TheGreatGatsby
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Panetta is a yes man with no military experience. That shows how committed Obama was to defense in the first place.
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If we had a competent Executive Branch, it would have taken more seriously its duties of providing for the common defense of the American soil our embassy is supposed to be..We could have tried something,anything.
Or we could have done everything to save those people.
We had choices and it seems like our leader just decided
to ignore it.Did he have an appearance on Jay Leno he was
prepping for.
The embassy isn't "American Soil". That's an "artificial" construct set up between nations to provide an area of diplomatic immunity to conduct international business and discussions.
That construct can go away just as easily as it is granted. And there is no constitutional mandate to defend that land.
Which is why our diplomats take some pretty big risks when dealing in fragile or hostile countries.
And they know that risk is part of the job.
Is there any doubt? There was a Marine base close enough to offer Helicopter gun ship support and the embassy was within the striking distance for US fighter planes. The president watched the 7 hour battle in real time and did nothing even when Veteran Seals called for help. With the cooperation of the US media the president managed to blame a You Tube movie promo that nobody ever saw.
For all the questions on Libya, we have the answer to one very big one. That question being "why weren't the victims rescued".
The answer comes from the Defense Secretary in a press conference. Now liberals this is not Fox News or Faux News as you like to call that media outlet reporting on rumor.
This is Panetta in his own words and my link is to the Washington Post.
He openly admits...
Personally, I think they weighed the World Wide Political repercussions, and decided to stand down and do nothing. They placed their concerns for how we are viewed outside of the US, over American Lives, sacrificing Americans to the angry horde. Of course, the Right thing to do, was to Intervene and Rescue those in harm's way. A trust was broken and covered up. We do get the Government we deserve.
Personally, I think they weighed the World Wide Political repercussions, and decided to stand down and do nothing. They placed their concerns for how we are viewed outside of the US, over American Lives, sacrificing Americans to the angry horde. Of course, the Right thing to do, was to Intervene and Rescue those in harm's way. A trust was broken and covered up. We do get the Government we deserve.
Panetta is a yes man with no military experience. That shows how committed Obama was to defense in the first place.
Send troops in before we know what is happening?
cool
the right wing demands another Black Hawk Down?
Send troops in before we know what is happening?
cool
the right wing demands another Black Hawk Down?
Send troops in before we know what is happening?
cool
the right wing demands another Black Hawk Down?
For a Rescue and Evac, damned right.
Personally, I think they weighed the World Wide Political repercussions, and decided to stand down and do nothing. They placed their concerns for how we are viewed outside of the US, over American Lives, sacrificing Americans to the angry horde. Of course, the Right thing to do, was to Intervene and Rescue those in harm's way. A trust was broken and covered up. We do get the Government we deserve.
you think this is of greater importance than ignoring state department warnings about what would happen if we went into baghdad?
because of that little adventure, 4000 of our bravest died.
you think this is of greater importance than ignoring daily security briefings and allowing 3,000 new yorkers to die?
just wondering. because i don't recall seeing hysteria from the right about those things. in fact, i recall just the opposite.
If we had a competent Executive Branch, it would have taken more seriously its duties of providing for the common defense of the American soil our embassy is supposed to be..We could have tried something,anything.
Or we could have done everything to save those people.
We had choices and it seems like our leader just decided
to ignore it.Did he have an appearance on Jay Leno he was
prepping for.
The embassy isn't "American Soil". That's an "artificial" construct set up between nations to provide an area of diplomatic immunity to conduct international business and discussions.
That construct can go away just as easily as it is granted. And there is no constitutional mandate to defend that land.
Which is why our diplomats take some pretty big risks when dealing in fragile or hostile countries.
And they know that risk is part of the job.
It is claimed there was a drone which provided enough intelligence for the CIA to send personnel in. Having more personnel and materiel available did not do the job as they were not sent in. Working with the Libyans for protection did not do the job. This was a total failure on many fronts. I do not think jets strafing the area would have helped, but, helicopters would have been a more effective means to move in the area and provide protection and back up.
It is claimed there was a drone which provided enough intelligence for the CIA to send personnel in. Having more personnel and materiel available did not do the job as they were not sent in. Working with the Libyans for protection did not do the job. This was a total failure on many fronts. I do not think jets strafing the area would have helped, but, helicopters would have been a more effective means to move in the area and provide protection and back up.
I just want answers. To some very crucial questions.
When I witness the Secretary of Defense going "its too risky to send in a rescue team"
I have to I must think "OK buddy. the consulate is surrounded by gerbils. Can we send someone in now or is that one too risky"
And I can and will attest to I will never ever baby sit a degu ever again in my life, long story,
But how Panetta failed these men is beyond a bazooka barf. I've never seen the like.
I care.For all the questions on Libya, we have the answer to one very big one. That question being "why weren't the victims rescued".
The answer comes from the Defense Secretary in a press conference. Now liberals this is not Fox News or Faux News as you like to call that media outlet reporting on rumor.
This is Panetta in his own words and my link is to the Washington Post.
He openly admits...
who cares?
If we had a competent Executive Branch, it would have taken more seriously its duties of providing for the common defense of the American soil our embassy is supposed to be..We could have tried something,anything.
Or we could have done everything to save those people.
We had choices and it seems like our leader just decided
to ignore it.Did he have an appearance on Jay Leno he was
prepping for.
The embassy isn't "American Soil". That's an "artificial" construct set up between nations to provide an area of diplomatic immunity to conduct international business and discussions.
That construct can go away just as easily as it is granted. And there is no constitutional mandate to defend that land.
Which is why our diplomats take some pretty big risks when dealing in fragile or hostile countries.
And they know that risk is part of the job.