Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand

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    Supposedly the queen of the objectivists, Ayn Rand, was a big influence on Paul Ryan in college. He has since distanced himself from her thinking. Rand championed uber-individualism over collectivism (she was actually Alice Rosenthal or something, a Russian-born Jew, I believe).

    Does Ayn Rand have anything to contribute to modern policy? Is "self" the ultimate temporal reality?
     
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    I think She has a lot to offer. I think She also had limits.
     
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    I don't think it hurts to read Rand at all. I find Her Novels a breath of fresh air.
     
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    Ayn Rand has nothing at all to offer. Her philosophy Objectivism is the celebration of the sociopath, nothing more. In the end, she was just like every other fool who proclaims boldly that everyone must fend for themselves or be labeled parasite, she took government assistance...to pay for her medical treatments...for lung cancer...because she smoked.

    When Ayn was found out, her lawyer said:

    Aint it great when the hypocrites are found out?




    ( and yes, I have read The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged and We, The Living. Ive read some of her non fiction as well as several books by her follower and one time lover, Nathaiel Branden.

    Objectivism is a joke. )
     
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    She's kind of like Rand Paul and Paul Ryan. All three taking government money and benefits while telling others it's evil because it steals from others.


     
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    It IS evil to steal from others.

    Asking that others not steal from you is not.
     
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    Ryan got his ass kicked regarding Ayn Rand a few months back. Listen to Ayn explain her feelings about abortion.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0yUjMklVuI]Ayn Rand on Abortion - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmW19uoyuO8]Paul Ryan on Ayn Rand - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Then when called on this by the Catholic Bishops, said that he was an admirer St. Aguines. However, never has he required his staffers to read St. Aquinas as he has required them to read Ayn Rand. This is not a man I would want a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
     
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