Arrest for is a FELONY. I've already pointed out in this thread that Driving Without a License is a MISDEMEANOR with a fine of no more than $200.

The Officer CANNOT Arrest that woman just for that!

thank you for admitting you CAN be arrested by Texas law enforcement officials for traffic related offenses.

there is NOTHING in the link I provided that specifies arrest is only for felonies. FAIL on your part.

 

[Mad Scientist]

CONservative's hatred for me (a person whom he's never met) has blinded him to the facts. He joins an exclusive club that includes TM and rDean.

If you wanna' play nice with Cities, Counties and States that want to leech money off of you (because they're going broke) then by all means, go ahead. You know, because 9/11 convinced you that the Cops can do no wrong.

But the fact remains that when you sign that ticket you have waived your Right to see a Magistrate and have already pled Guilty. Good luck getting out of it after that.

All of you would be smart to learn the Laws of your State, County, City, Township, Borough where ever you live.

 

[ItsjustmeIthink]

I like this thread, lol.

Just about everyone is saying something along the lines of "the law is the law"

And paully-boy keeps on carrying on "BUT SHE WAS AN OLD LADIE!"

I didn't realize age exempts you from the law, I can't wait to get old if that's the case

 

[Noomi]

I like this thread, lol.

Just about everyone is saying something along the lines of "the law is the law"

And paully-boy keeps on carrying on "BUT SHE WAS AN OLD LADIE!"

I didn't realize age exempts you from the law, I can't wait to get old if that's the case

You would be surprised by how many people think old people should be treated differently from other criminals.

 

[Mad Scientist]

BTW, show me where it says take to magistrate WITHOUT ARREST, or PRIOR TO ARREST.

The Officer is supposed to take you to a Magistrate to determine if the Officer cited you LAWFULLY! The Magistrate CAN release you if you were wrongfully arrested.

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure:

Art. 15.17. DUTIES OF ARRESTING OFFICER AND MAGISTRATE. (a) In each case enumerated in this Code, the person making the arrest or the person having custody of the person arrested shall without unnecessary delay, but not later than 48 hours after the person is arrested, take the person arrested or have him taken before some magistrate of the county where the accused was arrested or, to provide more expeditiously to the person arrested the warnings described by this article, before a magistrate in any other county of this state.

Plus you left out the small fact that the Act the Officer can Arrest for is a FELONY. I've already pointed out in this thread that Driving Without a License is a MISDEMEANOR with a fine of no more than $200.

The Officer CANNOT Arrest that woman just for that!

thank you for admitting you CAN be arrested by Texas law enforcement officials for traffic related offenses.

there is NOTHING in the link I provided that specifies arrest is only for felonies. FAIL on your part.

No, the "Mad says Cops can't arrest anyone!" is the strawman argument you pinheds throw out there because you have no clue.

I SAID at the beginning of this thread, that the Officer CANNOT arrest that woman just for not having a License, that is merely a Misdemeanor.

He can, if it's a Felony!
CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE**CHAPTER 14. ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT

Art. 14.01. OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW. (a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant, arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as an offense against the public peace.

Unless we live in Nazi Germany, not showing your license is NOT an offense against the public peace.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I like this thread, lol.

Just about everyone is saying something along the lines of "the law is the law"

And paully-boy keeps on carrying on "BUT SHE WAS AN OLD LADIE!"

I didn't realize age exempts you from the law, I can't wait to get old if that's the case

You would be surprised by how many people think old people should be treated differently from other criminals.

Being old is a crime now?

 

[Noomi]

I like this thread, lol.

Just about everyone is saying something along the lines of "the law is the law"

And paully-boy keeps on carrying on "BUT SHE WAS AN OLD LADIE!"

I didn't realize age exempts you from the law, I can't wait to get old if that's the case

You would be surprised by how many people think old people should be treated differently from other criminals.

Being old is a crime now?

No - my wording was wrong! Old people who commit crimes, is what I was getting at.

 

[Conservative]

CONservative's hatred for me (a person whom he's never met) has blinded him to the facts. He joins an exclusive club that includes TM and rDean.

If you wanna' play nice with Cities, Counties and States that want to leech money off of you (because they're going broke) then by all means, go ahead. You know, because 9/11 convinced you that the Cops can do no wrong.

But the fact remains that when you sign that ticket you have waived your Right to see a Magistrate and have already pled Guilty. Good luck getting out of it after that.

All of you would be smart to learn the Laws of your State, County, City, Township, Borough where ever you live.

you continually morph your point. First, it was 'Texas cops cannot arrest you unless...', then when I proved you wrong it's suddenly become 'it has to be felony for them to arrest you', which my link disproves as well. THEN, you switch to 'they have to take you to a magistratet to determine if the arrest was legit...'which is simply further capitulation by you that the Texas police CAN arrest you.

Now you flop over to 'when you sign that ticket you have waived your Right to see a Magistrate and have already pled Guilty', which is patently false.

Here's me yet again proving you're full of shit...
http://www.txtraffictickets.com/faqs.htm#e

Is signing the ticket an admission of guilt?


No, it's just your acknowledgment of receipt of the notice to appear. Because you are actually being charged with a violation of law, the officer could take you into custody if you refuse to sign the ticket. But, by signing the traffic ticket, you avoid being taken into custody and are actually released on your own recognizance pending the court date. It's in your best interest to sign the ticket, so you remain free and retain your right to show up at the court hearing to dispute it or otherwise resolve the matter.

dumb ass.

 

[Conservative]

The Officer is supposed to take you to a Magistrate to determine if the Officer cited you LAWFULLY! The Magistrate CAN release you if you were wrongfully arrested.

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure:
Plus you left out the small fact that the Act the Officer can Arrest for is a FELONY. I've already pointed out in this thread that Driving Without a License is a MISDEMEANOR with a fine of no more than $200.

The Officer CANNOT Arrest that woman just for that!

thank you for admitting you CAN be arrested by Texas law enforcement officials for traffic related offenses.

there is NOTHING in the link I provided that specifies arrest is only for felonies. FAIL on your part.

No, the "Mad says Cops can't arrest anyone!" is the strawman argument you pinheds throw out there because you have no clue.

I SAID at the beginning of this thread, that the Officer CANNOT arrest that woman just for not having a License, that is merely a Misdemeanor.

He can, if it's a Felony!
CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE**CHAPTER 14. ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT

Art. 14.01. OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW. (a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant, arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as an offense against the public peace.

Unless we live in Nazi Germany, not showing your license is NOT an offense against the public peace.

not from traffic codes, dumb ass. nice try.

 

[strollingbones]

it was a big 17 sec from the time he ask for id...till he put his hands on her.....

i am simply amazed that people who scream about their rights blah blah fucking blah and the constitution blah blah fucking blah .....think this is okay behavior for a police man

 

[Mad Scientist]

Let's revue:
I said Cops in Texas can't write tickets unless the city has a population of 50,000 or the county population is 200,000. I cited appropriate Texas Law.

I said Texas Cops can't arrest someone for just having an expired license and cited the proper law.

No one has reputed that.

In fact, all that's been written is "Mad says Cops can't arrest anyone" which is b.s., I NEVER said that.

Listen. If because of 9/11 you wanna' suck Law Enforcement c*ck then be my guest. If you wanna' support failing cities and municipalities with your ticket money then by all means do so.

Not me. I happen to know the Law and how it's being implemented incorrectly. Too many of you out there know more about your favorite Sports Team (or Dr. Who) than the Law and are proud of it.

I know that DUI checkpoints are illegal so I know how to get out of them. NO that doesn't mean I drive drunk, it means I don't allow the Police to illegally stop and search me.

I can understand ignorant Liberals loving the oppression, but it's really disappointing to see so called Conservatives not recognizing it.

 

[bodecea]

Nice how Police treat our eldery huh? Imagine this being your Grandmother? 'To protect and Serve?' Yeah, i think most Americans just laugh at that thought nowadays. Most of our Police Force is made up of roided-up power-mad assholes. We need revolutionary change in how our Police are trained.


Texas Cop Drags 77-year-old Grandmother from Car - YouTube

Texas again.

 

[P@triot]

Let's revue:
I said Cops in Texas can't write tickets unless the city has a population of 50,000 or the county population is 200,000. I cited appropriate Texas Law.

I said Texas Cops can't arrest someone for just having an expired license and cited the proper law.

No one has reputed that.

In fact, all that's been written is "Mad says Cops can't arrest anyone" which is b.s., I NEVER said that.

Listen. If because of 9/11 you wanna' suck Law Enforcement c*ck then be my guest. If you wanna' support failing cities and municipalities with your ticket money then by all means do so.

Not me. I happen to know the Law and how it's being implemented incorrectly. Too many of you out there know more about your favorite Sports Team (or Dr. Who) than the Law and are proud of it.

I know that DUI checkpoints are illegal so I know how to get out of them. NO that doesn't mean I drive drunk, it means I don't allow the Police to illegally stop and search me.

I can understand ignorant Liberals loving the oppression, but it's really disappointing to see so called Conservatives not recognizing it.

You're a big bard ass anarchist. We're all sooooo impressed with you rebel without a clue cause and your "fuck the police" attitude.

But you're an ignorant fucking tool who has NO CLUE about the law in any capacity. You 17 year old "rebels" are always entertaining.