PELOSI declares health care has passed

[Si modo]

Alinsky includes gaslighting tactics.

 

[Article 15]

You must be joking!

Clear negative consequences? Do you mean that they outlive us, or that they're healthier people in general? All in spite of the fact that they have far less money per capita then we do!

that has more to do with lifestyle.....not health care system....if you dont take care of yourself,the best health CARE on the planet is not going to help you.....that has already been proven....right here in the USA....

best health care /= best health care system

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Dems are doing everything in their power to provoke a real civil war

It's been obvious that we are heading for a civil war for years. But the audacity of the current crop of politicians is down right scary.

I think it's only a matter of time that some politician in Washington DC is going to get capped. The People are in an uproar and tempers are going to get the best of some people.

 

[Cuyo]

You must be joking!

Clear negative consequences? Do you mean that they outlive us, or that they're healthier people in general? All in spite of the fact that they have far less money per capita then we do!

that has more to do with lifestyle.....not health care system....if you dont take care of yourself,the best health CARE on the planet is not going to help you.....that has already been proven....right here in the USA....

You will receive no argument from me on that. Ours is a culture of sickness. There's no money in healthy people, and there's no money in dead people. The money is somewhere in the middle, technically alive but "addicted" to a plethora of once-daily pills.

Control cholesterol, control asthma, control blood pressure, control diabetes... That's all the private sector is concerned with, controllers, not cures. What good is curing something, no money in that. Now introducing a chemical in the bloodstream that will control the symptom, and convince the patient it needs this chemical every day for the rest of their lives... Now there's $DOLLARS$ in that.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

I urge the current crop of pretend leaders to do the reconciliation deal and push it through. One way or the other, this will do more to bring the country together than anything they have done thus far.
Either the bill will be accepted by the people, and the country will be more united;

or

The people will reject it and unite to elect another crop of leaders to repeal it.


Either way, it will do more to unite the people than anything our so-called leaders have done for years.

I am tired of the deep divisions, and look forward to a time when 'r' or 'd' has less meaning than "American".

So, I encourage the democrats that control congress to get off their butts, stop threatening and actually do something.

I don't agree. IF the healthcare bill passes through reconcilliation and IF the dems are able to get rid of the Cornhusker Kickback, the Louisiana Purchase, and the Flordia thingie thus removing the most sickening deals from the bill, then I think Americans will make their reactions to the bill based on was it good for them or not. There are 20-30 odd million (the uninsured) out there who will probably say it was good for them. So, I don't think we'll see the hugh backlash that you're anticipating.

Afterall, a majority of American are still in favor of healthcare reform.

We, the majority, are NOT in favor of THIS DEMOCRATIC "REFORM"!!!!

 

[Cuyo]

You must be joking!

Clear negative consequences? Do you mean that they outlive us, or that they're healthier people in general? All in spite of the fact that they have far less money per capita then we do!

that has more to do with lifestyle.....not health care system....if you dont take care of yourself,the best health CARE on the planet is not going to help you.....that has already been proven....right here in the USA....

best health care /= best health care system

Amen, the problem is not the system, the problem is access to the system.

 

[Cuyo]

I urge the current crop of pretend leaders to do the reconciliation deal and push it through. One way or the other, this will do more to bring the country together than anything they have done thus far.
Either the bill will be accepted by the people, and the country will be more united;

or

The people will reject it and unite to elect another crop of leaders to repeal it.


Either way, it will do more to unite the people than anything our so-called leaders have done for years.

I am tired of the deep divisions, and look forward to a time when 'r' or 'd' has less meaning than "American".

So, I encourage the democrats that control congress to get off their butts, stop threatening and actually do something.

I don't agree. IF the healthcare bill passes through reconcilliation and IF the dems are able to get rid of the Cornhusker Kickback, the Louisiana Purchase, and the Flordia thingie thus removing the most sickening deals from the bill, then I think Americans will make their reactions to the bill based on was it good for them or not. There are 20-30 odd million (the uninsured) out there who will probably say it was good for them. So, I don't think we'll see the hugh backlash that you're anticipating.

Afterall, a majority of American are still in favor of healthcare reform.

We, the majority, are NOT in favor of THIS DEMOCRATIC "REFORM"!!!!

Because they, like you, don't understand it. You've been duped by the opposition.

 

[Article 15]

I urge the current crop of pretend leaders to do the reconciliation deal and push it through. One way or the other, this will do more to bring the country together than anything they have done thus far.
Either the bill will be accepted by the people, and the country will be more united;

or

The people will reject it and unite to elect another crop of leaders to repeal it.


Either way, it will do more to unite the people than anything our so-called leaders have done for years.

I am tired of the deep divisions, and look forward to a time when 'r' or 'd' has less meaning than "American".

So, I encourage the democrats that control congress to get off their butts, stop threatening and actually do something.

I don't agree. IF the healthcare bill passes through reconcilliation and IF the dems are able to get rid of the Cornhusker Kickback, the Louisiana Purchase, and the Flordia thingie thus removing the most sickening deals from the bill, then I think Americans will make their reactions to the bill based on was it good for them or not. There are 20-30 odd million (the uninsured) out there who will probably say it was good for them. So, I don't think we'll see the hugh backlash that you're anticipating.

Afterall, a majority of American are still in favor of healthcare reform.

We, the majority, are NOT in favor of THIS DEMOCRATIC "REFORM"!!!!

And we are FOR DIFFERENT FUCKING REASONS!!!

A chunk of that "majority" in which you speak is againt the bill because it DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

There's not going to be a Civil War, fucktards.

Sure, ignore history.

I repeat, there's not going to be a Civil War, fucktard.

It's healthcare reform. Get the fuck over yourself.

How did you get to be a super moderator with that sort of language toward someone who bothers to express an opinion on this board and helps to make this place relevant? Nobody is being abusive to you or your opinion. With that said, there WILL BE A CIVIL WAR because this healthcare bill isn't about health; it's about taking control of 1/6 of the American economy.

 

[Article 15]

Sure, ignore history.

I repeat, there's not going to be a Civil War, fucktard.

It's healthcare reform. Get the fuck over yourself.

How did you get to be a super moderator with that sort of language toward someone who bothers to express an opinion on this board? Nobody is being abusive to you or your opinion. With that said, there WILL BE A CIVIL WAR because this healthcare bill isn't about health; it's about taking control of 1/6 of the American economy.

There will be NO FUCKING civil war, you fucking drama queen. There isn't even a fucking public option in this bill let alone a gov't takeover of the health care industry.

I fucking dare you to fire the first shot, tough guy.

 

[Si modo]

Sadly, I think that we are at a historic moment right now in this country. I do not underestimated the dissent at all.

 

[Modbert]

Sadly, I think that we are at a historic moment right now in this country. I do not underestimated the dissent at all.

There will be no civil war. Period.

 

[Article 15]

Sadly, I think that we are at a historic moment right now in this country. I do not underestimated the dissent at all.

Dissent at the voting booth is fine but anyone who takes up arms and tries to start a violent war will be put the fuck down FAST.

 

[Ame®icano]

House Democrats looking at 'Slaughter Solution' to pass Obamacare without a vote on Senate bill UPDATED!

 

[Modbert]

There will be NO FUCKING civil war, you fucking drama queen. There isn't even a fucking public option in this bill let alone a gov't takeover of the health care industry.

I fucking dare you to fire the first shot, tough guy.

Oh Art, don't you know? People like AvgGuy think that because they lost at the voting booth in 2008, they have a right to revolt. After all, our Founding Fathers would of never wanted a blac- socialist man as POTUS.

 

[Political Junky]

Wingnuts are doing their best to stir up a revolution. Hell, the nutjob Governor of Texas, Perry, threatened to secede, and it won him the votes of the far right crazies.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

I repeat, there's not going to be a Civil War, fucktard.

It's healthcare reform. Get the fuck over yourself.

How did you get to be a super moderator with that sort of language toward someone who bothers to express an opinion on this board? Nobody is being abusive to you or your opinion. With that said, there WILL BE A CIVIL WAR because this healthcare bill isn't about health; it's about taking control of 1/6 of the American economy.

There will be NO FUCKING civil war, you fucking drama queen. There isn't even a fucking public option in this bill let alone a gov't takeover of the health care industry.

I fucking dare you to fire the first shot, tough guy.

I dont' care that you gave me 116 negative reps with your BIG powerful REP numbers, my previous statement stands. Shame on you.

 

[elvis]

There's not going to be a Civil War, fucktards.

Sure, ignore history.

what history is that?

 

[Modbert]

I dont' care that you gave me 116 negative reps with your BIG powerful REP numbers, my previous statement stands. Shame on you.

Your previous statement was and still is bullshit. Shame on you for actually wasting bandwidth by posting such bullshit.

 

[elvis]

How did you get to be a super moderator with that sort of language toward someone who bothers to express an opinion on this board? Nobody is being abusive to you or your opinion. With that said, there WILL BE A CIVIL WAR because this healthcare bill isn't about health; it's about taking control of 1/6 of the American economy.

There will be NO FUCKING civil war, you fucking drama queen. There isn't even a fucking public option in this bill let alone a gov't takeover of the health care industry.

I fucking dare you to fire the first shot, tough guy.

I dont' care that you gave me 116 negative reps with your BIG powerful REP numbers, my previous statement stands. Shame on you.

if you don't care about the neg-rep, why bring it up on in public?