Palestine Today

[USAF 2023]

He should hold his breath until it happens

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel prevents Palestinian children Yamen & Mohammed Arja from visiting their Captive father in prison under pretext "security concerns.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

In other posts and pictures, you show Gazans at pools and at horse-riding competitions. Only the privileged can participate in horse-riding competitions. Make up your mind.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two state solution impossible.

 

[USAF 2023]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two state solution impossible.

Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine

Another lie; Keep posting!

 

[Shusha]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two state solution impossible.

Why is the two-state solution impossible?

 

[USAF 2023]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two state solution impossible.

Why is the two-state solution impossible?

Why? THIS is the Reason


PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

Here's another one. This is just for starters Look at my prior post. That says it all

 

[Shusha]

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two state solution impossible.

Why is the two-state solution impossible?

Why? THIS is the Reason


PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

Here's another one. This is just for starters Look at my prior post. That says it all

How does this prevent a two-state solution?

 

[Shusha]

Israel prevents Palestinian children Yamen & Mohammed Arja from visiting their Captive father in prison under pretext "security concerns.

Their father Wael Arja? The terrorist who killed a man and his son in a stone-throwing attack?

 

[Shusha]

If you can't look at these two photos are recognize blind, unsubstantiated, antisemitic propaganda, you are insane.

 

[Shusha]

15 YEAR OLD SHOT IN BOTH FEET IS #HANDCUFFED TO HOSPITAL BED Why is his left hand handcuffed to the hospital bed when he is completely immobile

Information on this incident is VERY scare (limited to a single source).

It appears this young man was part of the attacks on LEOs in the process of making arrests a couple of days ago. The attacks were serious enough that LEOs were forced to use live fire when tear gas did not disperse the attackers.

This young man would appear to be under arrest for acts of violence. He is under guard at the hospital during his recovery.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, ForeverYoung436, et al,

Well, of course, the simplest answer is usually the most correct answer.

BLUF: No!

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two-state solution impossible.

(COMMENT)

The thought that "Israel has made the two-state solution impossible" is totally incorrect and a case of refusing to accept the reality of events.

• The first Arab-Israeli war, 1948-1949 •

On 14 May 1948, Britain relinquished its Mandate over Palestine and disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. Fierce hostilities immediately broke out between the Arab and Jewish communities. The next day, regular troops of the neighboring Arab States entered the territory to assist the Palestinian Arabs.

On that day Mid-Night 14/15 May 1948, there were two entities:

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

◈ The rejected allocation of the Arab State that was subsequently overrun by action of the Arab League.​

It was the Arab Higher Committee and the warlike act of aggression by Arab Force that disrupted the two-state solution and through a cascade of events, leads the region to the condition we have today.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, ForeverYoung436, et al,

Well, of course, the simplest answer is usually the most correct answer.

BLUF: No!

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two-state solution impossible.

(COMMENT)

The thought that "Israel has made the two-state solution impossible" is totally incorrect and a case of refusing to accept the reality of events.

• The first Arab-Israeli war, 1948-1949 •

On 14 May 1948, Britain relinquished its Mandate over Palestine and disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. Fierce hostilities immediately broke out between the Arab and Jewish communities. The next day, regular troops of the neighboring Arab States entered the territory to assist the Palestinian Arabs.

On that day Mid-Night 14/15 May 1948, there were two entities:

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

◈ The rejected allocation of the Arab State that was subsequently overrun by action of the Arab League.​

It was the Arab Higher Committee and the warlike act of aggression by Arab Force that disrupted the two-state solution and through a cascade of events, leads the region to the condition we have today.

Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that had nothing to do with Resolution 181. There was no legitimacy.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, ForeverYoung436, et al,

Well, of course, the simplest answer is usually the most correct answer.

BLUF: No!

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two-state solution impossible.

(COMMENT)

The thought that "Israel has made the two-state solution impossible" is totally incorrect and a case of refusing to accept the reality of events.

• The first Arab-Israeli war, 1948-1949 •

On 14 May 1948, Britain relinquished its Mandate over Palestine and disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. Fierce hostilities immediately broke out between the Arab and Jewish communities. The next day, regular troops of the neighboring Arab States entered the territory to assist the Palestinian Arabs.

On that day Mid-Night 14/15 May 1948, there were two entities:

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

◈ The rejected allocation of the Arab State that was subsequently overrun by action of the Arab League.​

It was the Arab Higher Committee and the warlike act of aggression by Arab Force that disrupted the two-state solution and through a cascade of events, leads the region to the condition we have today.

Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that had nothing to do with Resolution 181. There was no legitimacy.

The Creation of Israel that the U,N. approved of had no legitimacy? Then their demand Israel go back to borders that were NOT recognized as part of " Palestine" is illegitimate. Thanks for posting

 

[Shusha]

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that had nothing to do with Resolution 181. There was no legitimacy.

National self-determination is, by DEFINITION, unilateral. The legitimacy comes in the fulfillment of the requirements for sovereignty and through recognition. Israel was recognized, unofficially, in 1917 and officially in 1949.

Get. Over. It.

 

[USAF 2023]

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that had nothing to do with Resolution 181. There was no legitimacy.

National self-determination is, by DEFINITION, unilateral. The legitimacy comes in the fulfillment of the requirements for sovereignty and through recognition. Israel was recognized, unofficially, in 1917 and officially in 1949.

Get. Over. It.

He can't and never will...…………….

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, ForeverYoung436, et al,

You want this (terribly) to be true. And you are certainly entitled to speak your mind and let you opinion known. But, you have not intitled to your own facts.

On November 29, 1947, The UN General Assembly voted to partition the British mandate into Jewish and Arab states. The Arabs of Palestine, supported by the Arab League, adamantly opposed the partition, and the first of four major wars began following news of the UN vote. The first war of 1947–1949 contains two identifiably separate conflicts: the Arab-Jewish communal war of November 30, 1947–May 14, 1948, which included volunteer forces from other Arab states as well as Palestinian Arabs, and the Israeli War of Independence, which began on May 15, 1948, a day after the ending of the British mandate and with the founding of the State of Israel.

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In August 1947 the UN recommended granting Palestine its independence. The UN also developed a plan for partitioning Palestine into separate Arab and Jewish states. Jerusalem was to be classified as an international area under the UN in order to preclude conflict over its status. Although the Arab population in Palestine
was then 1.2 million people and the Jews numbered just 600,000, the UN plan granted the proposed Jewish state some 55 percent of the land and the Arab state only 45 percent. The Arab states rejected the partition plan, which included an economic union. The Jews generally accepted it. The UN General Assembly approved the plan in November 1947, and the British government announced that it would accept the UN recommendation and declared that the British Mandate for Palestine would end on May 15, 1948.

Well, of course, the simplest answer is usually the most correct answer.

BLUF: No!

"Did you mean Palestine"

I'm not opposed to there being both. Two separate states for 2 separate peoples. Enough of this childishness.

There is already one state and Israel has made the two-state solution impossible.

(COMMENT)

The thought that "Israel has made the two-state solution impossible" is totally incorrect and a case of refusing to accept the reality of events.

• The first Arab-Israeli war, 1948-1949 •

On 14 May 1948, Britain relinquished its Mandate over Palestine and disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. Fierce hostilities immediately broke out between the Arab and Jewish communities. The next day, regular troops of the neighboring Arab States entered the territory to assist the Palestinian Arabs.

On that day Mid-Night 14/15 May 1948, there were two entities:

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

◈ The rejected allocation of the Arab State that was subsequently overrun by action of the Arab League.​

It was the Arab Higher Committee and the warlike act of aggression by Arab Force that disrupted the two-state solution and through a cascade of events, leads the region to the condition we have today.

Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The Declared State of Israel → through the Right of Self-determination → following the recommendation of A/RES/181(II).

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that had nothing to do with Resolution 181. There was no legitimacy.

(REFERENCE)

The 1948 war began following the announcement of the UN General Assembly’s endorsement of Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947, calling for the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. While Jewish authorities in Palestine accepted the resolution, the Arabs—including the Palestinians and the Arab League—
rejected it. In response to the passage of the UN resolution, Arabs began attacking Jews throughout Palestine, and the incidents expanded so that from December 1947 to April or May 1948 an intercommunal war raged between Jewish and Arab residents of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

Your insistence and hang-up on the existence/implementation or non-exsistance/non-implementation of A/RES/181 (II) make no difference to the discussion in that the violence that the Arab Community based its justification upon began before the first meeting of the UN Palestine Commission which began the implementation process.

◈ The use by the following the recommendations in Resolution 181 (II) • Israeli use of self-determination (15 May 1948) • and and the intercommunal war (December 1947 to April or May 1948) are all related, but in different ways.

◈ The Resolution 181 (II) contained the Step Preparatory to Independence. The Resolution itself did not grant independence, but representedone step closer on the path towards independence. Yet it created conflict.

◈ The Intercommunal War (December 1947 to April or May 1948) was triggered by the adoption of the Resolution.​

The Declaration of Independence was a product of following Resolution 181 (II). This was one-half of the equation to the 1948- Israeli War of Independence. The continuation of the conflict to past November 1988 and the recognition of Arab Palestinian Independence cannot be justifiably based in the Resolution, as it was one of the elements used to justify independence.

Most Respectfully,
R​

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