People trying to compare guys like the Vegas shooter to Muslim terrorists ...

John Shaw

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Are off their fucking rocker.

First of all, they start playing this numbers games with a fallacious premise. It's the same thing people do with crime. White Americans commit more crime than black Americans. They conveniently forget to mention that whites are over 60% of the population, and blacks are somewhere in the low to mid teens.

The same concept applies to Muslim terrorists and white male shooters/terrorists (however you want to define them. I would say that so far, this last guy was not a terrorist technically since he appeared to be pushing no agenda with his massacre. He just wanted to kill people for some reason). Muslims, all Muslims, are somewhere around 1% of the population. White males are over 30%. Of course there are going to be more white male spree shooters.

The threat of Islam is not really in terrorism; it is in the extreme oppression that comes with the territory. Lack of free speech. Subjugation of women. Hatred and intolerance toward homosexuals. All that is un-American (or was un-American until recently, at least) wrapped up in one shitty religion. I'm not really worried about terrorists. Their actions are horrible and tragic, but it's the mainstream Muslim pushing that trash heap of a religion that scares me. And liberals REFUSE to acknowledge its rather obvious short-comings. Because that would be racist, apparently. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Christians also tend to push their shit agendas, but they are far, far less insidious than their Islamic counterparts.
 
between 1980 and 2008, blacks who are at most 14% of the US population committed 60% of felony murders and 52% of all homicides.
 
between 1980 and 2008, blacks who are at most 14% of the US population committed 60% of felony murders and 52% of all homicides.
Felony murders-- as in deaths that occurred as a result of carrying out a felony? The felony murder rule?

Example: Getaway car accidentally runs over and kills a pedestrian = felony murder = murder. Is that the stat you are talking about?
 
Are off their fucking rocker.

First of all, they start playing this numbers games with a fallacious premise. It's the same thing people do with crime. White Americans commit more crime than black Americans. They conveniently forget to mention that whites are over 60% of the population, and blacks are somewhere in the low to mid teens.

The same concept applies to Muslim terrorists and white male shooters/terrorists (however you want to define them. I would say that so far, this last guy was not a terrorist technically since he appeared to be pushing no agenda with his massacre. He just wanted to kill people for some reason). Muslims, all Muslims, are somewhere around 1% of the population. White males are over 30%. Of course there are going to be more white male spree shooters.

The threat of Islam is not really in terrorism; it is in the extreme oppression that comes with the territory. Lack of free speech. Subjugation of women. Hatred and intolerance toward homosexuals. All that is un-American (or was un-American until recently, at least) wrapped up in one shitty religion. I'm not really worried about terrorists. Their actions are horrible and tragic, but it's the mainstream Muslim pushing that trash heap of a religion that scares me. And liberals REFUSE to acknowledge its rather obvious short-comings. Because that would be racist, apparently. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Christians also tend to push their shit agendas, but they are far, far less insidious than their Islamic counterparts.

What are you trying to justify here?
Most of those Muslim killers and most of the white killers are MEN, that's the one thing that links them all.

Ban men.
 
Are off their fucking rocker.

First of all, they start playing this numbers games with a fallacious premise. It's the same thing people do with crime. White Americans commit more crime than black Americans. They conveniently forget to mention that whites are over 60% of the population, and blacks are somewhere in the low to mid teens.

The same concept applies to Muslim terrorists and white male shooters/terrorists (however you want to define them. I would say that so far, this last guy was not a terrorist technically since he appeared to be pushing no agenda with his massacre. He just wanted to kill people for some reason). Muslims, all Muslims, are somewhere around 1% of the population. White males are over 30%. Of course there are going to be more white male spree shooters.

The threat of Islam is not really in terrorism; it is in the extreme oppression that comes with the territory. Lack of free speech. Subjugation of women. Hatred and intolerance toward homosexuals. All that is un-American (or was un-American until recently, at least) wrapped up in one shitty religion. I'm not really worried about terrorists. Their actions are horrible and tragic, but it's the mainstream Muslim pushing that trash heap of a religion that scares me. And liberals REFUSE to acknowledge its rather obvious short-comings. Because that would be racist, apparently. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Christians also tend to push their shit agendas, but they are far, far less insidious than their Islamic counterparts.

What are you trying to justify here?
Most of those Muslim killers and most of the white killers are MEN, that's the one thing that links them all.

Ban men.

That's actually probably the most important thing. The overwhelming majority of murderers are men. Why? In part because men are naturally violent. It's how our species has survived to this point. Women certainly weren't complaining about it when the hunters came home with their catch.

Now, though, it's kind of a burden. All that physical strength and aggression isn't really conducive to living in modern societies. And men are by and large lonely, isolated, and ignored in America, their problems pushed to the side to cater to women. And that's a major contributing factor. Part of the issue is that men are violent by nature, but another big part is the way men are treated, the environment in which they come up. The second part can be changed.
 
between 1980 and 2008, blacks who are at most 14% of the US population committed 60% of felony murders and 52% of all homicides.
Felony murders-- as in deaths that occurred as a result of carrying out a felony? The felony murder rule?

Example: Getaway car accidentally runs over and kills a pedestrian = felony murder = murder. Is that the stat you are talking about?

Ummm...yes?
 
It is more clear every day that Paddock, a registered democrat, was a leftist driven over the edge like Hodgkinson.

The more hysterical the left gets, the more incidents like this will happen.
 
It is more clear every day that Paddock, a registered democrat, was a leftist driven over the edge like Hodgkinson.

The more hysterical the left gets, the more incidents like this will happen.

I'll believe it when the cops say it. Not a bunch of partisans on a forum board.
 
Are off their fucking rocker.

First of all, they start playing this numbers games with a fallacious premise. It's the same thing people do with crime. White Americans commit more crime than black Americans. They conveniently forget to mention that whites are over 60% of the population, and blacks are somewhere in the low to mid teens.

The same concept applies to Muslim terrorists and white male shooters/terrorists (however you want to define them. I would say that so far, this last guy was not a terrorist technically since he appeared to be pushing no agenda with his massacre. He just wanted to kill people for some reason). Muslims, all Muslims, are somewhere around 1% of the population. White males are over 30%. Of course there are going to be more white male spree shooters.

The threat of Islam is not really in terrorism; it is in the extreme oppression that comes with the territory. Lack of free speech. Subjugation of women. Hatred and intolerance toward homosexuals. All that is un-American (or was un-American until recently, at least) wrapped up in one shitty religion. I'm not really worried about terrorists. Their actions are horrible and tragic, but it's the mainstream Muslim pushing that trash heap of a religion that scares me. And liberals REFUSE to acknowledge its rather obvious short-comings. Because that would be racist, apparently. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Christians also tend to push their shit agendas, but they are far, far less insidious than their Islamic counterparts.

What are you trying to justify here?
Most of those Muslim killers and most of the white killers are MEN, that's the one thing that links them all.

Ban men.

That's actually probably the most important thing. The overwhelming majority of murderers are men. Why? In part because men are naturally violent. It's how our species has survived to this point. Women certainly weren't complaining about it when the hunters came home with their catch.

Now, though, it's kind of a burden. All that physical strength and aggression isn't really conducive to living in modern societies. And men are by and large lonely, isolated, and ignored in America, their problems pushed to the side to cater to women. And that's a major contributing factor. Part of the issue is that men are violent by nature, but another big part is the way men are treated, the environment in which they come up. The second part can be changed.

Men are violent, and some men need an outlet for their aggression and anger.

You either work with what you have, or you pretend that it's all great, and then blame the problems on something else.

Perhaps society should be doing things differently.
 
It is more clear every day that Paddock, a registered democrat, was a leftist driven over the edge like Hodgkinson.

The more hysterical the left gets, the more incidents like this will happen.

Yep. It's become acceptable for LWNJ's to target conservatives.

Antifa, BLM, BAMN (all LWNJ groups) espouse violence as a means to achieve their political ends.
 
Can you imagine the media response if this was a rap concert?

RACIST!!!!!

But because they were majority white, conservatives....let's talk about Guns and bump stocks!!
 
It is more clear every day that Paddock, a registered democrat, was a leftist driven over the edge like Hodgkinson.

The more hysterical the left gets, the more incidents like this will happen.

Yep. It's become acceptable for LWNJ's to target conservatives.

Antifa, BLM, BAMN (all LWNJ groups) espouse violence as a means to achieve their political ends.

As if the right don't use violence either.
 
That's actually probably the most important thing. The overwhelming majority of murderers are men. Why? In part because men are naturally violent. It's how our species has survived to this point. Women certainly weren't complaining about it when the hunters came home with their catch.

Now, though, it's kind of a burden. All that physical strength and aggression isn't really conducive to living in modern societies. And men are by and large lonely, isolated, and ignored in America, their problems pushed to the side to cater to women. And that's a major contributing factor. Part of the issue is that men are violent by nature, but another big part is the way men are treated, the environment in which they come up. The second part can be changed.
Have yourself a trophy, sir. Very well stated.
 
I imagine Isis Isil M.O.U.S.E. is seriously jealous of this nutjob. They spend tens of thousands and are lucky to take out 5-10.This asshole takes out (50-60---depends on the channel) in 5-10 minutes(depends on the channel)
 
Men are violent, and some men need an outlet for their aggression and anger.

You either work with what you have, or you pretend that it's all great, and then blame the problems on something else.

Perhaps society should be doing things differently.
This supports my theory that the solution to all problems is WAR.
:dunno:
 

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