Pentagon: Moscow army has 'basically failed' in Ukraine | Their organisation and their ability to carry out their operations SUCK!

[Litwin]

Cedric Leighton: Moscow army has 'basically failed' in Ukraine | Their organisation and their ability to carry out their operations SUCK!​

During the Second World War the Ukrainian army and fighters fought ferociously,nothing much has changed except Putin had forgotten this minor fact

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You believe the pentagon? Seriously? Why?

 

[CaptainRussia]

The Pentagon can wipe their asses with toilet paper currency of a dollar bar.

You can spin it around all you want. Russia has penetrated over 15 Km into the Donbas, their most heavily fortified positions and dealt a cripling blow to their best forces.
If Russia can defeat Ukraines best forced in the Donbas, what makes you think they wont do the same to the rest?

 

[gipper]

Cedric Leighton: Moscow army has 'basically failed' in Ukraine | Their organisation and their ability to carry out their operations SUCK!​

During the Second World War the Ukrainian army and fighters fought ferociously,nothing much has changed except Putin had forgotten this minor fact

Lol. You’ll believe anything if it fits your narrative.

The truth is the Ukies are in big trouble. Expect the porn star Z to runoff to a Caribbean island soon, with his millions of dollars stolen from American taxpayers.

The Ukrainian army has moved seven brigades of its Territorial Defense Forces from the west into the area east of the Dnieper. If these were fully maned each will have had some 3,000 soldiers. That are a lot of troops but they are pure infantry without heavy weapons and with extremely little training. Col. Reisner also showed a collection of 15 videos in which members of such and other units describe hopeless situations, declare a retreat or call out their commanders for neglect.

Morale is so bad because those troops do not fare well.

Yves Smith, with a wonderful Daily Mail style headline:

The War Situation Has Developed Not Necessarily to Ukraine’s or the West’s Advantage But They Plan to Negotiate When They’ve Turned Things Around a Bit - Yves Smith / Naked Capitalism

A very long established contact forwarded this message from a former senior US military official:

Just in from an Army Colonel in the building:
“Spoke to someone today who said that the Ukie basic training is 10 days and then off to the front. 65% casualty rates. At least double or more the losses of the Russians but you don’t hear anything about it.”

I very much doubt that Russian units, the way they are currently fighting, have casualty rates of more than 10%. Russia is regularly rotating units in and out to give them some rest and to let them replenish. It is a classic Russian artillery war now and infantry only comes in when the Ukrainians are already defeated.

As this permanent grinding continues the Ukrainians will soon reach a breaking point.

Cont. reading: Ukraine Beyond Day 100 - Breaking Resistance, Deep Operation, A New Country

 

[AZrailwhale]

Lol. You’ll believe anything if it fits your narrative.

The truth is the Ukies are in big trouble. Expect the porn star Z to runoff to a Caribbean island soon, with his millions of dollars stolen from American taxpayers.

The Ukrainian army has moved seven brigades of its Territorial Defense Forces from the west into the area east of the Dnieper. If these were fully maned each will have had some 3,000 soldiers. That are a lot of troops but they are pure infantry without heavy weapons and with extremely little training. Col. Reisner also showed a collection of 15 videos in which members of such and other units describe hopeless situations, declare a retreat or call out their commanders for neglect.

Morale is so bad because those troops do not fare well.

Yves Smith, with a wonderful Daily Mail style headline:

The War Situation Has Developed Not Necessarily to Ukraine’s or the West’s Advantage But They Plan to Negotiate When They’ve Turned Things Around a Bit - Yves Smith / Naked Capitalism


I very much doubt that Russian units, the way they are currently fighting, have casualty rates of more than 10%. Russia is regularly rotating units in and out to give them some rest and to let them replenish. It is a classic Russian artillery war now and infantry only comes in when the Ukrainians are already defeated.

As this permanent grinding continues the Ukrainians will soon reach a breaking point.

Cont. reading: Ukraine Beyond Day 100 - Breaking Resistance, Deep Operation, A New Country

Russian doctrine doesn't call for units to be pulled from combat until they have taken losses so serious they are combat ineffective. That's usually considered to be sixty percent losses or more. Then units are broken up and reconstituted into new units.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Lol. You’ll believe anything if it fits your narrative.

The truth is the Ukies are in big trouble. Expect the porn star Z to runoff to a Caribbean island soon, with his millions of dollars stolen from American taxpayers.

The Ukrainian army has moved seven brigades of its Territorial Defense Forces from the west into the area east of the Dnieper. If these were fully maned each will have had some 3,000 soldiers. That are a lot of troops but they are pure infantry without heavy weapons and with extremely little training. Col. Reisner also showed a collection of 15 videos in which members of such and other units describe hopeless situations, declare a retreat or call out their commanders for neglect.

Morale is so bad because those troops do not fare well.

Yves Smith, with a wonderful Daily Mail style headline:

The War Situation Has Developed Not Necessarily to Ukraine’s or the West’s Advantage But They Plan to Negotiate When They’ve Turned Things Around a Bit - Yves Smith / Naked Capitalism


I very much doubt that Russian units, the way they are currently fighting, have casualty rates of more than 10%. Russia is regularly rotating units in and out to give them some rest and to let them replenish. It is a classic Russian artillery war now and infantry only comes in when the Ukrainians are already defeated.

As this permanent grinding continues the Ukrainians will soon reach a breaking point.

Cont. reading: Ukraine Beyond Day 100 - Breaking Resistance, Deep Operation, A New Country

Russian doctrine is not to rotate a unit out of combat until it suffered enough casualties to become combat ineffective. I believe by Russian standards that’s sixty percent losses. Then they consolidate the remains of the units into combined units, replace destroyed equipment and re-commit the unit. Based upon that, the Russians are taking horrendous casualties.

 

[gipper]

Russian doctrine is not to rotate a unit out of combat until it suffered enough casualties to become combat ineffective. I believe by Russian standards that’s sixty percent losses. Then they consolidate the remains of the units into combined units, replace destroyed equipment and re-commit the unit. Based upon that, the Russians are taking horrendous casualties.

I don’t know about that, but have no reason to doubt it. However one needs also analyze the losses incurred by their opponent, to understand what is occurring.

 

[whitehall]

Maybe you need to put your money where your mouth is and fight for your comrades in Ukraine instead of spending time with lame posts that pretend the Russians will be defeated.

 

[Silver Cat]

Russian doctrine is not to rotate a unit out of combat until it suffered enough casualties to become combat ineffective. I believe by Russian standards that’s sixty percent losses. Then they consolidate the remains of the units into combined units, replace destroyed equipment and re-commit the unit. Based upon that, the Russians are taking horrendous casualties.

It's not a 'war' in Ukraine, it's a 'special operation'. And for peacetime special operations the Russians usually use approximately 3 months' secondments. So yes, they must have been rotating since May, 24.

 

[Litwin]

Ukraine

POOTLER Soldier’s Dad Roasting Moscow Army On The Phone: “They Lose People Like They’re Unlimited”

Sounds like one pissed off father. I don't blame him. 'You have one combat vehicle?!' "Well actually they sent us with two", 'ooooh mighty' got a good laugh out of that

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Open Bolt]

Based upon that, the Russians are taking horrendous casualties.

They are. And the longer it keeps up, the less Russia will be able to bother NATO nations later on.

 

[gipper]

They are. And the longer it keeps up, the less Russia will be able to bother NATO nations later on.

Yeah sure the Russians are taking horrendous casualties, and Putin has cancer and gone insane.
Putin speaks

Now for some truth for you silly serfs….
The ruble hasn't been turned to rubble, Russia isn't back in the Stone Age and Ukraine doesn't have Crimea

Biden is begging for oil, Europe is going back to burning coal, our Gov't stole $55 billion from us and we are paying more for everything

Is NATO winning or Russia?

 

[gipper]

Cedric Leighton: Moscow army has 'basically failed' in Ukraine | Their organisation and their ability to carry out their operations SUCK!​

During the Second World War the Ukrainian army and fighters fought ferociously,nothing much has changed except Putin had forgotten this minor fact

The ruble hasn't been turned to rubble, Russia isn't back in the Stone Age and Ukraine doesn't have Crimea

Biden is begging for oil, Europe is going back to burning coal, our Gov't stole $55 billion from us and we are paying more for everything

Is NATO winning or Russia?

 

[Litwin]

Russia isn't back in the Stone Age

lets speak about it once , you ivans run out off our (EU) cash, end of this year )))

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[odanny]

The ruble hasn't been turned to rubble, Russia isn't back in the Stone Age and Ukraine doesn't have Crimea

Biden is begging for oil, Europe is going back to burning coal, our Gov't stole $55 billion from us and we are paying more for everything

Is NATO winning or Russia?

"Our Govt."?

And what government would that be, comrade?

 

[gipper]

"Our Govt."?

And what government would that be, comrade?

Take wild guess duopoly dupe.

 

[gipper]

lets speak about it once , you ivans run out off our (EU) cash, end of this year )))

Urban Dictionary: Ponty

1. A person perceived as a threat to ones masculinity. 2. An adjective describing a somewhat level headed and talented individual. 3. A “over confident” guy ballsy 1. “This guy’s being a Ponty 2. “Why’s he dressed so sharp... he’s a Ponty” 3 “Stop acting all over confident...like a Ponty”

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Adolf you have my deepest sympathies for the deaths of your Azov Nazi buddies and the forthcoming surrender of Ukraine. I hope you get out alive.

 

[odanny]

Take wild guess duopoly dupe.

It was rhetorical, I already know.

 

[gipper]

It was rhetorical, I already know.

Well than?

 

[Open Bolt]

the forthcoming surrender of Ukraine.

Russia has already failed to take Ukraine, and has suffered massive casualties in the attempt.