Pence & Hutchinson Are Anti-Christian Cowards

As long as the RFRA can't be used to discriminate against lawful commerce in the public square, cool.
 
Bottom line > Republicans swept the last election by a landslide, and will do so again.

they won elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds. When everyone votes in 2016, you guys are soooooo done.

The GOP establishment realizes this. That's why they are working overtime to shut down the bigots.
They won elections in states all over the country, including ones that previously were locks for Democrats. Oh yeah, "elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds", if you choose to call it that. :biggrin: But maybe you conveniently "forgot" about Republican governor victories in Democrat bastions states like > Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois ? :badgrin: I'll go easy on you and just mention those 3 for now - unless I get more flack ; then we go into the whole ugly (for Democrats) picture.
As for the "bigots", that would be the gay Christian-bashers. And 2 weakling governors does not equal the "GOP establishment", but nice try. :laugh:
The last election was a bi-term, so it is absolutely no prediction for next year, except for two points.

One, the GOP was right to reach out more to women and minorities. To win next year, who ever does the best job of it next year will win.

Two, the far right of socons and neo-cons and nativists will not be able to dictate the GOP candidate much less pull a victory for the party.
 
The 2 governors (Indiana & Arkansas) involved in the Christians vs Gays debate, regarding new RFRA laws are both Gay ass-kissing cowards. Both came out in favor of bills to protect Chriatians from discriomaination that would/could compel them to act against their Christian religion. Then, after a wave of criticism from gays and therir supporters, both of these wimps caved in, bowed down to the gays' demands, anf threw America's Christians under the bus.

We've been hearing all sorts of disingenuous comments from people on this matter. One thing that has been said is it doesn't have anything to do with discrimination. That's is just simply false. It really comes down to a matter of who do you discriminate against , and who do you cater to. Pence and Hutchinson have decided to cater to the gays and their riff-raff loudmouths, which includes hypocritical politicians, movie actors, corporations, etc. In so doing, they have chosen to discriminate against Christians, and anyone who chooses to not do business with gays.

This is going in the wrong direction. Gays SHOULD be discriminated against in certain situations, and very meticulously. Their sexual perversion should never be accepted by society, and they should be severely restricted from ever holding jobs that involve casting their opinions about (ex. coaches, clergy, etc). They should be held far away from any teaching jobs, coaching, counseling, or anything in close proximity with children.

It is puzzling why 2 governors would act in opposition to the people who went to the polls and voted for them, and elected them, and instead cave into the the mob rule babble of mentally, aberrated perverts. In any event, once burned, twice shy. Arkansas and Indiana voters should vote these 2 cowardly clowns out of office ASAP, as well as state legislators who voted to amend the original bills.

http://www.theledger.com/article/201...=2&tc=pg&tc=ar
Money talks....just like it talked to that Pizzaria.
 
Bill Clinton signed the law back in the 90's and Barry Hussein and Upchuck Schumer agreed with Clinton at the time. Next thing you know male democrats start wearing dresses and now the governors who want to advance Bill Clinton's agenda are the bad guys. The world is upside down to lefties.
 
actually, whities, it's turned drowning side for the far righties.

Thank heavens. We will no longer have any power from the far right, only incessant whining until the waters of time still them . . . forever.
 
I don't know what you're talking about. 1980 is when the era of Republican small govt began. It began with Reagan and his low tax policies (28% top tax in 1988). As for Abortion, Gays, or Immigration, if Democrats didn't talk about that, then the Republican victories would have been even bigger if they had talked about it, since their policies on those positions are terrible.

Guy, you don't know what you are talking about. Reagan didn't SHRINK government, he grew it. So did the Bushes. What he didn't do was actually make sure we paid for it, which is why the National debt TRIPLED by 1992 after 12 years of Reagan and Bush.

The fact is, the GOP is the ones talking about the "Scared White Guys" issues to get stupid people like you voting against your own economic interests by playing on your religious, racial and sexual fears.

Except now that big business has gotten everything it wants, it's telling you scared white guys to go take a flying leap.
 
Bill Clinton signed the law back in the 90's and Barry Hussein and Upchuck Schumer agreed with Clinton at the time. Next thing you know male democrats start wearing dresses and now the governors who want to advance Bill Clinton's agenda are the bad guys. The world is upside down to lefties.

First, the law that was signed back in the 1990's was not designed to allow businesses to discriminate. It was signed to allow INDIVIDUALS the right of protection for religious beliefs in the workplace and public life. The insanity that "businesses are people" allows for craziness like allowing it as an excuse to deny employees birth control they've worked for, or allowing bigots to deny services because they are actually paying attention to one verse in the Big Book of Jewish Fairy Tales.
 
Fox News' Judge Napolitano explains why Indiana's and Arkansas' initial attempts at RFRA were Constitutionally wrong.

Indiana and the Constitution Fox News

One of the few instances when I'm in agreement with the gentleman.

A point he makes that OUGHT to provoke thoughts: The Supreme Court has already decided that religious freedom does not give anyone the right to violate other laws. American Indians, for instance, can't take peyote even though their religion calls for it. Therefore, in order to put these religious freedom laws into place - which attempt to rewrite freedom of worship as defined in the First Amendment - without violating equal treatment as required by the 14th, it would be necessary for the states to define what activities are and are not part and parcel of the practice of all religions - something the First Amendment specifically prohibits them from doing.

The whole things was a bad idea from the beginning.
Very easy to refute >>

1. Gays are not "equal" to normal people. They are deranged, sex pervert degenerates. And thus, do not rate for equal protection of the law. Do murderers get equal protection of the law to keep them out of prisons ? Do insane people get equal protection of the law to keep them out of nuthouses ? Do indigent people get equal protection of the law to allow them to buy mansions ? Do illiterate people have equal protection of the law allowing them to get jobs as journalists?

Since homosexuality is not a crime, homosexuals are equal under the law. Homosexuality is not a mental illness and they do not represent a threat to themselves or society and so homosexuals are not eligible for incarceration. And your ideas that it is the law which prevents the indigent from buying mansions or the illiterate from working as journalists are complete nonsense and de facto evidence that the ignorant and illiterate have no difficulty acting as message board posters.

2. By your logic, we can now conclude that the religious freedom clause of the 1st amendment has no bearing on the violation of laws committed by Muslims, right ?

The religious position of individuals accused of crimes is irrelevant.

- Article 6, section 2 of the Constitution, US Code 2384, US Code 2385, + scores of states laws outlawing thing advocated (if not commnded) by the Koran. Right, Crick ? Right ? Right ? :biggrin:

How many crimes are identified as capital offenses in Leviticus that are not capital crimes or even criminal in the US legal system?

Your point is nonsense and irrelevant to this discussion.
 
Fox News' Judge Napolitano explains why Indiana's and Arkansas' initial attempts at RFRA were Constitutionally wrong.

Indiana and the Constitution Fox News

One of the few instances when I'm in agreement with the gentleman.

A point he makes that OUGHT to provoke thoughts: The Supreme Court has already decided that religious freedom does not give anyone the right to violate other laws. American Indians, for instance, can't take peyote even though their religion calls for it. Therefore, in order to put these religious freedom laws into place - which attempt to rewrite freedom of worship as defined in the First Amendment - without violating equal treatment as required by the 14th, it would be necessary for the states to define what activities are and are not part and parcel of the practice of all religions - something the First Amendment specifically prohibits them from doing.

The whole things was a bad idea from the beginning.
Very easy to refute >>

1. Gays are not "equal" to normal people. They are deranged, sex pervert degenerates. And thus, do not rate for equal protection of the law. Do murderers get equal protection of the law to keep them out of prisons ? Do insane people get equal protection of the law to keep them out of nuthouses ? Do indigent people get equal protection of the law to allow them to buy mansions ? Do illiterate people have equal protection of the law allowing them to get jobs as journalists?

Since homosexuality is not a crime, homosexuals are equal under the law. Homosexuality is not a mental illness and they do not represent a threat to themselves or society and so homosexuals are not eligible for incarceration. And your ideas that it is the law which prevents the indigent from buying mansions or the illiterate from working as journalists are complete nonsense and de facto evidence that the ignorant and illiterate have no difficulty acting as message board posters.

2. By your logic, we can now conclude that the religious freedom clause of the 1st amendment has no bearing on the violation of laws committed by Muslims, right ?

The religious position of individuals accused of crimes is irrelevant.

- Article 6, section 2 of the Constitution, US Code 2384, US Code 2385, + scores of states laws outlawing thing advocated (if not commnded) by the Koran. Right, Crick ? Right ? Right ? :biggrin:

How many crimes are identified as capital offenses in Leviticus that are not capital crimes or even criminal in the US legal system?

Your points are nonsense and irrelevant to this discussion.
 
1. Pheeeeww!! You're really not getting this, are you ? Arkansas and Indiana are TWO states. And we're talking about THIRTY-SEVEN states. Get it ? :rolleyes:

Dumbass, the other states that already have RFRA's aren't using them to discriminate against gays, and the state trying to come up with laws to do that are being told by big business- "NO!" And since we've established Walmart is bigger than Jesus, that settles the matter.

2. In businesses, guess who deals with fascist, Nazi gays. INDIVIDUALS, that's who (AKA PEOPLE) :rolleyes-41:

3. And an option of someone losing their livelihood, so deranged degenerates can order them to violate their religion, is NOT AN OPTION.

It's totally an option. Just substitute "gay" for "black". A company that refused to serve blacks would be put out of business so fast your head would spin.

4. I don't expect liberals to accept the simple truth of the unconstitutionality and illegality of Islam, and your perception of "no one" is only those liberals, who are the most pathetically ignorant group in America, regarding Islam and Islamization, due to the deliberate witholding of information about this in liberal media. I've shown that many times by challenging liberals with my Islamization Quiz, which no liberal has ever gotten a higher grade than 5% on. Most got zero.

That's just proof that most liberals don't subscribe to your batshit insane Islamophobia. Do you actually KNOW any Muslims. Here's a hint. Most of them worry about the same stuff you worry about.

5. And recognizing gay marriage, or whatever silly label you want to put on them, isn't being "ahead". It is being flat-out dumb, or bought off by rich gays..

No, actually, it's good business.

You see, if you are a smart businessman, you want employees who are happy, who love their jobs and can't wait to come to work to do a good job for you.

And when you are providing your gay employees the same benefits your straight employees get, they are more likely to be happy and productive. Which is why most businesses- the successful ones - didn't wait on the government on this issue.
 
The good Jesus did cause Wal-Mart to raise its corporate hand and slew the hopes of those who would do evil things in the Master's Name; and there was rejoicing through the land.
 
Bottom line > Republicans swept the last election by a landslide, and will do so again.

they won elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds. When everyone votes in 2016, you guys are soooooo done.

The GOP establishment realizes this. That's why they are working overtime to shut down the bigots.
They won elections in states all over the country, including ones that previously were locks for Democrats. Oh yeah, "elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds", if you choose to call it that. :biggrin: But maybe you conveniently "forgot" about Republican governor victories in Democrat bastions states like > Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois ? :badgrin: I'll go easy on you and just mention those 3 for now - unless I get more flack ; then we go into the whole ugly (for Democrats) picture.
As for the "bigots", that would be the gay Christian-bashers. And 2 weakling governors does not equal the "GOP establishment", but nice try. :laugh:
The last election was a bi-term, so it is absolutely no prediction for next year, except for two points.

One, the GOP was right to reach out more to women and minorities. To win next year, who ever does the best job of it next year will win.

Two, the far right of socons and neo-cons and nativists will not be able to dictate the GOP candidate much less pull a victory for the party.
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.
 
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.

Our National Security isn't in danger. Terrorism might be bad and all, but it's not an existential threat to the United States like let's say the USSR or Nazi Germany.
 
The 2 governors (Indiana & Arkansas) involved in the Christians vs Gays debate, regarding new RFRA laws are both Gay ass-kissing cowards. Both came out in favor of bills to protect Chriatians from discriomaination that would/could compel them to act against their Christian religion. Then, after a wave of criticism from gays and therir supporters, both of these wimps caved in, bowed down to the gays' demands, anf threw America's Christians under the bus.

We've been hearing all sorts of disingenuous comments from people on this matter. One thing that has been said is it doesn't have anything to do with discrimination. That's is just simply false. It really comes down to a matter of who do you discriminate against , and who do you cater to. Pence and Hutchinson have decided to cater to the gays and their riff-raff loudmouths, which includes hypocritical politicians, movie actors, corporations, etc. In so doing, they have chosen to discriminate against Christians, and anyone who chooses to not do business with gays.

This is going in the wrong direction. Gays SHOULD be discriminated against in certain situations, and very meticulously. Their sexual perversion should never be accepted by society, and they should be severely restricted from ever holding jobs that involve casting their opinions about (ex. coaches, clergy, etc). They should be held far away from any teaching jobs, coaching, counseling, or anything in close proximity with children.

It is puzzling why 2 governors would act in opposition to the people who went to the polls and voted for them, and elected them, and instead cave into the the mob rule babble of mentally, aberrated perverts. In any event, once burned, twice shy. Arkansas and Indiana voters should vote these 2 cowardly clowns out of office ASAP, as well as state legislators who voted to amend the original bills.

http://www.theledger.com/article/201...=2&tc=pg&tc=ar
Money talks....just like it talked to that Pizzaria.
Money talked to that Pizzaria all right. $842,387 in donations from tens of thousands of supporters all over the USA. :biggrin:
 
[One, the GOP was right to reach out more to women and minorities. To win next year, who ever does the best job of it next year will win.

Two, the far right of socons and neo-cons and nativists will not be able to dictate the GOP candidate much less pull a victory for the party.
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.
Spoken like a true American outing the far right reactionary neo-con thugs like you. Our National Security is fine, and our citizens are placed in a good position with the continued reaching out to women and minorities.
 
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.

Our National Security isn't in danger. Terrorism might be bad and all, but it's not an existential threat to the United States like let's say the USSR or Nazi Germany.
Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table. This is, by far, the most dangerous time in our history, and sad to say, but nuclear annihilation of the US is a very real possiblity, with a growing complexity and difficulty to control. And with the Iran talks fiasco, we are about to see a nuclear weapon arms race in the Middle East, as if Pakistan (Obama's primary worry), North Korea, ISIS, and Iran weren't bad enough.

And the word "threat" has to do with the future. Terrorism has BEEN killing Americans year by year, since 1993 (1st World trade bombing), and continues to do so.

You know little or nothing about the national security issue, because your liberal media withholds tons of national security reports from you. This is why every time I talk to liberals about national security they are clueless (EX. highest grade any of them go on my Islamizaiton Quiz is 5% - most got zero) You don't know anything. Here's a little education for you >>

Internal US terrorist plots since 9/11 (this is an incomplete list > It omits the July 2002 LAX shooting attack and the 2002 Beltway Sniper shooting which killed 19 people)


1. Richard Reid (the Shoe Bomber)—December 2001

2. Jose Padilla—May 20023. LackawannaSix—September 2002

4. Uzair and Saifullah Paracha—March 2003

5. Iyman Faris—May 2003

6. Ahmed Omar Abu Ali—June 2003

7. Virginia Jihad Network—June 2003

8. Nuradin M. Abdi—November 2003

9. Dhiren Barot—August 2004

10. James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj—August 2004

11. Yassin Aref and Mohammad Hossain—August 2004

12. Hamid Hayat—June 2005

13. Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson, Hammad Riaz Samana, and Kevin James—August 2005

14. Michael C. Reynolds—December 2005

15. Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Zand Wassim Mazloum—February 2006

16. Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar—March 2006

17. Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee—April 2006

18. Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augustine—June 2006

19. Assem Hammoud—July 2006

20. Liquid Explosives Plot—August 2006

21. Derrick Shareef—December 2006

22. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed—March 200723. Fort DixPlot—May 200724. JFK AirportPlot—June 2007

25. Hassan Abujihaad—March 2008

26. Christopher Paul—June 2008

27. Bryant Neal Vinas—November 2008

28. Synagogue Terror Plot—May 2009

29. Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad
June 2009

30. Raleigh Jihad Group—July 2009

31. Najibullah Zazi—September 2009

32. Maher Husein Smadi—September 2009

33. Michael Finton—September 2009

34. Tarek Mehanna and Ahmad Abousamra—October 2009

35. Major Nidal Malik Hasan—the Fort Hood Massacre killing 13 US soldiers ; injuring 35 others - November 2009

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36. The Christmas Day (Underwear) Bomber—December 2009

37. Raja Lahrasib Khan—March 2010

38. Faisal Shahzad (Times Square bomber) —May 2010

39. Paul G. Rockwood Jr. and Nadia Piroska Maria Rockwood—July 2010

40. Farooque Ahmed—October 2010

41. Air Cargo Bomb Plot—October 2010

42. Mohamed Osman Mohamud—November 2010

43. Antonio Martinez—December 2010

44. Khalid Ali-M Aldawsari—February 2011

45. Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh—May 2011

46. Yonathan Melaku—June 2011

47. Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif and Walli Mujahidh—June 2011

48. Ulugbek Kodirov—July 2011

49. Emerson Winfield Begolly—August 2011

50. Rezwan Ferdaus—September 201151. Iranian Terror PlotOctober 201152. Jose PimentelNovember 2011

53. Sami Osmakac—January 2012

54. Amine El Khalifi—February 2012

55. AQAP Plane Bomb Plot—May 2012

56. Adel Daoud—September 2012

57. Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis—October 2012.

58. Qazi Brothers’ Plot—November 2012

59. Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev—April 2013 (Boston Marathon Bombing killed 3 people ; injured dozens more.

60. Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser—April 2013


AND More recent ones >>


FBI says plot to attack U.S. Capitol was ready to go. Authorities say Cornell, who ostensibly tweeted under the name Raheel Mahrus Ubaydah, hatched a simple scheme. It was similar to the Paris attack on the offices of Charlie Hebdo, but at a key location -- the U.S. Capitol, said a criminal complaint filed by an FBI agent.

The plan: Set off pipe bombs to put lawmakers and employees in panicked flight and then gun them down with an assault rifle as they ran across his path and that of an accomplice, Special Agent T.A. Staderman wrote.
Cornell was ready to go, the agent said.


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Christopher Lee Cornell's mugshot from the Butler County Jail in Ohio.

He had made preparations with a partner. He had researched bomb-making instructions and by Wednesday, Cornell had bought two M-15 rifles with 600 rounds of ammunition.

FBI tracked plot to attack U.S. Capitol for months - CNN.com


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The Beheading in Oklahoma and Islam's Assault on North AmericaMuslim nutjob Alton Nolen, beheads a woman at a workplace in Moore, Oklahoma. (September 2014). Moore Police spokesman Jeremy Lewis said the 30-year-old suspect "recently started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the Muslim faith." The FBI are involved.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/09/ok...workers-islam/

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2014101...h-america.html#!

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This Summer's Jihad Attacks in New Jersey and Seattle Revealed in Court Ali Muhammad Brown kills 3 in Seattle, WA, and one more in New Jersey.

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http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog.../blog_id/56337

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Port Bolivar, TX Muslim Commits Koran MurderA Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death (3/6/2014), and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.

https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com...homosexuality/


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Hatchet-wielding Muslim radical who attacked rookie New York cops, 'spent months visiting jihadist websites, and stalked officers for hours.


TORONTO – A slickly produced video released on Sunday Dec. 6, 2014, urged Muslims to launch indiscriminate attacks against Canadians, similar to those carried out in October in Ottawa and Montreal.

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http://globalnews.ca/news/1713363/pu...-on-canadians/


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Apr 15, 2013:Three people killed, hundreds injured in Boston Marathon bombing
In addition, a University police officer was shot and killed while sitting in his car by the same Muslim jihad dirtbags who set off the bomb at the marathon.

Boston Marathon bombings - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

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************************************************** ******************** In Ashtabula, OH, A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah (3/24/2013)

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/0...easter-sunday/
 
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Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table.

Except nobody is going to give a nuclear weapon to crazy terrorists. Not even the Iranians and Pakistanis.

So argument fail.
 
Money talked to that Pizzaria all right. $842,387 in donations from tens of thousands of supporters all over the USA.

well, probably a good time to retire, then. I doubt they'll be serving Pizzas again anytime soon.
You doubt wrong. The are open for business, and resuming business usual. You think they need to pay attention to a few gay gooneybirds ? If any of those morons came into my business and tried to attack me, I'd shoot them dead.
 
Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table.

Except nobody is going to give a nuclear weapon to crazy terrorists. Not even the Iranians and Pakistanis.

So argument fail.
It's not a matter of GIVING. It's a matter of the nutjobs TAKING. They have already attacked the warhead storage a dozen times. The Pentagon has drawn up plans to go into Pakistan and seize the 100+ warheads, and bring them back to the US, for secure storage. In response to this the Pakistanis now drive the warheads around town in ordinary cargo vans to keep the Pentagon from doing that.

If the fragile Pakistani govt were to fall, and the jihadists got the nukes we are all dead in the US. This is info from 5 years ago. This is what happens when liberals only watch their liberal media, which never reports this stuff. It's why they don't know anything about what's going on, and don't know how much they don't know.

The Pentagon s Secret Plans to Secure Pakistan s Nuclear Arsenal Global Security Newswire NTI

Pakistan Carts Its Nukes Around In Delivery Vans WIRED

WikiLeaks cables highlight Pakistani nuclear terror threat World news The Guardian

Pakistan Nuclear Arsenal Will Be Protected By 8 000 Trainees Military Says

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...tan-nuclear-threat-should-be-our-top-concern/

'Pakistan nuclear weapons' threat under estimated' | NDTV.com

Why Pakistan's nuclear bombs are a threat | Asia | DW.DE | 09.04.2013

Pakistan trains 8 000 to guard nuclear arsenal USATODAY.com

As for the Iranians, they ARE crazy terroists, didn't you know ?
 
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