OWS Echoes The French Revolution.

[SAT]

You haven't noticed that I am eminently capable of speaking for myself?

And, that you may not be the best able to express my meaning?

Since you appear incable of understanding the post in which I explained to you that the American Revolution was,in fact, the paradigm in this venue, it hardly seems worthwhile explaining it to you again.

But, I would be willing to remind all that the French Revolution, characterized by the Great Fear, the storming of the Bastille, the food riots, the march on Versailles, the Day of the Daggers, the de-Christianization campaign, the September Massacres, the beheading of Louis XVI, the beheading of Marie Antoinette, the Reign of Terror, then the guillotining of one revolutionary after another, until Robespierre got the “national razor.” That is, not including various lynchings, assassinations, insurrections….this was the four-year period known as the French Revolution.

The excesses, and thousands upon thousands of deaths and mutilations take no back seat to the Russian revolution, or Mao’s mayhem, or Castro, or Pol Pot, etc., etc., all of which see as the same motivations: bowing of the individual to some central authority, on pain of death.

This, the French Revolution, was not a revolution that was likely to end, as the American Revolution did, with the motto “Annuit Coepis” (He [God] has favored our undertakings) on its national seal.

One salient point about your post: there does not exist in the United States of America, a permanent class known as the "poor."

This is due to the single concept of opportunity.

Here, this may prove helpful to you:

"Former President Bill Clinton’s advisor William Galston said, ‘you need only do three things in this country to avoid poverty. 1) Finish high school; 2) Marry before having a child; 3) Marry after the age of 20.’ Only 8 percent of those who follow these three rules will live ever in poverty at some point in their lives."
Justice Hines: Single-Parent Households Wreaking Havoc On Georgia Children, Contributing To Criminal Behavior | JJIE.org

God bless America.

Do you know what the word "conflating" means?

 

[SAT]

Never EVER tell the lie again that we are a christian nation

State religion is of no use to God, and of no use to people. A state religion serves only the state.

 

[Wicked Jester]

It might be........but I know a lot of conservative women who do not act the way she does, and I know a few that do. PC for example, I never agree with her but she is never vile and never makes comments on people's personal life. She might make a pot shot about someone's education, but that is about as far as it goes.

I mean they are conflicted within themselves. Cecille is actually shocked you have the nerve to call her classless. In her mind, she's both a loud mouthed bitch, but also, a classy lady.

Wow the same argument Moe and Curly use!

What better validation could there be than SAP claiming the opposite.

I bet you thought I’d run out of ways to humiliate you.

Let me know when you figure out a way to start.

Your claim of truth is ridiculous. The idea that a society cannot be both prosperous and have equality defies the reality of a number of successful societies in the modern world. You're searching for excuses to be self-centered...which is the fundamental drive behind much of the conservative movement.

National healthcare?......Your healthcare is YOUR responsibility, not mine or anybody elses.

Good schools?.......Do away with DOE, take the liberal idoctrination out of the equation, start holding teachers accountable for their abject failings, and put education fully back in the hands of the states, you'll see better education.

Top marginal tax rate....Get back to us when you actually write a check to the IRS.

Just sayin'!

Lack of access to health care makes a society fundamentally unequal. You're literally denying life to a number of our citizens.

Enough with the dramatics.

There is no ''lack of access to healthcare"....As long as you practice personal responsibility, provide for yourself what is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, there is no lack of access to healthcare.

 

[SAT]

Enough with the dramatics.

There is no ''lack of access to healthcare"....As long as you practice personal responsibility, provide for yourself what is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, there is no lack of access to healthcare.

Enough with the disinformation. Yes, there is a lack of access for many Americans.

We access health care through health insurance, and insurance is out of reach for many.

Yes, even with personal responsibility, you can find yourself without access to healthcare.

This is something you can realize both through research, and by talking to others.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It might be........but I know a lot of conservative women who do not act the way she does, and I know a few that do. PC for example, I never agree with her but she is never vile and never makes comments on people's personal life. She might make a pot shot about someone's education, but that is about as far as it goes.

I mean they are conflicted within themselves. Cecille is actually shocked you have the nerve to call her classless. In her mind, she's both a loud mouthed bitch, but also, a classy lady.

Wow the same argument Moe and Curly use!

What better validation could there be than SAP claiming the opposite.

I bet you thought I’d run out of ways to humiliate you.

Let me know when you figure out a way to start.

Your claim of truth is ridiculous. The idea that a society cannot be both prosperous and have equality defies the reality of a number of successful societies in the modern world. You're searching for excuses to be self-centered...which is the fundamental drive behind much of the conservative movement.

National healthcare?......Your healthcare is YOUR responsibility, not mine or anybody elses.

Good schools?.......Do away with DOE, take the liberal idoctrination out of the equation, start holding teachers accountable for their abject failings, and put education fully back in the hands of the states, you'll see better education.

Top marginal tax rate....Get back to us when you actually write a check to the IRS.

Just sayin'!

Lack of access to health care makes a society fundamentally unequal. You're literally denying life to a number of our citizens.

"Your claim of truth is ridiculous. The idea that a society cannot be both prosperous and have equality defies the reality of a number of successful societies in the modern world. "

1. Equality as defined by conservatives means before the law. And, as an abstract, was modified by the American idea of reward according to achievement, and a reverence for private property (see John Locke).
That existed from the start of this great nation. The modern, or liberal version
is equality of outcome.

The aberration is memorialized in FDR's "Second Bill of Rights speech." A grave error from which we may never recover. Under the new definition, an exact similarity of material wealth or income should be the goal of ‘social justice.’

a. The desire for equality of income or of wealth is, of course, but one aspect of a more general desire for equality. “The essence of the moral idea of socialism is that human equality is the supreme value in life.” Martin Malia, “A Fatal Logic,” The National Interest, Spring 1993, pp. 80, 87

2. The tried and true strategy for coping with the knowledge that others are a cut above, is to find a way to bring down the more fortunate. “And so the leveling process grinds insensately on. The Wall Street Journal recently reprinted a Kurt Vonnegut story, which the paper retitled "It Seemed Like Fiction"…Vonnegut saw the trend and envisioned the day when Americans would achieve perfect equality: persons of superior intelligence required to wear mental handicap radios that emit a sharp noise every twenty seconds to keep them from taking unfair advantage of their brains, persons of superior strength or grace burdened with weights, those of uncommon beauty forced to wear masks.” Hard Truths About the Culture War
A brilliant satire of 'equality'- or as they might say in the French Revolution, egalitarianism.

3. Of course the progressive income tax is the most obvious attempt at equalzation....take what the successful have earned and reward those who haven't.
Professor Wildavsky, former president of the American Political Science Association, wrote this in 1991:
“Rising egalitarianism will lower our standard of living, decrease our health, debase public discourse, lower the quality of public officials, weaken democracy, make people more suspicious of one another, and (if it be possible) worse. Worse is the constant denigration of American life- our polity, economy, and society- with no viable alternative to take its place.” Aaron Wildavsky, “The Rise of Radical Egalitarianism,” p. xxx

4. It seems simple enough to understand...although I may be overestimating our SAP, that taxing something reduces how much of it is produced. Success, the same.
Possibly you have heard the tale of the 'Golden Goose.'

Society, thus, can have equality as defined by the Left, or it can have prosperity. But not both.

I hardly expect you to understand this, SAP...but others will.

Therefore, you are doomed to walk behind the elephant in the procession of life.

 

[SAT]

1. Equality as defined by conservatives means before the law. And, as an abstract, was modified by the American idea of reward according to achievement, and a reverence for private property (see John Locke).
That existed from the start of this great nation. The modern, or liberal version
is equality of outcome.

An odd comment, considering you just disparaged the notion of equality and prosperity coexisting. Which is it that you're planning on giving up?

The aberration is memorialized in FDR's "Second Bill of Rights speech." A grave error from which we may never recover. Under the new definition, an exact similarity of material wealth or income should be the goal of ‘social justice.’

Now, now. You know that FDR never said that we should all have the same income. No straw men.

a. The desire for equality of income or of wealth is, of course, but one aspect of a more general desire for equality. “The essence of the moral idea of socialism is that human equality is the supreme value in life.” Martin Malia, “A Fatal Logic,” The National Interest, Spring 1993, pp. 80, 87

Are these your notes for class?

2. The tried and true strategy for coping with the knowledge that others are a cut above, is to find a way to bring down the more fortunate. “And so the leveling process grinds insensately on. The Wall Street Journal recently reprinted a Kurt Vonnegut story, which the paper retitled "It Seemed Like Fiction"…Vonnegut saw the trend and envisioned the day when Americans would achieve perfect equality: persons of superior intelligence required to wear mental handicap radios that emit a sharp noise every twenty seconds to keep them from taking unfair advantage of their brains, persons of superior strength or grace burdened with weights, those of uncommon beauty forced to wear masks.” Hard Truths About the Culture War
A brilliant satire of 'equality'- or as they might say in the French Revolution, egalitarianism.

That's a great story. Do you really think this is what liberals mean when they talk about equality? Be serious.

3. Of course the progressive income tax is the most obvious attempt at equalzation....take what the successful have earned and reward those who haven't.
Professor Wildavsky, former president of the American Political Science Association, wrote this in 1991:
“Rising egalitarianism will lower our standard of living, decrease our health, debase public discourse, lower the quality of public officials, weaken democracy, make people more suspicious of one another, and (if it be possible) worse. Worse is the constant denigration of American life- our polity, economy, and society- with no viable alternative to take its place.” Aaron Wildavsky, “The Rise of Radical Egalitarianism,” p. xxx

Surely you realize what a shallow analysis this is. For many, their success is choosing their parents well.

4. It seems simple enough to understand...although I may be overestimating our SAP, that taxing something reduces how much of it is produced. Success, the same.
Possibly you have heard the tale of the 'Golden Goose.'

Society, thus, can have equality as defined by the Left, or it can have prosperity. But not both.

I hardly expect you to understand this, SAP...but others will.

You are correct. I think this is a collection of thoughts, not a defense of your claim.

Therefore, you are doomed to walk behind the elephant in the procession of life.

Hey, we all hate the elephant. May he never rule again.

 

[Intense]

It might be........but I know a lot of conservative women who do not act the way she does, and I know a few that do. PC for example, I never agree with her but she is never vile and never makes comments on people's personal life. She might make a pot shot about someone's education, but that is about as far as it goes.

I mean they are conflicted within themselves. Cecille is actually shocked you have the nerve to call her classless. In her mind, she's both a loud mouthed bitch, but also, a classy lady.



Let me know when you figure out a way to start.

Your claim of truth is ridiculous. The idea that a society cannot be both prosperous and have equality defies the reality of a number of successful societies in the modern world. You're searching for excuses to be self-centered...which is the fundamental drive behind much of the conservative movement.

National healthcare?......Your healthcare is YOUR responsibility, not mine or anybody elses.

Good schools?.......Do away with DOE, take the liberal idoctrination out of the equation, start holding teachers accountable for their abject failings, and put education fully back in the hands of the states, you'll see better education.

Top marginal tax rate....Get back to us when you actually write a check to the IRS.

Just sayin'!

Lack of access to health care makes a society fundamentally unequal. You're literally denying life to a number of our citizens.

"Your claim of truth is ridiculous. The idea that a society cannot be both prosperous and have equality defies the reality of a number of successful societies in the modern world. "

1. Equality as defined by conservatives means before the law. And, as an abstract, was modified by the American idea of reward according to achievement, and a reverence for private property (see John Locke).
That existed from the start of this great nation. The modern, or liberal version
is equality of outcome.

The aberration is memorialized in FDR's "Second Bill of Rights speech." A grave error from which we may never recover. Under the new definition, an exact similarity of material wealth or income should be the goal of ‘social justice.’

a. The desire for equality of income or of wealth is, of course, but one aspect of a more general desire for equality. “The essence of the moral idea of socialism is that human equality is the supreme value in life.” Martin Malia, “A Fatal Logic,” The National Interest, Spring 1993, pp. 80, 87

2. The tried and true strategy for coping with the knowledge that others are a cut above, is to find a way to bring down the more fortunate. “And so the leveling process grinds insensately on. The Wall Street Journal recently reprinted a Kurt Vonnegut story, which the paper retitled "It Seemed Like Fiction"…Vonnegut saw the trend and envisioned the day when Americans would achieve perfect equality: persons of superior intelligence required to wear mental handicap radios that emit a sharp noise every twenty seconds to keep them from taking unfair advantage of their brains, persons of superior strength or grace burdened with weights, those of uncommon beauty forced to wear masks.” Hard Truths About the Culture War
A brilliant satire of 'equality'- or as they might say in the French Revolution, egalitarianism.

3. Of course the progressive income tax is the most obvious attempt at equalzation....take what the successful have earned and reward those who haven't.
Professor Wildavsky, former president of the American Political Science Association, wrote this in 1991:
“Rising egalitarianism will lower our standard of living, decrease our health, debase public discourse, lower the quality of public officials, weaken democracy, make people more suspicious of one another, and (if it be possible) worse. Worse is the constant denigration of American life- our polity, economy, and society- with no viable alternative to take its place.” Aaron Wildavsky, “The Rise of Radical Egalitarianism,” p. xxx

4. It seems simple enough to understand...although I may be overestimating our SAP, that taxing something reduces how much of it is produced. Success, the same.
Possibly you have heard the tale of the 'Golden Goose.'

Society, thus, can have equality as defined by the Left, or it can have prosperity. But not both.

I hardly expect you to understand this, SAP...but others will.

Therefore, you are doomed to walk behind the elephant in the procession of life.

All SAT really want's is access to your Pin Numbers and Accounts.

We are a competitive society. Equality is not based on outcome, the concept is absurd.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Enough with the dramatics.

There is no ''lack of access to healthcare"....As long as you practice personal responsibility, provide for yourself what is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, there is no lack of access to healthcare.

Enough with the disinformation. Yes, there is a lack of access for many Americans.

We access health care through health insurance, and insurance is out of reach for many.

Yes, even with personal responsibility, you can find yourself without access to healthcare.

This is something you can realize both through research, and by talking to others.

Nobody is turned away for lack of benefits.......Unless you went to the hospital where Michelle Obama was affiliated, after she helped devise her infamous patient dumping scheme.

 

[SAT]

All SAT really want's is access to your Pin Numbers and Accounts.

Yes, yes. Anyone who believes in national health care really just wants your money.

We are a competitive society. Equality is not based on outcome, the concept is absurd.

Which is why no one proposed equality of outcomes.

 

[SAT]

Nobody is turned away for lack of benefits.......Unless you went to the hospital where Michelle Obama was affiliated, after she helped devise her infamous patient dumping scheme.

The ER is not health care. Try again.

 

[Intense]

All SAT really want's is access to your Pin Numbers and Accounts.

Yes, yes. Anyone who believes in national health care really just wants your money.

We are a competitive society. Equality is not based on outcome, the concept is absurd.

Which is why no one proposed equality of outcomes.

Which is why no one proposed equality of outcomes.

No, just Redistribution and Frivolous Spending.

Yes, yes. Anyone who believes in national health care really just wants your money.

Yep, remember whatever you do, Never question that $500 Band-aid, or that $1000 Ambulance ride. Just keep demanding Equal Access. Funny how the more Government gets involved, the more standard procedures are denied. Why not question why the cost of service is so high in the first place?

 

[taichiliberal]

1. The OWS movement reflects several aspects of the French Revolution.
Had they an actual education, we would have seen cardboard signs with
"Liberté, égalité, fraternité."

a. égalité..equality...is the demand that the so-called "1%" be brought down to their level.

2. The OWS folks certainly count as a mob.

a. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
The administration had hoped to harnass this mob as an ally.

3. In her book, "Demonic," Coulter illustrates how rumors and catch-phrases innervate a mob, and this is clear in that OWS and their supporters believe nonsense such as workers incomes stagnating, or falling, and only some bête noire called the "1%" is thriving, at their expense.

4. The man most identified with the French Revolution is Rousseau, who famously saw man sans government as 'the noble savage,' and some 'general will,' that the group expressed, as the right path. How did that work out in the OWS communes...? An anemic reflection of the French Revolution...without guillotines. Up to now.

a. In France, there was the development of an apparatus of ideological enforcement for ‘reason.’ But rather than necessitate liberty, Edmund Burke was prescient enough to predict that ‘enlightened despotism’ would be embodied in the general will, a formula for oppression as in ‘tyranny of popular opinion’ or even ‘a dictatorship of the proletariat.’

b. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

c. Robespierre used Rousseau’s call for a “reign of virtue,’ proclaiming the Republic of Virtue, his euphemism for The Terror. In ‘The Social Contract’ Rousseau advocated death for anyone who did not uphold the common values of the community: the totalitarian view of reshaping of humanity, echoed in communism, Nazism, progressivism. Robespierre: “the necessity of bringing about a complete regeneration and, if I may express myself so, of creating a new people.” Himmefarb, Ibid.

d. In this particular idea of the Enlightenment, the need to change human nature, and to eliminate customs and traditions, to remake established institutions, to do away with all inequalities in order to bring man closer to the state, which was the expression of the general will. Talmon, “Origins of Totalitarian Democracy,” p. 3-7

Bottom line: The OW protesters point to the FACT that you have Wall St. folk NOT being punished for the crimes they committed that put our country into an economic dire straits while STILL profitting via the bail out with the tax dollars of the people who are NOT getting jobs because the corporations that are entwined to Wall St. will not hire domestically because it's MORE profitable to outsource jobs and hide profits in off shore banks.....then they bitch about paying 1 to 3% more in taxes despite logging record profits in the last ten years. In New York City, there is no "transaction tax" on the mega profits made on Wall St.....there use to be, and it was serious revenue for the State...and all the millionaires and near-millionaires dancing through the upper West Side were none worst for wear. Now there's no transaction tax, and New York is in serious economic dire straits regarding infrastructure, jobs, etc..

Nothing in what I've stated here is remotely similar to all the supposition and conjecture posted by Political Chic....and EVERYTHING I've stated can be documented, verified and validated. Can Political Chic say the same?

 

[SAT]

No, just Redistribution and Frivolous Spending.

Health care is not frivolous.

Yep, remember whatever you do, Never question that $500 Band-aid, or that $1000 Ambulance ride. Just keep demanding Equal Access.

Huh?

Funny how the more Government gets involved, the more standard procedures are denied. Why not question why the cost of service is so high in the first place?

Which is what you want, right? You don't like the idea of lazy 65 year olds getting the best of care, do you?

Tell us, Mr. Wizard. Why is it so high?

 

[Intense]

Nobody is turned away for lack of benefits.......Unless you went to the hospital where Michelle Obama was affiliated, after she helped devise her infamous patient dumping scheme.

The ER is not health care. Try again.

That depends now doesn't it. You want to argue that while you bleed out? I don't think so. You seem to think that actions have no consequences I guess. Nobody should have to pay anything at all for Health Care right? How about Cable? How about Electric? How about Gas? Hey, I want an Ocean View. When my home gets hit with flooding you should bail me out too. Hypodermics and condoms should be free, right. And I want a bright red Fire-Truck for Christmas, a real one.

 

[SAT]

Nobody is turned away for lack of benefits.......Unless you went to the hospital where Michelle Obama was affiliated, after she helped devise her infamous patient dumping scheme.

The ER is not health care. Try again.

That depends now doesn't it. You want to argue that while you bleed out? I don't think so. You seem to think that actions have no consequences I guess. Nobody should have to pay anything at all for Health Care right? How about Cable? How about Electric? How about Gas? Hey, I want an Ocean View. When my home gets hit with flooding you should bail me out too. Hypodermics and condoms should be free, right. And I want a bright red Fire-Truck for Christmas, a real one.

Your comment is senseless. My point is that health care is more than the ER. Not that you don't need the ER.

Health care isn't like cable. You know that.

 

[Intense]

No, just Redistribution and Frivolous Spending.

Health care is not frivolous.

Yep, remember whatever you do, Never question that $500 Band-aid, or that $1000 Ambulance ride. Just keep demanding Equal Access.

Huh?

Funny how the more Government gets involved, the more standard procedures are denied. Why not question why the cost of service is so high in the first place?

Which is what you want, right? You don't like the idea of lazy 65 year olds getting the best of care, do you?

Tell us, Mr. Wizard. Why is it so high?

Health care is not frivolous.

That is a matter of perspective, in truth. There are many Procedures that are either Cover Your Ass, and Unnecessary and there are outright Scams and Fraud. There are Procedures that are life saving yet unauthorized because of procedure and Bureaucracy. There are Life Saving Procedures that do not get approved. Don't worry though, your Viagra is covered.

Huh?

What... Are you lost in the Subway again? I told you to transfer at Times Square. Get with it, and clean up that drool. It's comely, Up Town.

Which is what you want, right? You don't like the idea of lazy 65 year olds getting the best of care, do you?

Tell us, Mr. Wizard. Why is it so high?

I have no issue with you getting what you pay for.

 

[Intense]

The ER is not health care. Try again.

That depends now doesn't it. You want to argue that while you bleed out? I don't think so. You seem to think that actions have no consequences I guess. Nobody should have to pay anything at all for Health Care right? How about Cable? How about Electric? How about Gas? Hey, I want an Ocean View. When my home gets hit with flooding you should bail me out too. Hypodermics and condoms should be free, right. And I want a bright red Fire-Truck for Christmas, a real one.

Your comment is senseless. My point is that health care is more than the ER. Not that you don't need the ER.

Health care isn't like cable. You know that.

I know what Health Care is. Do you understand Value for Value?

Health care isn't like cable. You know that.

So you agree the Government should not be bankrolling Cell Phones, Air-conditioners, Utilities, all services which artificially increase the cost to the rest of us and add undue burden. Glad you are starting to catch on.

 

[SAT]

No, just Redistribution and Frivolous Spending.

Health care is not frivolous.



Huh?



Which is what you want, right? You don't like the idea of lazy 65 year olds getting the best of care, do you?

Tell us, Mr. Wizard. Why is it so high?

That is a matter of perspective, in truth. There are many Procedures that are either Cover Your Ass, and Unnecessary and there are outright Scams and Fraud. There are Procedures that are life saving yet unauthorized because of procedure and Bureaucracy. There are Life Saving Procedures that do not get approved. Don't worry though, your Viagra is covered.

Huh?

What... Are you lost in the Subway again? I told you to transfer at Times Square. Get with it, and clean up that drool. It's comely, Up Town.

Which is what you want, right? You don't like the idea of lazy 65 year olds getting the best of care, do you?

Tell us, Mr. Wizard. Why is it so high?

I have no issue with you getting what you pay for.

The "Huh" was my way of letting you know you were rambling. Since you don't like that, I'll tell you straight out. You're rambling.

 

[SAT]

That depends now doesn't it. You want to argue that while you bleed out? I don't think so. You seem to think that actions have no consequences I guess. Nobody should have to pay anything at all for Health Care right? How about Cable? How about Electric? How about Gas? Hey, I want an Ocean View. When my home gets hit with flooding you should bail me out too. Hypodermics and condoms should be free, right. And I want a bright red Fire-Truck for Christmas, a real one.

Your comment is senseless. My point is that health care is more than the ER. Not that you don't need the ER.

Health care isn't like cable. You know that.

I know what Health Care is. Do you understand Value for Value?

Health care isn't like cable. You know that.

So you agree the Government should not be bankrolling Cell Phones, Air-conditioners, Utilities, all services which artificially increase the cost to the rest of us and add undue burden. Glad you are starting to catch on.

And now you're just lobbing talking points.

 

[Intense]

1. The OWS movement reflects several aspects of the French Revolution.
Had they an actual education, we would have seen cardboard signs with
"Liberté, égalité, fraternité."

a. égalité..equality...is the demand that the so-called "1%" be brought down to their level.

2. The OWS folks certainly count as a mob.

a. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
The administration had hoped to harnass this mob as an ally.

3. In her book, "Demonic," Coulter illustrates how rumors and catch-phrases innervate a mob, and this is clear in that OWS and their supporters believe nonsense such as workers incomes stagnating, or falling, and only some bête noire called the "1%" is thriving, at their expense.

4. The man most identified with the French Revolution is Rousseau, who famously saw man sans government as 'the noble savage,' and some 'general will,' that the group expressed, as the right path. How did that work out in the OWS communes...? An anemic reflection of the French Revolution...without guillotines. Up to now.

a. In France, there was the development of an apparatus of ideological enforcement for ‘reason.’ But rather than necessitate liberty, Edmund Burke was prescient enough to predict that ‘enlightened despotism’ would be embodied in the general will, a formula for oppression as in ‘tyranny of popular opinion’ or even ‘a dictatorship of the proletariat.’

b. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

c. Robespierre used Rousseau’s call for a “reign of virtue,’ proclaiming the Republic of Virtue, his euphemism for The Terror. In ‘The Social Contract’ Rousseau advocated death for anyone who did not uphold the common values of the community: the totalitarian view of reshaping of humanity, echoed in communism, Nazism, progressivism. Robespierre: “the necessity of bringing about a complete regeneration and, if I may express myself so, of creating a new people.” Himmefarb, Ibid.

d. In this particular idea of the Enlightenment, the need to change human nature, and to eliminate customs and traditions, to remake established institutions, to do away with all inequalities in order to bring man closer to the state, which was the expression of the general will. Talmon, “Origins of Totalitarian Democracy,” p. 3-7

Bottom line: The OW protesters point to the FACT that you have Wall St. folk NOT being punished for the crimes they committed that put our country into an economic dire straits while STILL profitting via the bail out with the tax dollars of the people who are NOT getting jobs because the corporations that are entwined to Wall St. will not hire domestically because it's MORE profitable to outsource jobs and hide profits in off shore banks.....then they bitch about paying 1 to 3% more in taxes despite logging record profits in the last ten years. In New York City, there is no "transaction tax" on the mega profits made on Wall St.....there use to be, and it was serious revenue fo

r the State...and all the millionaires and near-millionaires dancing through the upper West Side were none worst for wear. Now there's no transaction tax, and New York is in serious economic dire straits regarding infrastructure, jobs, etc..

Nothing in what I've stated here is remotely similar to all the supposition and conjecture posted by Political Chic....and EVERYTHING I've stated can be documented, verified and validated. Can Political Chic say the same?

Bottom line: The OW protesters point to the FACT that you have Wall St. folk NOT being punished for the crimes they committed that put our country into an economic dire straits while STILL profitting via the bail out with the tax dollars of the people who are NOT getting jobs because the corporations that are entwined to Wall St. will not hire domestically because it's MORE profitable to outsource jobs and hide profits in off shore banks.....then they bitch about paying 1 to 3% more in taxes despite logging record profits in the last ten years.

I think the perpetrators should be prosecuted too, and the Government Bureaucrats that ran cover for them too. I bet if that happened there would be allot of sad Holiday tables around DC and the State Capitals as well. A full audit of the Federal, Reserve would send allot of them out of US jurisdiction as well I bet. We are in a losing battle with China if you haven't noticed. We cannot compete with Prison, Slave, Child Labor. We can neither protect our markets. I don't see that as greed. It's survival.

In New York City, there is no "transaction tax" on the mega profits made on Wall St.....there use to be, and it was serious revenue fo

r the State...and all the millionaires and near-millionaires dancing through the upper West Side were none worst for wear. Now there's no transaction tax, and New York is in serious economic dire straits regarding infrastructure, jobs, etc..

I can't believe you are attacking the core of DNC influence and fund raising. Do you really want to throw the Progressive Upper West Side under the bus? Not that I disapprove mind you, I hate them, I am just shocked that you would fire like that on your own troops. ... On second thought, go for it.

In truth, Wall Street has traditionally paid a good part of State and City Tax in the past. That is changing now, and it is hurting us big time.