Paris to ban all petrol and diesel cars by 2030

[Toddsterpatriot]

Most. That's why you never hear any environmentalists pushing nuclear to reduce CO2.

Not at all. The reason is that the technology of the renewables has become cheap enough that fossil fuels and nuclear will be priced out of the market. And the renewables do not have the hazards that are inherent in nuclear.

Excellent news.
That means we can eliminate all renewable subsidies and mandates.

"That means we can eliminate all renewable subsidies and mandates."


Suuure, right after we do so for fossil fuels.

Darn those oil companies, deducting expenses in order to calculate profit. DERP!
Just ending mandates would cripple most "renewable" energy companies.

You characterization of fuel subsidies tells me you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

Do you consider depletion allowances a subsidy? If so, why?
Do you consider writing off drilling expenses a subsidy? If so, why?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not at all. The reason is that the technology of the renewables has become cheap enough that fossil fuels and nuclear will be priced out of the market. And the renewables do not have the hazards that are inherent in nuclear.

Excellent news.
That means we can eliminate all renewable subsidies and mandates.

"That means we can eliminate all renewable subsidies and mandates."


Suuure, right after we do so for fossil fuels.

Darn those oil companies, deducting expenses in order to calculate profit. DERP!
Just ending mandates would cripple most "renewable" energy companies.

You characterization of fuel subsidies tells me you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

Do you consider depletion allowances a subsidy? If so, why?
Do you consider writing off drilling expenses a subsidy? If so, why?

Uh oh, Todd said something dumb again and is hitting up Google...

No Todd, not all fossil fuel subsidies are expense write offs. That's just a fact.

 

[Old Rocks]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

 

[anotherlife]

Paris bans petroleum? Interesting. Now that Beijing has gone from bicycles only to full motor car city, Paris is going from full motor car city to bicycles only. Hehehe.

 

[anotherlife]

Actually, this is more interesting than I thought. If Paris bans anything but electric cars, then the Paris inhabitants will never have the range to escape when something massive is inflicted on their city. Would the French government inflict anything on Paris?

 

[Old Rocks]

You mean 300 miles is not far enough away?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

 

[anotherlife]

You mean 300 miles is not far enough away?

Not really because they would have no chargers there, or the charger entry code would be altered. A gasoline car could run on even alcohol although very crappily.

 

[anotherlife]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

Wind has already depleted, because almost every wind farm I have ever seen was immobile or turned by gasoline motor for maintenance.

 

[skookerasbil]

Paris bans petroleum? Interesting. Now that Beijing has gone from bicycles only to full motor car city, Paris is going from full motor car city to bicycles only. Hehehe.

By 2030, we have to remember that France will be a majority Muslim country with elected Muslim leadership. The whole country may be riding around on camels by the mid-2030's.

 

[Old Rocks]

You mean 300 miles is not far enough away?

Not really because they would have no chargers there, or the charger entry code would be altered. A gasoline car could run on even alcohol although very crappily.

LOL Over a thousand Tesla super charging stations in Europe, scroll down to the map at this link;

Superchargeur | Tesla France

Be nice if you 'Conservatives' would actually look up what you are flapping yap about before displaying your vast ignorance.

 

[Old Rocks]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

Wind has already depleted, because almost every wind farm I have ever seen was immobile or turned by gasoline motor for maintenance.

Fucking dumb, a lie that is so easy to refute.

US wind generation reached 5.5% of the grid in 2016

US wind generation reached 5.5% of the grid in 2016
5 Heartland states now more than 20% wind-powered
March 6, 2017

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Iowa, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma and North Dakota all sourced more than 20 percent of their electricity generation from wind power during 2016, according to new data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). It shows wind supplied over 5.5 percent of electricity nationwide, up from 4.7 percent in 2015.

With 99 percent of wind turbines located in rural areas, wind power’s steady growth as a share of the nation’s electricity supply has been accompanied by a surge of investment in rural America. The industry invested over $13.8 billion in new turbines last year, according to the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA), in addition to operating a fleet now over 52,000 turbines.

“Wind is now cheaply and reliably supplying more than 20 percent of the electricity in five states and is a testament to American leadership and innovation,” said Tom Kiernan, AWEA CEO. “For these states, and across America, wind is welcome because it means jobs, investment, and a better tomorrow for rural communities.”

 

[Old Rocks]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits

Depletion allowance isn't a subsidy.

 

[Old Rocks]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits

Depletion allowance isn't a subsidy.

LOL So you keep braying. So, if it is not, let wind and solar have it, also. LOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits

Depletion allowance isn't a subsidy.

LOL So you keep braying. So, if it is not, let wind and solar have it, also. LOL

Well, if you buy an oil well with 1 million recoverable barrels and you extract 100,000 barrels, you've depleted your deposit by 10%.

Where is the similar depletion for solar and wind?

 

[Old Rocks]

By golly, let us go with the depletion allowances. And give them to the wind and solar farms, as well.

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits

Depletion allowance isn't a subsidy.

LOL So you keep braying. So, if it is not, let wind and solar have it, also. LOL

Well, if you buy an oil well with 1 million recoverable barrels and you extract 100,000 barrels, you've depleted your deposit by 10%.

Where is the similar depletion for solar and wind?

None at all. Isn't that wonderful? But why should we give them a subsidy for making a profit on that 10%? Perhaps they should give people a subsidy for the fact that every year that we work means that we are one year closer to the time we cannot work. Same logic.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As soon as wind and solar deplete like an oil deposit depletes, that will work.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits, but not use them for wind and solar. Nice piece of hypocrisy.

So it is ok to use those to subsidize the coal and oil deposits

Depletion allowance isn't a subsidy.

LOL So you keep braying. So, if it is not, let wind and solar have it, also. LOL

Well, if you buy an oil well with 1 million recoverable barrels and you extract 100,000 barrels, you've depleted your deposit by 10%.

Where is the similar depletion for solar and wind?

None at all. Isn't that wonderful? But why should we give them a subsidy for making a profit on that 10%? Perhaps they should give people a subsidy for the fact that every year that we work means that we are one year closer to the time we cannot work. Same logic.

But why should we give them a subsidy for making a profit on that 10%?

Writing off depletion or depreciation or COGS or interest expense isn't a subsidy.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yappity yap yap, repeating the same thing over and over does not change what you are saying. Coal gets more subsidies from the government than does renewables.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yappity yap yap, repeating the same thing over and over does not change what you are saying. Coal gets more subsidies from the government than does renewables.

If you say so.