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As long as the RFRA can't be used to discriminate against lawful commerce in the public square, cool.
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The last election was a bi-term, so it is absolutely no prediction for next year, except for two points.They won elections in states all over the country, including ones that previously were locks for Democrats. Oh yeah, "elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds", if you choose to call it that. But maybe you conveniently "forgot" about Republican governor victories in Democrat bastions states like > Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois ? I'll go easy on you and just mention those 3 for now - unless I get more flack ; then we go into the whole ugly (for Democrats) picture.Bottom line > Republicans swept the last election by a landslide, and will do so again.
they won elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds. When everyone votes in 2016, you guys are soooooo done.
The GOP establishment realizes this. That's why they are working overtime to shut down the bigots.
As for the "bigots", that would be the gay Christian-bashers. And 2 weakling governors does not equal the "GOP establishment", but nice try.
Money talks....just like it talked to that Pizzaria.The 2 governors (Indiana & Arkansas) involved in the Christians vs Gays debate, regarding new RFRA laws are both Gay ass-kissing cowards. Both came out in favor of bills to protect Chriatians from discriomaination that would/could compel them to act against their Christian religion. Then, after a wave of criticism from gays and therir supporters, both of these wimps caved in, bowed down to the gays' demands, anf threw America's Christians under the bus.
We've been hearing all sorts of disingenuous comments from people on this matter. One thing that has been said is it doesn't have anything to do with discrimination. That's is just simply false. It really comes down to a matter of who do you discriminate against , and who do you cater to. Pence and Hutchinson have decided to cater to the gays and their riff-raff loudmouths, which includes hypocritical politicians, movie actors, corporations, etc. In so doing, they have chosen to discriminate against Christians, and anyone who chooses to not do business with gays.
This is going in the wrong direction. Gays SHOULD be discriminated against in certain situations, and very meticulously. Their sexual perversion should never be accepted by society, and they should be severely restricted from ever holding jobs that involve casting their opinions about (ex. coaches, clergy, etc). They should be held far away from any teaching jobs, coaching, counseling, or anything in close proximity with children.
It is puzzling why 2 governors would act in opposition to the people who went to the polls and voted for them, and elected them, and instead cave into the the mob rule babble of mentally, aberrated perverts. In any event, once burned, twice shy. Arkansas and Indiana voters should vote these 2 cowardly clowns out of office ASAP, as well as state legislators who voted to amend the original bills.
http://www.theledger.com/article/201...=2&tc=pg&tc=ar
I don't know what you're talking about. 1980 is when the era of Republican small govt began. It began with Reagan and his low tax policies (28% top tax in 1988). As for Abortion, Gays, or Immigration, if Democrats didn't talk about that, then the Republican victories would have been even bigger if they had talked about it, since their policies on those positions are terrible.
Bill Clinton signed the law back in the 90's and Barry Hussein and Upchuck Schumer agreed with Clinton at the time. Next thing you know male democrats start wearing dresses and now the governors who want to advance Bill Clinton's agenda are the bad guys. The world is upside down to lefties.
Fox News' Judge Napolitano explains why Indiana's and Arkansas' initial attempts at RFRA were Constitutionally wrong.
Indiana and the Constitution Fox News
One of the few instances when I'm in agreement with the gentleman.
A point he makes that OUGHT to provoke thoughts: The Supreme Court has already decided that religious freedom does not give anyone the right to violate other laws. American Indians, for instance, can't take peyote even though their religion calls for it. Therefore, in order to put these religious freedom laws into place - which attempt to rewrite freedom of worship as defined in the First Amendment - without violating equal treatment as required by the 14th, it would be necessary for the states to define what activities are and are not part and parcel of the practice of all religions - something the First Amendment specifically prohibits them from doing.
The whole things was a bad idea from the beginning.
Very easy to refute >>
1. Gays are not "equal" to normal people. They are deranged, sex pervert degenerates. And thus, do not rate for equal protection of the law. Do murderers get equal protection of the law to keep them out of prisons ? Do insane people get equal protection of the law to keep them out of nuthouses ? Do indigent people get equal protection of the law to allow them to buy mansions ? Do illiterate people have equal protection of the law allowing them to get jobs as journalists?
2. By your logic, we can now conclude that the religious freedom clause of the 1st amendment has no bearing on the violation of laws committed by Muslims, right ?
- Article 6, section 2 of the Constitution, US Code 2384, US Code 2385, + scores of states laws outlawing thing advocated (if not commnded) by the Koran. Right, Crick ? Right ? Right ?
Fox News' Judge Napolitano explains why Indiana's and Arkansas' initial attempts at RFRA were Constitutionally wrong.
Indiana and the Constitution Fox News
One of the few instances when I'm in agreement with the gentleman.
A point he makes that OUGHT to provoke thoughts: The Supreme Court has already decided that religious freedom does not give anyone the right to violate other laws. American Indians, for instance, can't take peyote even though their religion calls for it. Therefore, in order to put these religious freedom laws into place - which attempt to rewrite freedom of worship as defined in the First Amendment - without violating equal treatment as required by the 14th, it would be necessary for the states to define what activities are and are not part and parcel of the practice of all religions - something the First Amendment specifically prohibits them from doing.
The whole things was a bad idea from the beginning.
Very easy to refute >>
1. Gays are not "equal" to normal people. They are deranged, sex pervert degenerates. And thus, do not rate for equal protection of the law. Do murderers get equal protection of the law to keep them out of prisons ? Do insane people get equal protection of the law to keep them out of nuthouses ? Do indigent people get equal protection of the law to allow them to buy mansions ? Do illiterate people have equal protection of the law allowing them to get jobs as journalists?
2. By your logic, we can now conclude that the religious freedom clause of the 1st amendment has no bearing on the violation of laws committed by Muslims, right ?
- Article 6, section 2 of the Constitution, US Code 2384, US Code 2385, + scores of states laws outlawing thing advocated (if not commnded) by the Koran. Right, Crick ? Right ? Right ?
1. Pheeeeww!! You're really not getting this, are you ? Arkansas and Indiana are TWO states. And we're talking about THIRTY-SEVEN states. Get it ?
2. In businesses, guess who deals with fascist, Nazi gays. INDIVIDUALS, that's who (AKA PEOPLE)
3. And an option of someone losing their livelihood, so deranged degenerates can order them to violate their religion, is NOT AN OPTION.
4. I don't expect liberals to accept the simple truth of the unconstitutionality and illegality of Islam, and your perception of "no one" is only those liberals, who are the most pathetically ignorant group in America, regarding Islam and Islamization, due to the deliberate witholding of information about this in liberal media. I've shown that many times by challenging liberals with my Islamization Quiz, which no liberal has ever gotten a higher grade than 5% on. Most got zero.
5. And recognizing gay marriage, or whatever silly label you want to put on them, isn't being "ahead". It is being flat-out dumb, or bought off by rich gays..
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.The last election was a bi-term, so it is absolutely no prediction for next year, except for two points.They won elections in states all over the country, including ones that previously were locks for Democrats. Oh yeah, "elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds", if you choose to call it that. But maybe you conveniently "forgot" about Republican governor victories in Democrat bastions states like > Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois ? I'll go easy on you and just mention those 3 for now - unless I get more flack ; then we go into the whole ugly (for Democrats) picture.Bottom line > Republicans swept the last election by a landslide, and will do so again.
they won elections in backwaters inhabited by bible thumping inbreds. When everyone votes in 2016, you guys are soooooo done.
The GOP establishment realizes this. That's why they are working overtime to shut down the bigots.
As for the "bigots", that would be the gay Christian-bashers. And 2 weakling governors does not equal the "GOP establishment", but nice try.
One, the GOP was right to reach out more to women and minorities. To win next year, who ever does the best job of it next year will win.
Two, the far right of socons and neo-cons and nativists will not be able to dictate the GOP candidate much less pull a victory for the party.
Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.
Money talked to that Pizzaria all right. $842,387 in donations from tens of thousands of supporters all over the USA.Money talks....just like it talked to that Pizzaria.The 2 governors (Indiana & Arkansas) involved in the Christians vs Gays debate, regarding new RFRA laws are both Gay ass-kissing cowards. Both came out in favor of bills to protect Chriatians from discriomaination that would/could compel them to act against their Christian religion. Then, after a wave of criticism from gays and therir supporters, both of these wimps caved in, bowed down to the gays' demands, anf threw America's Christians under the bus.
We've been hearing all sorts of disingenuous comments from people on this matter. One thing that has been said is it doesn't have anything to do with discrimination. That's is just simply false. It really comes down to a matter of who do you discriminate against , and who do you cater to. Pence and Hutchinson have decided to cater to the gays and their riff-raff loudmouths, which includes hypocritical politicians, movie actors, corporations, etc. In so doing, they have chosen to discriminate against Christians, and anyone who chooses to not do business with gays.
This is going in the wrong direction. Gays SHOULD be discriminated against in certain situations, and very meticulously. Their sexual perversion should never be accepted by society, and they should be severely restricted from ever holding jobs that involve casting their opinions about (ex. coaches, clergy, etc). They should be held far away from any teaching jobs, coaching, counseling, or anything in close proximity with children.
It is puzzling why 2 governors would act in opposition to the people who went to the polls and voted for them, and elected them, and instead cave into the the mob rule babble of mentally, aberrated perverts. In any event, once burned, twice shy. Arkansas and Indiana voters should vote these 2 cowardly clowns out of office ASAP, as well as state legislators who voted to amend the original bills.
http://www.theledger.com/article/201...=2&tc=pg&tc=ar
Spoken like a true American outing the far right reactionary neo-con thugs like you. Our National Security is fine, and our citizens are placed in a good position with the continued reaching out to women and minorities.Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.[One, the GOP was right to reach out more to women and minorities. To win next year, who ever does the best job of it next year will win.
Two, the far right of socons and neo-cons and nativists will not be able to dictate the GOP candidate much less pull a victory for the party.
Money talked to that Pizzaria all right. $842,387 in donations from tens of thousands of supporters all over the USA.
Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table. This is, by far, the most dangerous time in our history, and sad to say, but nuclear annihilation of the US is a very real possiblity, with a growing complexity and difficulty to control. And with the Iran talks fiasco, we are about to see a nuclear weapon arms race in the Middle East, as if Pakistan (Obama's primary worry), North Korea, ISIS, and Iran weren't bad enough.Spoken like a true liberal. Always sucking up to the groups (women, minorities, etc) which keeps you from addressing the real overall most important issues that need to be addressed > National Security.
Our National Security isn't in danger. Terrorism might be bad and all, but it's not an existential threat to the United States like let's say the USSR or Nazi Germany.
Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table.
You doubt wrong. The are open for business, and resuming business usual. You think they need to pay attention to a few gay gooneybirds ? If any of those morons came into my business and tried to attack me, I'd shoot them dead.Money talked to that Pizzaria all right. $842,387 in donations from tens of thousands of supporters all over the USA.
well, probably a good time to retire, then. I doubt they'll be serving Pizzas again anytime soon.
It's not a matter of GIVING. It's a matter of the nutjobs TAKING. They have already attacked the warhead storage a dozen times. The Pentagon has drawn up plans to go into Pakistan and seize the 100+ warheads, and bring them back to the US, for secure storage. In response to this the Pakistanis now drive the warheads around town in ordinary cargo vans to keep the Pentagon from doing that.Didn't I say before, that you don't know what you're talking about ? If I didn't, I'm sure saying it now in response to this foolish post. EARTH TO JB: We (the sane/civilized world) are in World War III against international jihad. And this world war is a far more dangerous one to us than the previous 2 world wars ever were. That's because it now involves NUCLEAR weaponry in combination with the insanity of Muslim jihad which take mutual deterrence off the table.
Except nobody is going to give a nuclear weapon to crazy terrorists. Not even the Iranians and Pakistanis.
So argument fail.