OWS Echoes The French Revolution.

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    1. The OWS movement reflects several aspects of the French Revolution.
    Had they an actual education, we would have seen cardboard signs with
    "Liberté, égalité, fraternité."

    a. égalité..equality...is the demand that the so-called "1%" be brought down to their level.

    2. The OWS folks certainly count as a mob.

    a. Gustave Le Bon, in his groundbreaking 1896 book, “The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind,” was the first to identify the phenomenon of mass psychology. Both Hitler and Mussolini used his book to understand how to incite a mob.
    The administration had hoped to harnass this mob as an ally.

    3. In her book, "Demonic," Coulter illustrates how rumors and catch-phrases innervate a mob, and this is clear in that OWS and their supporters believe nonsense such as workers incomes stagnating, or falling, and only some bête noire called the "1%" is thriving, at their expense.

    4. The man most identified with the French Revolution is Rousseau, who famously saw man sans government as 'the noble savage,' and some 'general will,' that the group expressed, as the right path. How did that work out in the OWS communes...? An anemic reflection of the French Revolution...without guillotines. Up to now.

    a. In France, there was the development of an apparatus of ideological enforcement for ‘reason.’ But rather than necessitate liberty, Edmund Burke was prescient enough to predict that ‘enlightened despotism’ would be embodied in the general will, a formula for oppression as in ‘tyranny of popular opinion’ or even ‘a dictatorship of the proletariat.’

    b. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

    c. Robespierre used Rousseau’s call for a “reign of virtue,’ proclaiming the Republic of Virtue, his euphemism for The Terror. In ‘The Social Contract’ Rousseau advocated death for anyone who did not uphold the common values of the community: the totalitarian view of reshaping of humanity, echoed in communism, Nazism, progressivism. Robespierre: “the necessity of bringing about a complete regeneration and, if I may express myself so, of creating a new people.” Himmefarb, Ibid.

    d. In this particular idea of the Enlightenment, the need to change human nature, and to eliminate customs and traditions, to remake established institutions, to do away with all inequalities in order to bring man closer to the state, which was the expression of the general will. Talmon, “Origins of Totalitarian Democracy,” p. 3-7
     
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    If it does, it's only because today's America resembles the Ancien Régime.
     
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    Then move. No one is forcing you to stay.
     
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    I may in fact do that, as a lot of other Americans are doing. However, there is something to be said for at least trying to fix a problem before abandoning one's country. There is such a thing as patriotism.
     
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    And how did that French revolution work out for the fat cats?
     
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    I wondered if she knew where her analogy was leading.

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    Fat cats?

    600,000 were slaughtered in the abattoir.


    And it didn't end in France...

    ...you have no idea, no understanding of the spin-offs of the French Revolution: think Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Che, and millions upon millions slaughtered.

    1. From "Demonic:" The killings went on, without reason. Saint-Just demanded that people be guillotined not just for being traitors, but for being “indifferent as well.” And, more than passing interesting, this roving indictment was adopted by key Obama advisors William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn in the SDS anti-war pamphlet called “The Opposite of Moral is Indifferent.” William Ayers, “Fugitive Days,” p. 130.

    2. "Rousseau presages the rise of the Romantic movement in art and caused a sensation among the aristocrats of Bourbon France. Later on Napoleon is supposed to have claimed, "If there had been no Rousseau, there would have been no Revolution, and without the Revolution, I should have been impossible." Stalin and Hitler could say the same in recognizing their debt to the concept of "the Sovereign" of Rousseau and its mystical identification with the people. 200 years later we have only millions and millions of innocents murdered in the "name of the people," etc. ad nauseam. "
    French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror


    You are exactly the kind of individual the Left requires.

    Here's an idea: pick up a book now and then.
     
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    Take your own advice! You have no conception of the events you're posting about. You don't pay the slightest attention to the condition of the poor in France at the time of the revolution, nor do you have any understanding of the totalitarian regimes you mention.
     
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