Peace deal

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    Israel withdraws to '67 borders, except for Jerusalem, which it keeps. Israeli settlers become citizens of Palestine, and no Israeli soldiers in the Jordan Valley. Palestine should have no military. No Palestinian "refugees" or their descendants can come back to Israel--they must be absorbed inside of Palestine. If Hamas wants to be taken seriously, they must recognise Israel and renounce terror. Special arrangements must be worked out for Abraham, Rachel, and Joseph's Tombs. "End of conflict" papers to be signed, with no further demands ever. Take it or leave it.
     
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    Mr. Tinmore, what do you think of the peace plan I outlined? And what do you think of Netanyahu's address to Congress?
     
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    Whose position is that?

    Is it yours?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Too many clunkers.

    '67 borders unacceptable to most Israelis and Palestinians.

    Jerusalem will not fly with the Palestinians.

    Some Israeli settlers would not mind but the religious freakazoid ones would object.

    Israel is super paranoid about no troops in the Jordan Valley.

    The right of return is an individual right that cannot be negotiated away by third parties.

    Hamas is irrelevant. It is just an elected political party. Like one woman in Gaza said. "We put them in - we can take them out."
     
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    Mr. Tinmore, you did not answer the 2nd part of my question. What did you think of Netanyahu's speech to Congress?
     
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    If you'd put World in the title, you'd be a White Supremacist.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Besides needing a barf bag and hip boots?
     
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    Obviously, everything to do with this conflict could be described as unreasonable, crazy, unrealistic, etc. But here is my critique of your plan:

    There is no reason for Israel to have to give up settlements that are adjacent to the '67 lines when both sides agree that Israel could give the same amount of unpopulated territory in return for these settlements. While I enjoy the idea of telling the settlers that they can stay where they are and they don't need to move, they will just change nationalities, it is also unrealistic.

    There are plenty of Arabs in East Jerusalem. This should be the capital of any Palestinian state. Without it being the capital, the Palestinians will have been "defeated," the deal will seem unfair and the conflict will never end.

    How would you define an army? Having a strong police force and the ability to defend boarders will be in Israel's interest.

    Hamas goes away when progress is achieved on peace and economic development. Therefore, if Israel were to behave in a reasonable manner the threat from Hamas would be greatly diminished.

    Netanyahu's speech to Congress was brilliant. He has solved his coalition issues and managed to make the Congress look stupid for believing him at the same time. Its a shame he doesn't want peace and has failed the state of Israel strategically. The past great leaders are turning over in their graves.
     

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