and it's pretty great being me.
Good for you Jillian. Many people would benefit from telling themselves that everyday.
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and it's pretty great being me.
Good for you Jillian. Many people would benefit from telling themselves that everyday.
I wonder how much money raising the retirement age to 68 or 70 would save.
I wonder how much money raising the retirement age to 68 or 70 would save.
But in my humble opinion, all that does is cheat those who have paid into it for so long out of the benefits that they are entitled to.
Where is the fairness in that.
Also, keeping with that line of thinking, why don't we just move the retirement age to 99 years/9 months, think of all the damned money we'd save there!
Immie
When it was set up, the age to get SS benefits was above the average life expectancy.
It's been a scam since day one.
I wonder how much money raising the retirement age to 68 or 70 would save.
But in my humble opinion, all that does is cheat those who have paid into it for so long out of the benefits that they are entitled to.
Where is the fairness in that.
Also, keeping with that line of thinking, why don't we just move the retirement age to 99 years/9 months, think of all the damned money we'd save there!
Immie
True, but our life expectancy has grown since SS's conception decades ago. Raising the age would help "balance" things back out in a way, I suppose.
Gotta love the party of no... the imbecile ihopehefails crowd blocks legislation and then the wingnuts blame president obama because the rates aren't being fixed... .
loons...
Obama faults Senate Republicans for blocking 'doc fix'
By Silla Brush - 06/12/10 06:00 AM ET
President Barack Obama on Saturday blamed Senate Republicans for blocking legislation that would help doctors by preventing cuts in their Medicare payments.
The president said that without congressional action, the cuts "could lead seniors to lose their doctors."
In his weekly address, Obama said the so-called "doc fix" has been approved by Congress when it was under both Democratic and Republican control. Democrats are looking to prevent a 21 percent cut in payments as part of a broader tax and spending package.
"Some Senate Republicans may even block a vote on this issue," Obama said. "After years of voting to defer these cuts, the other party is now willing to walk away from the needs of our doctors and our seniors."
Obama faults Senate Republicans for blocking 'doc fix' - TheHill.com
Not irrelevant at all...It was the feature that kept the Ponzi scheme afloat for as long as it remained so.
And if it doesn't go away, it'll be the death of the value of the USD, as there is no political courage to make even the most superficial changes to the program.
Could sell to whom?
Do you realize the demographic pile-up there is, of people who are on the cusp of getting their ride on the gravy train?
Could sell to whom?
Do you realize the demographic pile-up there is, of people who are on the cusp of getting their ride on the gravy train?
All of the Americans who are apparently upset at the out of control spending. I mean, I sure read a lot about that.
I agree that a just cutting off the faucet wouldn't work. I would stagger when it comes into effect. In other words, if you are 60-65 when the legislation goes into effect it doesn't effect you ... 58-59 you can retire at 66, 56-57 you retire at 67, etc.
A LOT of people never really retire at all.Could sell to whom?
Do you realize the demographic pile-up there is, of people who are on the cusp of getting their ride on the gravy train?
All of the Americans who are apparently upset at the out of control spending. I mean, I sure read a lot about that.
I agree that a just cutting off the faucet wouldn't work. I would stagger when it comes into effect. In other words, if you are 60-65 when the legislation goes into effect it doesn't effect you ... 58-59 you can retire at 66, 56-57 you retire at 67, etc.
But in my humble opinion, all that does is cheat those who have paid into it for so long out of the benefits that they are entitled to.
Where is the fairness in that.
Also, keeping with that line of thinking, why don't we just move the retirement age to 99 years/9 months, think of all the damned money we'd save there!
Immie
True, but our life expectancy has grown since SS's conception decades ago. Raising the age would help "balance" things back out in a way, I suppose.
True in that sense, however, I still believe the issue is more than just saving money in this case.
So many things have changed in the financial markets since SS was established. It is my belief that the citizens of this still great nation would be better off if we weaned ourselves off of Social Security AND established a privatized system. I do not believe we should leave it up to the people to decide IF they want to set up a retirement plan, because too many would do what I did and say... "I'll do it later". Later... anything later than today... is too frigging late!
Note: we would still need a fund for those families that loose their main breadwinner to either early death or disability, but that could easily be established.
Immie
A LOT of people never really retire at all.Could sell to whom?
Do you realize the demographic pile-up there is, of people who are on the cusp of getting their ride on the gravy train?
All of the Americans who are apparently upset at the out of control spending. I mean, I sure read a lot about that.
I agree that a just cutting off the faucet wouldn't work. I would stagger when it comes into effect. In other words, if you are 60-65 when the legislation goes into effect it doesn't effect you ... 58-59 you can retire at 66, 56-57 you retire at 67, etc.
Turns out that clipping coupons and playing bingo all day gets stale after awhile.
Handing a bunch of your rightful earnings over to a bunch of Washington bureaucrats is hardly "building personal retirement and savings", as the current problem with OASI demonstrates in spades.A LOT of people never really retire at all.All of the Americans who are apparently upset at the out of control spending. I mean, I sure read a lot about that.
I agree that a just cutting off the faucet wouldn't work. I would stagger when it comes into effect. In other words, if you are 60-65 when the legislation goes into effect it doesn't effect you ... 58-59 you can retire at 66, 56-57 you retire at 67, etc.
Turns out that clipping coupons and playing bingo all day gets stale after awhile.
Three more years to work and build their personal retirement and savings wont help out? Working a couple of extra years usually means a strong boost in annual income in retirement, does it not?