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Those can go along with control and emotional abuse, but I think you're trying to give reasons why women would falsely claim they were "abused," aren't you? DV is nothing to joke about.Abused = physical violence, terrorizing, extreme control etc.
Or it could be the husband saying cruel things, refusing to increase her weekly allowance, cutting up her credit cards, etc. .....
No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Atheists have no concept of the power of prayer
Maybe if god got off his ass and did anything such would change? You can pray all you want or you can get the fuck out from under an asshole. Your choice.
You seem to have some issues going on....you should pray on that
You mean reality.
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Atheists have no concept of the power of prayer
Maybe if god got off his ass and did anything such would change? You can pray all you want or you can get the fuck out from under an asshole. Your choice.
You seem to have some issues going on....you should pray on that
You mean reality.
You and reality have never crossed paths
If more women would be obedient to their husbands.Those can go along with control and emotional abuse, but I think you're trying to give reasons why women would falsely claim they were "abused," aren't you? DV is nothing to joke about.
You're not a wife beater, are you? Because if you were, you would know that isn't true. It's either about control of the partner or just "taking it out" on her when things go wrong. Most abused women walk on egg shells and are as submissive as they know how. No one likes getting beat up. Or threatened with a knife or raped.If more women would be submissive to their husbands.Those can go along with control and emotional abuse, but I think you're trying to give reasons why women would falsely claim they were "abused," aren't you? DV is nothing to joke about.
The instances of DV would be greatly reduced. ....
You're not a wife beater, are you? Because if you were, you would know that isn't true. It's either about control of the partner or just "taking it out" on her when things go wrong. Most abused women walk on egg shells and are as submissive as they know how. No one likes getting beat up. Or threatened with a knife or raped.
What an odd thing to think. If that happened to someone you know, it doesn't automatically let you jump to the conclusion that half the women claiming abuse are lying, though.You're not a wife beater, are you? Because if you were, you would know that isn't true. It's either about control of the partner or just "taking it out" on her when things go wrong. Most abused women walk on egg shells and are as submissive as they know how. No one likes getting beat up. Or threatened with a knife or raped.
In my opinion, half the women who claim abuse are lying.
They just do not want to remain married.
And using the charge of abuse get's everyone on their side. .....
I've seen several women lying about DV just to get out of a marriage.What an odd thing to think. If that happened to someone you know, it doesn't automatically let you jump to the conclusion that half the women claiming abuse are lying, though.
Huh. I've not run into that. It's so easy to get a divorce these days that no woman has to offer that excuse anymore. Not if you live in the states, anyway.I've seen several women lying about DV just to get out of a marriage.What an odd thing to think. If that happened to someone you know, it doesn't automatically let you jump to the conclusion that half the women claiming abuse are lying, though.
All a women has to do is claim "abuse" and the courts and judges rush to her side.
And the guy is automatically guilty. ....
No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminary after he was widely criticized for saying that women who are abused by their husbands should pray for them and that women should “be submissive in every way that you can.”
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the board of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had voted to remove the leader, Paige Patterson, as the leader of the Forth Worth, Texas, institution.
“After much prayer and a more than 13-hour discussion regarding challenges facing the institution, including those of enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity, the Board determined to move in the direction of new leadership,” the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary board said in a statement on Tuesday.
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A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminar
Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
Just how sick can religion GET?
So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Women don't want to be seen as the person who broke up the marriage.Huh. I've not run into that. It's so easy to get a divorce these days that no woman has to offer that excuse anymore. Not if you live in the states, anyway.
Prayer has made a huge difference in stopping school shootings. Think about it.No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminary after he was widely criticized for saying that women who are abused by their husbands should pray for them and that women should “be submissive in every way that you can.”
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the board of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had voted to remove the leader, Paige Patterson, as the leader of the Forth Worth, Texas, institution.
“After much prayer and a more than 13-hour discussion regarding challenges facing the institution, including those of enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity, the Board determined to move in the direction of new leadership,” the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary board said in a statement on Tuesday.
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A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminar
Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
Just how sick can religion GET?
So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
Like I said, I haven't run into that. Interesting crowd you run with, Sunni.Women don't want to be seen as the person who broke up the marriage.Huh. I've not run into that. It's so easy to get a divorce these days that no woman has to offer that excuse anymore. Not if you live in the states, anyway.
So they claim abuse.
That way the man is seen as the bad guy, and everyone is on her side. ....
The people I hang around with aren't the people I'm talking about. ....Like I said, I haven't run into that. Interesting crowd you run with, Sunni.
No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminary after he was widely criticized for saying that women who are abused by their husbands should pray for them and that women should “be submissive in every way that you can.”
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the board of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had voted to remove the leader, Paige Patterson, as the leader of the Forth Worth, Texas, institution.
“After much prayer and a more than 13-hour discussion regarding challenges facing the institution, including those of enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity, the Board determined to move in the direction of new leadership,” the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary board said in a statement on Tuesday.
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A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminar
Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
Just how sick can religion GET?
So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
Prayer has made a huge difference in stopping school shootings. Think about it.No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminary after he was widely criticized for saying that women who are abused by their husbands should pray for them and that women should “be submissive in every way that you can.”
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the board of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had voted to remove the leader, Paige Patterson, as the leader of the Forth Worth, Texas, institution.
“After much prayer and a more than 13-hour discussion regarding challenges facing the institution, including those of enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity, the Board determined to move in the direction of new leadership,” the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary board said in a statement on Tuesday.
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A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminar
Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
Just how sick can religion GET?
So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
Prayer has made a huge difference in stopping school shootings. Think about it.No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
"Prayer is useless, because it doesn't do what I mistakenly think it's for!"
You and One should start a club for religiophobic assholes who get a charge out of spewing meaningless bile in the mistaken belief that you're accomplishing something.
No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminary after he was widely criticized for saying that women who are abused by their husbands should pray for them and that women should “be submissive in every way that you can.”
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the board of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had voted to remove the leader, Paige Patterson, as the leader of the Forth Worth, Texas, institution.
“After much prayer and a more than 13-hour discussion regarding challenges facing the institution, including those of enrollment, financial, leadership and institutional identity, the Board determined to move in the direction of new leadership,” the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary board said in a statement on Tuesday.
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A top Southern Baptist leader was ousted this week as the head of his seminar
Southern Baptist leader ousted as seminary president after saying women should pray for their abusive husbands
Just how sick can religion GET?
So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
Thank you so much for that utterly pointless statement of your opinion framed as universal "fact". I certainly cannot remember having at any point in time asked you if you agreed with my religious beliefs, but I feel sure that I must have, since you so promptly answered the question I don't recall asking.
Prayer has made a huge difference in stopping school shootings. Think about it.No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
"Prayer is useless, because it doesn't do what I mistakenly think it's for!"
You and One should start a club for religiophobic assholes who get a charge out of spewing meaningless bile in the mistaken belief that you're accomplishing something.
How Christian of you. You better get to church and say a whole bunch of hail whatever's for that one.
No, but telling his female parishoners to be as submissive as they can is not a good plan if a woman is being abused. I don't mean that they should be mouthy, but advising them to put up and shut up, which is what it SOUNDS like, could be very bad advice. He could have been quoted out of context; who knows. There are a lot of better people than I, who would pray for the soul of a joker who regularly beat and terrorized his wife. They're welcome to it. As long as that's not the ONLY answer to the problem.So you think asking the Almighty Creator of the Universe to make your lousy husband a better person is a bad plan?
You misunderstand (BIG surprise). I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other about the whole of Patterson's remarks. I'm addressing specifically the idea of praying for an abusive husband.
Prayer is doing nothing and still think your helping.
Thank you so much for that utterly pointless statement of your opinion framed as universal "fact". I certainly cannot remember having at any point in time asked you if you agreed with my religious beliefs, but I feel sure that I must have, since you so promptly answered the question I don't recall asking.
The fact is you can pray to your favorite religious zealot or Walmart you're still going to die.
The fact is the religious hierarchy got out their calculator and figured out how much this pastor was going to cost them in religious offerings. So they canned his ass.
In religion and every other business it's all about the money.
