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And what does all these guns get us?
Yes NYC has very strong gun control. Our murder rate would go down if the country had the same laws as NYC.London's murder rate surpasses New York's for 1st time everMore lives would have been saved if all he had was a derringer obviously.And if he had a derringer, few would have died. But since he had so much firepower, many died and hundreds were injured.No.... he had a tactical advantage and surprise against unarmed, tightly packed victims....
And had the police entered the room more lives would have been saved.
And how many people die from mass shootings a year...about 75.
How many times are guns used to stop violent rapes, robberies and murders each year...2.4 million.
Which number is bigger?
Our homicide rates is 4-5X that of countries with strong gun control.
NYC has less guns than London?NYC has very strong gun control. They have even kept out concealed carry. Meanwhile violent crime has been up where we allow carry.Is that why Lonon has a higher murder rate than NYC, more guns?Yes, too many guns increases crime. Our police are often shot so they shoot a lot of people themselves. This leads to unrest and crime. Too many guns is the cause, these things don't happen where there is strong gun control.Murders up since 2015:You mention Dallas...which is in Texas....where law abiding gun owners have lots of guns......
ICYMI: CNN Went Off On Texas' Open Carry Law During Their Dallas Shooting Coverage
Texas, especially Dallas, has seen their crime rates hit record lows. In Dallas, the murder rate fell to its lowest levels since the city started taking crime data in 1930. Overall, the Lone Star State, through criminal justice reform, has reduced crime levels to their lowest rates since 1968 (via Dallas Morning News):
Dallas’ 2014 murder rate was its lowest since 1930 — the year Bonnie and Clyde met at a West Dallas house party.
And the Dallas Police Department’s preliminary count of 116 murders last year — there is one unexplained death awaiting a ruling — would be the lowest yearly murder tally since 1965. It’s also a notable drop from the 143 murders in 2013 and it’s fewer than half the murders recorded in 2004.
Police officials say their crime-fighting and crime-prevention strategies have played a major role in reducing homicides, the rarest of major crimes. Others say outside variables — medical advancements, changing demographics and better social services — deserve much of the credit.
Even with this dreadful shooting in Dallas, the city has only seen one other shooting involving police officers, and that didn’t result in a fatality on either side. The crime rate in Texas is still dropping too (via Texas Tribune):
Urban crime rates are at historic lows across the country, and in Texas they are still dropping, according to an analysis of crime rates in the 30 largest U.S cities.
Between 2014 and 2015, the five largest cities in Texas saw an average drop of 6.5 percent in the overall crime rate per 100,000 residents, according to the analysis by the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law. Among the nation’s top cities, crime rates remained stagnant during this time, dropping by only 0.1 percent.
With an almost 10 percent drop in its crime rate, Austin saw the sharpest decrease in Texas and the nation.
166 murders: The heartbreaking year that shattered these Dallas families
Yes.....we know, because President Obama and Black Lives Matter attacked our police on a national level.....that created the Ferguson Effect...... where the police stopped Pro active policing, and allowed gang members to do their business without interference....those murders are on you and obama...and Black Lives Matter...
Hard Data, Hollow Protests
The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.
Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.
Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.
Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
And more on the Ferguson effect...
Homicide Rate Is Rising? Do Tell!
While not trying to ascribe a cause, CNN does acknowledge that the uptick beginning in 2015 has been concentrated in a handful of cities.
Steve Sailer draws the obvious conclusion:
Hmmhmmmh … Chicago, Baltimore, and St. Louis … Weren’t those in the news? Something to do with Black Lives Matter?
The obvious cause for the increase in murders during the last years of the Obama administration was the Black Lives Matter movement, which was enthusiastically endorsed by the White House. It led to numerous unfair attacks on law enforcement, which in turn caused officers to police less aggressively. When police officers are afraid to do their jobs for fear of career-ending charges of racism, criminals prosper. Baltimore is the most notorious example, but the same phenomenon has happened in other cities where law enforcement has been besieged by the Left.
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Does that have anything to do with the recent spike in homicides? Were carry laws loosened in Chicago, Baltimore, Kansas City or St. Louis prior to the increase? Are the states where murders spiked after 2014 the ones where the law permitted residents to “carry a loaded concealed gun with you…with no license”?
No. What did change in the last years of the Obama administration? The obvious answer is, the Black Lives Matter movement and the associated attacks on law enforcement.
No it is quite accurate.One example of many. Please link the studies you claim exist.AURORA, Colo. – Police confirmed Monday afternoon that the man they shot and killed early Monday morning is believed to have shot and killed another man who had broken into his home minutes earlier.
“Officers arrived to a very chaotic and violent scene,” Aurora Police Chief Nick Metz wrote in a news release issued Monday afternoon.
Metz said officers who arrived at the scene heard gunshots inside the home and ran into an armed man. An officer shot the man, who died at an area hospital.
After clearing the scene, according to Metz, officers found a juvenile injured inside and a man shot dead on the bathroom floor. The child was taken to a hospital for “serious, but non-life-threatening injuries” caused by the intruder, he said.
Both men’s identities will be released by the Adams County Coroner’s Office, Metz said. The officer who shot the resident of the home is on standard paid administrative leave.
Police: Man killed in home by Aurora PD Monday morning had fatally shot intruder minutes earlier
A sad incident. But it really shows what happens when too many people are armed. Imagine police responding to a mass shooting with lots of armed individuals.
There are 600 million guns in private hands. 17 million people carry guns for self defense.
According to the CDC 2.4 million times a year Americans use their guns to stop rape, robbery and murder.
According to the Department of Justice, they believe that number is 1.5 million times a year.
And you found one case where the confusion results in a death...
And you think that is an intelligent post?
If there is so much defending going on, why is our homicide rate 4-5X that of countries with strong gun control?
It isn’t that’s just a lie.
Homicide rates by country:
US: 5.35
UK: 1.2
Japan: .28
Germany: .88
France: 1.23
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia
We already have carnage suzie. We have so many armed criminals, because there is guns everywhere. Crime has not gone down with concealed carry, it has just ensured more criminals carry also.And what does all these guns get us?
Here’s the deal Lucile, if you banned guns you would only be disarming the law abiding citizens and emboldening the criminals. Carnage would ensue.
Yes it declined after Bill Clinton passed some gun control. You can thank background checks.And what does all these guns get us?
Well...since Americans use their guns 2.5 million times a year to stop rape, robbery and murder....that would be 2.5 million fewer Americans who have had their lives destroyed by criminals released into society by democrats...
Oh, and a lower gun murder rate, a lower gun crime rate and a lower violent crime rate..
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
NYC has strong gun control.NYC has less guns than London?NYC has very strong gun control. They have even kept out concealed carry. Meanwhile violent crime has been up where we allow carry.Is that why Lonon has a higher murder rate than NYC, more guns?Yes, too many guns increases crime. Our police are often shot so they shoot a lot of people themselves. This leads to unrest and crime. Too many guns is the cause, these things don't happen where there is strong gun control.Murders up since 2015:
166 murders: The heartbreaking year that shattered these Dallas families
Yes.....we know, because President Obama and Black Lives Matter attacked our police on a national level.....that created the Ferguson Effect...... where the police stopped Pro active policing, and allowed gang members to do their business without interference....those murders are on you and obama...and Black Lives Matter...
Hard Data, Hollow Protests
The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.
Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.
Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.
Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
And more on the Ferguson effect...
Homicide Rate Is Rising? Do Tell!
While not trying to ascribe a cause, CNN does acknowledge that the uptick beginning in 2015 has been concentrated in a handful of cities.
Steve Sailer draws the obvious conclusion:
Hmmhmmmh … Chicago, Baltimore, and St. Louis … Weren’t those in the news? Something to do with Black Lives Matter?
The obvious cause for the increase in murders during the last years of the Obama administration was the Black Lives Matter movement, which was enthusiastically endorsed by the White House. It led to numerous unfair attacks on law enforcement, which in turn caused officers to police less aggressively. When police officers are afraid to do their jobs for fear of career-ending charges of racism, criminals prosper. Baltimore is the most notorious example, but the same phenomenon has happened in other cities where law enforcement has been besieged by the Left.
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Does that have anything to do with the recent spike in homicides? Were carry laws loosened in Chicago, Baltimore, Kansas City or St. Louis prior to the increase? Are the states where murders spiked after 2014 the ones where the law permitted residents to “carry a loaded concealed gun with you…with no license”?
No. What did change in the last years of the Obama administration? The obvious answer is, the Black Lives Matter movement and the associated attacks on law enforcement.
Where do you get your info from?
1993 we got background checks. Crime went down right after. Thank you gun control!Yes it declined after Bill Clinton passed some gun control. You can thank background checks.And what does all these guns get us?
Well...since Americans use their guns 2.5 million times a year to stop rape, robbery and murder....that would be 2.5 million fewer Americans who have had their lives destroyed by criminals released into society by democrats...
Oh, and a lower gun murder rate, a lower gun crime rate and a lower violent crime rate..
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
No....bill clinton locked up violent criminals because they had to...they passed 3 strikes your out laws and locked up violent criminals...
And you have to sneak past the fact that as the crime rate dropped, more Americans were buying and carrying guns...showing that our entire argument that more guns mean more crime is a lie.....it is not based in truth, facts or reality.
We already have carnage suzie. We have so many armed criminals, because there is guns everywhere. Crime has not gone down with concealed carry, it has just ensured more criminals carry also.And what does all these guns get us?
Here’s the deal Lucile, if you banned guns you would only be disarming the law abiding citizens and emboldening the criminals. Carnage would ensue.
And all the open carry guys at that march ran screaming like little girls.He killed 5 armed officers and injured 9 other armed officers. Yes the victims were all very ARMED.Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Here is a bunch of armed victims:A sad incident. But it really shows what happens when too many people are armed. Imagine police responding to a mass shooting with lots of armed individuals.
It shows what happens when you get cops involved entering a situation where they don't know a thing going on and just shoot anyone with a gun even if it's not pointed at them. Things were under control until police arrived. Lastly, if you had a lot of armed individuals, you wouldn't have a mass shooting in the first place; there has never been a single mass shooting where it wasn't just one armed assailant against a bunch of UNARMED people. If everyone were actually armed, the attacker never would have attacked, but even if he did, they would all be shooting back at ONE THING: the attacker.
As for the police, Parkland has shown they'd just wait outside smoking cigarettes waiting for a SWAT team to arrive. Guns save lives. Police shoot wantonly because they have no accountability.
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers - Wikipedia
On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others. Two civilians were also wounded.
And you have been beaten on this one over and over.
The man attacked from an ambush with surprise..... he was quickly cornered and contained...
What you don't want to talk about is that there were dozens of armed citizens in that march. Many had AR-15 rifles on their shoulders during that march and when the attack happened, the police did not shoot them, they did not shoot the police, the armed citizens moved out of the way and let the Black Lives Matter shooter be dealt with by the police..
So you just negated your original post..... a mass public shooting, with dozens of armed citizens, many with AR-15 rifles, and no law abiding gun owner was shot by mistake.....
Criminals will carry regardless of concealed carry laws you idiotWe already have carnage suzie. We have so many armed criminals, because there is guns everywhere. Crime has not gone down with concealed carry, it has just ensured more criminals carry also.And what does all these guns get us?
Here’s the deal Lucile, if you banned guns you would only be disarming the law abiding citizens and emboldening the criminals. Carnage would ensue.
1993 we got background checks. Crime went down right after. Thank you gun control!Yes it declined after Bill Clinton passed some gun control. You can thank background checks.And what does all these guns get us?
Well...since Americans use their guns 2.5 million times a year to stop rape, robbery and murder....that would be 2.5 million fewer Americans who have had their lives destroyed by criminals released into society by democrats...
Oh, and a lower gun murder rate, a lower gun crime rate and a lower violent crime rate..
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
No....bill clinton locked up violent criminals because they had to...they passed 3 strikes your out laws and locked up violent criminals...
And you have to sneak past the fact that as the crime rate dropped, more Americans were buying and carrying guns...showing that our entire argument that more guns mean more crime is a lie.....it is not based in truth, facts or reality.
Is there a border wall at the city limits?NYC has strong gun control.NYC has less guns than London?NYC has very strong gun control. They have even kept out concealed carry. Meanwhile violent crime has been up where we allow carry.Is that why Lonon has a higher murder rate than NYC, more guns?Yes, too many guns increases crime. Our police are often shot so they shoot a lot of people themselves. This leads to unrest and crime. Too many guns is the cause, these things don't happen where there is strong gun control.Yes.....we know, because President Obama and Black Lives Matter attacked our police on a national level.....that created the Ferguson Effect...... where the police stopped Pro active policing, and allowed gang members to do their business without interference....those murders are on you and obama...and Black Lives Matter...
Hard Data, Hollow Protests
The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.
Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.
Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.
Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
And more on the Ferguson effect...
Homicide Rate Is Rising? Do Tell!
While not trying to ascribe a cause, CNN does acknowledge that the uptick beginning in 2015 has been concentrated in a handful of cities.
Steve Sailer draws the obvious conclusion:
Hmmhmmmh … Chicago, Baltimore, and St. Louis … Weren’t those in the news? Something to do with Black Lives Matter?
The obvious cause for the increase in murders during the last years of the Obama administration was the Black Lives Matter movement, which was enthusiastically endorsed by the White House. It led to numerous unfair attacks on law enforcement, which in turn caused officers to police less aggressively. When police officers are afraid to do their jobs for fear of career-ending charges of racism, criminals prosper. Baltimore is the most notorious example, but the same phenomenon has happened in other cities where law enforcement has been besieged by the Left.
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Does that have anything to do with the recent spike in homicides? Were carry laws loosened in Chicago, Baltimore, Kansas City or St. Louis prior to the increase? Are the states where murders spiked after 2014 the ones where the law permitted residents to “carry a loaded concealed gun with you…with no license”?
No. What did change in the last years of the Obama administration? The obvious answer is, the Black Lives Matter movement and the associated attacks on law enforcement.
Where do you get your info from?
Knowing that victims may be armed is quite an incentive for criminals themselves to be armed. And that's what we have seen, hence why violent crime has increased with more carry.Criminals will carry regardless of concealed carry laws you idiotWe already have carnage suzie. We have so many armed criminals, because there is guns everywhere. Crime has not gone down with concealed carry, it has just ensured more criminals carry also.And what does all these guns get us?
Here’s the deal Lucile, if you banned guns you would only be disarming the law abiding citizens and emboldening the criminals. Carnage would ensue.
Chicago has concealed carry....
Our homicide rate is 4-5X that of countries with strong gun control. I don't understand how you can sleep at night pushing so much death.1993 we got background checks. Crime went down right after. Thank you gun control!Yes it declined after Bill Clinton passed some gun control. You can thank background checks.And what does all these guns get us?
Well...since Americans use their guns 2.5 million times a year to stop rape, robbery and murder....that would be 2.5 million fewer Americans who have had their lives destroyed by criminals released into society by democrats...
Oh, and a lower gun murder rate, a lower gun crime rate and a lower violent crime rate..
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
No....bill clinton locked up violent criminals because they had to...they passed 3 strikes your out laws and locked up violent criminals...
And you have to sneak past the fact that as the crime rate dropped, more Americans were buying and carrying guns...showing that our entire argument that more guns mean more crime is a lie.....it is not based in truth, facts or reality.
Criminals don't do background checks..... you really need to put down the bottle and the pills and get help.
Knowing that victims may be armed is quite an incentive for criminals themselves to be armed. And that's what we have seen, hence why violent crime has increased with more carry.Criminals will carry regardless of concealed carry laws you idiotWe already have carnage suzie. We have so many armed criminals, because there is guns everywhere. Crime has not gone down with concealed carry, it has just ensured more criminals carry also.And what does all these guns get us?
Here’s the deal Lucile, if you banned guns you would only be disarming the law abiding citizens and emboldening the criminals. Carnage would ensue.
Yes, U.S. locks people up at a higher rate than any other countryChicago has concealed carry....
And so does the rest of the country..... Chicago lets repeat gun offenders out of jail in a revolving door policy...
Police chiefs plot new strategies against gun violence and mass shootings
“For the first six months [after the law making gun possession a felony passed], we could not find a gun out on the street. But it actually takes three times for them to be treated like a felon” by Chicago’s courts, where judges and prosecutors were reducing gun charges to misdemeanors, and the word quickly spread.
Soon, it was back to violent business as usual.
