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Probably up his ass, where all his ideas originate.
You're seriously defending this?
Aren't you supposed to be a Libertarian?
I am, and I have no problem with it. if we have a National government that is supposed to be responsible for the sovereignty of our borders, then they should at LEAST do THAT instead of spending it's time taking over private sector industries.
So...85% or the time your ID is in your wallet in your right rear pocket. If you were stopped, you would properly identify yourself and the police would verify your identity in a couple of minutes. You are on your way. Why are you giving illegal folks a break?
Because 15% of the time I don't have my wallet.
And if I happened to be of Hispanic decent in the area in question, I would be detained and arrested.
Probably up his ass, where all his ideas originate.
You're seriously defending this?
Aren't you supposed to be a Libertarian?
So...85% or the time your ID is in your wallet in your right rear pocket. If you were stopped, you would properly identify yourself and the police would verify your identity in a couple of minutes. You are on your way. Why are you giving illegal folks a break?
Because 15% of the time I don't have my wallet.
And if I happened to be of Hispanic decent in the area in question, I would be detained and arrested.
Detained? Probably until you can be indentified. Arrested? Depends on if you have outstanding warrants out. You will not be arrested for not having proper ID, unless you're driving an automobile then, well, then you should be arrested because you're violating the law.
Whatever.
The idiot you put in office is the biggest fascist in this nation; yet, you want o cry about civil liberties?
What specific personal civil liberties of yours have been abridged by the Obama administration, besides the "right" to scam everyone by going without medical insurance?
Detained? Probably until you can be indentified. Arrested? Depends on if you have outstanding warrants out. You will not be arrested for not having proper ID, unless you're driving an automobile then, well, then you should be arrested because you're violating the law.
Yes you will, the law we are talking about made it a crime to not be carrying identification.
Detained? Probably until you can be indentified. Arrested? Depends on if you have outstanding warrants out. You will not be arrested for not having proper ID, unless you're driving an automobile then, well, then you should be arrested because you're violating the law.
Yes you will, the law we are talking about made it a crime to not be carrying identification.
Nope. We all have to have ID. We have to have Social Security cards to work and driver's licenses to drive, and photo ID's to buy alcohol, and/or tobacco or have a bank account or get a job.
Your argument doesn't wash.
Ah, but the problem here Gunny, is this makes it a crime to not have your ID on your person. They can literally throw you in jail if you don't have your "papers".
That is most certainly a "police state" action, quite reminiscent of Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany.
No it doesn't. It says you may be detained until identity is established. The crime is illegal immigration; which, is a crime and has been.
Nothing police state about that. Carry your ID. I've been carrying one for 40 years. This is a case of the left feigning and sensationalizing a lot about nothing.
FOXNews.com - Arizona Immigration Enforcement Bill Stirs National Debate
An Arizona bill that would impose some of the toughest immigration laws in the country is generating a storm of controversy nationwide as it tracks toward the governor's desk.
The Arizona Senate voted Monday to approve the final version of the bill, which was voted up on a party-line vote by the state House last Tuesday. If it's signed by Gov. Jan Brewer, it would give police in the state broad new powers to arrest and charge people suspected of being in the country illegally.
so glad the small government conservatives of the republican party are working to preserve people's freedom
Suppose one was blond and blue eyed. Would they still get asked by the cops to show ID? There are illegal immigrants from Scandinavia too.I don't have a problem with racial profiling as long as it keep illegal wetbacks out of the country. So a police asking you for ID is harrassment?
And what happens if you don't have your ID on you?
You're subject to be detained.
Suppose one was blond and blue eyed. Would they still get asked by the cops to show ID? There are illegal immigrants from Scandinavia too.And what happens if you don't have your ID on you?
You're subject to be detained.
Or is this little bit of totalitarianism used exclusively for Latinos?
Anything to erode liberty! That's the Conservative way!
Not exactly.
11. Specifies that, in addition to any violation of federal law, a person is guilty of trespassing if the person is:
a) present on any public or private land in the state and
b) is not carrying his or her alien registration card or has willfully failed to register.
SB1070 - 492R - Senate Fact Sheet
Not exactly.
11. Specifies that, in addition to any violation of federal law, a person is guilty of trespassing if the person is:
a) present on any public or private land in the state and
b) is not carrying his or her alien registration card or has willfully failed to register.
SB1070 - 492R - Senate Fact Sheet
Which means that any person who resembles an illegal alien, in other words most of the sizable Hispanic population of the state and anyone else that has darker skin and an accent, will be arrested if they don't have ID on them.
Yes if you're an illegal alien and you do not have valid ID your ass will be arrested and deported. If you are a citizen of the United States of America and you do not have proper ID, you will detained until your legal status can be determined. Which would take me about two minutes to determine.
Answer me this, what state do you currently reside in and have you ever lived in a southern border state?
Yes if you're an illegal alien and you do not have valid ID your ass will be arrested and deported. If you are a citizen of the United States of America and you do not have proper ID, you will detained until your legal status can be determined. Which would take me about two minutes to determine.
Answer me this, what state do you currently reside in and have you ever lived in a southern border state?
I'm sorry, but how is "detained" different from "arrested", besides the legal mumbo-jumbo?
I live just outside the New York City limits, and though I have not lived in a southern border state, there are a hell of a lot of illegals here, so I know just what you're going through.
There's about 100 of them that line up in the morning outside the local grocery store to find day labor.
Ah, but the problem here Gunny, is this makes it a crime to not have your ID on your person. They can literally throw you in jail if you don't have your "papers".
That is most certainly a "police state" action, quite reminiscent of Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany.
No it doesn't. It says you may be detained until identity is established. The crime is illegal immigration; which, is a crime and has been.
Nothing police state about that. Carry your ID. I've been carrying one for 40 years. This is a case of the left feigning and sensationalizing a lot about nothing.
GUNNY, Your facing off again with opponents those who's 'ammo belts' are empty?
Suppose one was blond and blue eyed. Would they still get asked by the cops to show ID? There are illegal immigrants from Scandinavia too.And what happens if you don't have your ID on you?
You're subject to be detained.
Or is this little bit of totalitarianism used exclusively for Latinos?
Anything to erode liberty! That's the Conservative way!
... is on US ILLEGALLY.
