Pentagon: Bin Laden deputy complains about money, Iraq tactics

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    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/07/pentagon.al.qaeda/index.html

    Pentagon: Bin Laden deputy complains about money, Iraq tactics
    U.S. says it obtained intercepted letter
    From Jamie McIntyre
    CNN

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An intercepted letter from Osama bin Laden's deputy to the al Qaeda leader in Iraq complains that the terrorist network is short of cash and faces defeat in Afghanistan, a Pentagon spokesman says.

    The United States obtained a recent letter that appears to be from Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's No. 2 figure, to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, outlining both the strategy and concerns of the terrorist network, said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman.

    In the letter, al-Zawahiri warns that some of the tactics currently employed by the insurgency, including the slaughtering of hostages and the suicide bombings of Muslim civilians, may risk alienating the "Muslim masses," Whitman said Thursday.

    Reading from a summary of the letter, Whitman said al-Zawahiri concedes that al Qaeda has lost many key leaders, is resigned to defeat in Afghanistan, and that its lines of communication and funding sources have been seriously disrupted. Al-Zawahiri includes a plea for financial support, indicating he is strapped for money, Whitman said.

    He could not say when the letter was intercepted or when authorities believe it might have been written.

    The lengthy communication was said to detail the strategy of Muslim extremists to push the United States out of Iraq and establish an Islamic state that could expand its form of governance to neighboring countries, Whitman said.

    Senior U.S. officials told CNN that the 6,000-word letter is believed to have been written within days of the July 7 terror attacks in London. Only parts of the letter have been made public, the officials said.

    The decision to confirm the existence of the letter came after an incomplete and partially inaccurate version was leaked to news organizations, the senior officials said.

    Earlier Thursday, President Bush made similar points about the terror network in what aides billed as a "major speech" on the war on terrorism, which was launched after al Qaeda's September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

    Bush repeated his long-standing contention that Iraq had become the central front in that conflict, and said a U.S. withdrawal from that currently unpopular conflict would leave behind a country ruled by bin Laden and al-Zarqawi.

    "We will not stand by as a new set of killers dedicated to the destruction of our own country seizes control of Iraq by violence," Bush said. (Full story)
     
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    interesting in that.....they are out of money? doubtfull given where the funding comes from......and that they belive that they, in afganistan, have not lost yet...

    your take lefty?
     
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    an overview of what i think al qaedas state is or just in afghanistan?
     
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    by all means you take the lead?
     
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    well in afgahnistan other then sporatic pockets of resistence that pop up from time to time the country is relitivly secure. the most recent elections in the country all but show that. with an overall military forceand a relitively small force of around 35,000 us and foriegn troops, there were no attacks on polling stations or crowds queing up to vote. there were one or two isolated incidences of violence leading up to the elections but those were more tribel in nature.

    al queda in iraq ,who were there before the war, are using the media to their advantage to try to drive down support for the war. they are using the media by for the most part attacking within a 60 mile radius of baghdad because they know it will get the media coverage. overall attacks in the country have dropped and attacks outside the stated miles radius and other then those within about 10-20 miles from the boarder with syria are vitually non existent. you'll note the lack of attacks in the southern and northern parts of the country and the extremely low causualty count amoung the brits because again their third falls outside that sixty mile radius.

    al qadea overall is not what it once was. charites that once operated in the open to fund them have been shut down. popular support for al qaeda is dropping due to attacks on civilians in iraq, civilians in egypt, civilians in bali and on and on. in the late 90's through early 01-02 their support was high and that support was out in the open but now if you check just average arabic message boards or even visit cafes in arab countries most people would now say that bin laden has hurt rather then helped muslims in the world in particular the west. support for the ideas of democracy are growing. elections in afghanistan, iraq, local elections in saudi arabia, the advancement of women rights in the region things like running for office in places like kuwait and saudi arabia are taking effect, and the excuse of the israeli/palistiean issue is being wiped off the table you take that and the up surge in pro democracy/anti syrian sentiment in lebanon and the up swing in pro american/pro western iranians the tipping point in our favor is being reached. its still going to be a long fight and right now its about the 7th round and we're winning on the scorecard. they might land a few and get lucky but we'll knock them out
     
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    well argued....imho.....none the less why would the letter imply / the US govt. ensure that it was know that the letter stated that AQ had not yet "lost" .....
     
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    Very interesting. I suspect that the terrorists are going to pick their battles more carefully in the future; the strategic overview is also very compelling....lose a battle but win the war. The sad part is that the Europeanists and the PC crowd are helping them do it.
     
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    And they say the War on Terror isn't working.
     
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    al qaeda the group and the ideology isn't in this for the short term and we in the west have to relize this to win. long after obl and zarqawi their will be other nuts to pick up the tourch and they'll have to be either eliminated or so far isolated that their marginilized even in their own countries and in thier own families. overall change in the arab world is our best weapon in the war on terror
     

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