PM to Abbas

[Phoenall]

He's going to work tirelessly for peace while he gives the okay to have settlement activity continue?

Everything he said was empty rhetoric.

What would you say to the palestinians if they demanded that the US stops building houses in the USA for Americans to live in. Because that is exactly what the Israeli's are doing, unless you subscribe to the idea that international law does not apply to the Jews and they are not protected by the UN charter and international treaties signed in good faith

 

[Challenger]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?

Absolutely. The "simple fact" is that this is just emotive propaganda for the gullable American audience. No challenge there at all.

 

[Phoenall]

MisterBeale Every time the Palestinians ever agreed for "peace talks" They had their list of demands which they don't get to dictate but for the sake of good will Israel fulfilled time and again, including the release of terrorists (many with blood on their hands) just to discuss peace-
Most of those terrorists returned to their habit and some even murdered and even worse - None of these talks were fruitful, all canceled by the Palestinians(Abbas) after Israel fulfilled the terms-
Do you see where I'm going here? Palestinians want peace? They better earn it, with this rate we had to stop obeying their little ego games because we wouldnt have any more innocents civilians blood screaming from their fresh grave about the Palestinians carelessness for life, this really piss me off.

In time, the Anglo-American Empire will not be able to continue business as usual. It is already starting to come to a head if you follow Deep Politics.

That is the impetus of this message from this war hawk.

He is in some seriously dire straights, and not from pressure being put onto him from the PA. It is from pressure being put onto him from the international community and domestically.

When the US and western economic infrastructure crumble, and Israel is on it's own, it will have two choices, live in peace and equity with it's neighbors, or the Samson option.



If you TRULY believe the propaganda you have been digesting, if you truly believe this has been a one sided conflict and that there is no aggressive, selfish, diabolical interests that have been self-serving on the side of that Zionists for the past 80 years, then you will shed no tears when they take that Samson option.

We will have far bigger problems here in the States, and by that time, most Americans will not care that the whole damned place will go up in a fire ball. . . seriously.


It's their problem, not ours.


They must give the land back or, eventually, everyone out there will all die. It is as simple as that.


The US has bigger problems.

Why do you always blame the anglo americans for the failures of the arab muslims to reach any form od deal with the Jews. The fact of the matter is the arab muslims talk the talk but refuse to walk the walk and so end up with even less the next time round. Nothing at all to do with the anglo americans who have no dealings with the peace talks other than to give the parties a neutral venue.


Yes I agree the arab muslims MUST give the land back and follow the international law they accepted in 1923.

 

[Phoenall]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

The Palestinians have been going backwards for 20 years. They don't need any more fake peace talks.

 

[Phoenall]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

The Palestinians have been going backwards for 20 years. They don't need any more fake peace talks.

Then they should stop and try and do what they promised in 1988, if they cant the UN should evict them and leave them with no way out.

 

[Phoenall]

Five steps to peace.

1. Stop terrorism.
2. Stop trying to kill Jews using terrorism.
3. Stop inciting people to kill Jews as terrorism.
4. Stop terrorism.
5. Oh yeah, and stop terrorism.


Meanwhile, a poster attempts to make a moral equivalence by saying that the obstacle to peace is Jewish "settlements". In other words that the obstacle to peace is Jewish people living where they are not supposed to. In other words, the mere presence of Jewish people is the reason there can be no peace. In other words, the only way to have peace is for certain lands to be cleansed of the Jewish people.

Wow. sarcasm The Jewish people have never experienced THAT before. /sarcasm.

And, to bring the point home, shall Israel demand the same? That no Arabs should live in Israel? That the presence of Arabs living in Jerusalem and in Israel is the obstacle to peace and that Israel must be cleansed of them? (And no, I am not saying that we should do that. Nor are the Jewish people. Nor is the Israeli people or the Israeli government).



And then, said poster, begs us not to fund the killing of Gazan children. On a post which is, at its essence, demanding that Palestinians stop killing Jews. It is a reversal of cause and effect. It is reversal of the truth. Its a clear demonstration that many posters, and many people, are not arguing clear, objective ideas -- but arguing against an entire people.

The problem being that the international law of 1923 that gave the palestinians trans Jordan and at the same time allowed them to make the land Jew free also allowed the Jews to make Israel muslim free. So why do the arab muslims only accept their half of the treaty while denying the Jews the same ?

 

[Phoenall]

Five steps to peace.

1. Stop terrorism.
2. Stop trying to kill Jews using terrorism.
3. Stop inciting people to kill Jews as terrorism.
4. Stop terrorism.
5. Oh yeah, and stop terrorism.


Meanwhile, a poster attempts to make a moral equivalence by saying that the obstacle to peace is Jewish "settlements". In other words that the obstacle to peace is Jewish people living where they are not supposed to. In other words, the mere presence of Jewish people is the reason there can be no peace. In other words, the only way to have peace is for certain lands to be cleansed of the Jewish people.

Wow. sarcasm The Jewish people have never experienced THAT before. /sarcasm.

And, to bring the point home, shall Israel demand the same? That no Arabs should live in Israel? That the presence of Arabs living in Jerusalem and in Israel is the obstacle to peace and that Israel must be cleansed of them? (And no, I am not saying that we should do that. Nor are the Jewish people. Nor is the Israeli people or the Israeli government).



And then, said poster, begs us not to fund the killing of Gazan children. On a post which is, at its essence, demanding that Palestinians stop killing Jews. It is a reversal of cause and effect. It is reversal of the truth. Its a clear demonstration that many posters, and many people, are not arguing clear, objective ideas -- but arguing against an entire people.

You have a very strange way of looking at segregation, racism and oppression.

Then it is about time the world did something about the muslims that are the practioners of all 3 in the M.E. The Jews have no segregation, Racism or oppresion inside the borders of Israel, and only face it when they go outside these borders.

 

[Phoenall]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

But only if you live in rat boys fantasy world where the Jews have no support from international laws or the UN charter and are free game at any time

 

[Phoenall]

Neither should war criminals.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza case studies: Weapons use

And the only named war criminals happen to be the palestinians who fire illegal weapons into Israel every day. The ICC/ICJ have stated that Israel has no case to answer in regards to war crimes, and that should be the end of nazis like yourself making these claims.

 

[Phoenall]

The Israeli government actively supports terrorism. So does the US government. No one's hands are clean here.

If you think they are, you haven't done your research and know nothing about the Deep State.

Both the US, and Israel fund the M.E.K. By the State dept. own def., that is terrorism.

How about LINKs from unbiased and non partisan source then, a failuire to do so shows that you are just your garden nazi racist

 

[aris2chat]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

 

[aris2chat]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?

Abbas speaks english

 

[Challenger]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Erm, two different messages.

 

[Challenger]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?

Abbas speaks english

Pity Nutandyahoo doesn't speak Arabic, then. If this was a serious attempt, he wouldn't be granstanding on television.

 

[Phoenall]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?

Abbas speaks english

Pity Nutandyahoo doesn't speak Arabic, then. If this was a serious attempt, he wouldn't be granstanding on television.

And when was the last serious attempt at peace starting from a blank sheet from the palestinians ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Nutandyahoo is full of shit as usual. He states that Arab democracy will bring peace.

What about the Palestinian elections judged free and fair by all international monitors. A government based on a constitution very similar to that in the US. (It was written with the assistance of US constitutional scholars.) A government that included Muslims and Christians, included men and women. A government that included virtually every political party and independents.

It was the model democracy in the ME.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?

Abbas speaks english

Pity Nutandyahoo doesn't speak Arabic, then. If this was a serious attempt, he wouldn't be granstanding on television.

And when was the last serious attempt at peace starting from a blank sheet from the palestinians ?

Israel has too many preconditions.

 

[Shusha]

Israel has too many preconditions? Please share. The only "precondition" Netanyahoo speaks of in this message is to stop inciting and committing terrorism. And that is hardly a precondition. That is just the underlying concept of peace.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has too many preconditions? Please share. The only "precondition" Netanyahoo speaks of in this message is to stop inciting and committing terrorism. And that is hardly a precondition.

Why do you post here with so little knowledge?

 

[Shusha]

Why do you post here with so little knowledge?

Gimme a break. You got nothing then, huh?