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The main one is, we are allied with Israel. IslamoNazis highly object to Israel as a nation-state. We stand in the way of them eradicating it. This is actually a continuance of WW2, after which the state of Israel was created.Because there are actual bread and butter issues that muslims are mad at the United States about.
there were NO US troops in Iraq at the time of 9/11No, not all muslims are potential enemies, there are those who want nothing to do with the extremists. Think about why they hate us. Because we're free? Maybe some of the more extreme terrorists, but how do they get so many to join their cause? Because there are actual bread and butter issues that muslims are mad at the United States about. Military presence in their holy lands (Iraq and Saudi Arabia), murderous sanctions, and bombings and attacks that end up killing innocent civilians.
nor were there any at the time of the wtc bombing in 93
and we were invited into Saudi
The main one is, we are allied with Israel. IslamoNazis highly object to Israel as a nation-state. We stand in the way of them eradicating it. This is actually a continuance of WW2, after which the state of Israel was created.Because there are actual bread and butter issues that muslims are mad at the United States about.
They "hate" us mainly due to their desire to kill the Jews. I happen to LIKE being hated for standing in the way of genocide, don't you?
That's been tried over and over. The hand is bitten each and every time. And, why would you want to be friends with genocidal maniacs?The main one is, we are allied with Israel. IslamoNazis highly object to Israel as a nation-state. We stand in the way of them eradicating it. This is actually a continuance of WW2, after which the state of Israel was created.Because there are actual bread and butter issues that muslims are mad at the United States about.
They "hate" us mainly due to their desire to kill the Jews. I happen to LIKE being hated for standing in the way of genocide, don't you?
You're absolutely right. They don't like Israel and they don't like our love affair with Israel. Now we certainly can't do anything about that situation other than offer both Israel and Muslims (Be they Palestinian or otherwise) an equal hand of friendship.
the fact that the sanctions were there is Saddamthere were NO US troops in Iraq at the time of 9/11No, not all muslims are potential enemies, there are those who want nothing to do with the extremists. Think about why they hate us. Because we're free? Maybe some of the more extreme terrorists, but how do they get so many to join their cause? Because there are actual bread and butter issues that muslims are mad at the United States about. Military presence in their holy lands (Iraq and Saudi Arabia), murderous sanctions, and bombings and attacks that end up killing innocent civilians.
nor were there any at the time of the wtc bombing in 93
and we were invited into Saudi
Yet how many times had we bombed Iraq? How many innocent Iraqi's died as a result of our sanctions?
"Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."
"We Think the Price Is Worth It"
How many Muslims do you think heard that and were outraged by it?
The bombing in 93 occurred after the Gulf War. Blowback?
Whether we were invited or not, it is holy land and an affront to many Muslims that our military is there.
If we just make nice, kiss their asses, they won't want to kill us or convert us. Right? They won't come up with another bullshit pretext and attack us anyway, right? When they attack our friends and take over the rest of the world, they'll leave us alone. Right? It's all our fault for being the great devil who seeks to enable self-determination, freedom, and economic prosperity throughout the world.My suggestion is to adopt a foreign policy of non-interventionism, and to bring all our troops from around the world home.
Liberals truly believe in their heart of hearts that if we just become insular, withdraw from the world and leave our allies hung out to dry, everything will be Okay.
To you Kevin, the concept of good and evil is nothing more than a massive gray area. But the truth is, there is essential good and essential evil, with a small gray area in between. IslamoNazis are essentially evil.
This infantile view you all have is naive and stupid, borne of ignorance and lack of education on the topic.
Also, by the way all: The Obama Administration said today that the term "Overseas Contingency Operation" isn't official, they have blamed it on "a mid-level civil service worker" authoring and distributing the emailed memo.
However, that doesn't explain why the administration has used the "Global Contingency Operation" phrase for a month prior to the e-mail being sent.
Craig W. Duehring, assistant secretary of the Air Force for manpower, also used the term last week.
"Key battlefield monetary incentives has allowed the Air Force to meet the demands of overseas contingency operations even as requirements continue to grow," he said in congressional testimony.
The emailed memo from the "mid-level civil service worker" was sent early this week.
So, Obama's lying again. Blaming it on an unnamed worker whom he cannot fire due to "civil service."
Gotta love it.
That's been tried over and over. The hand is bitten each and every time. And, why would you want to be friends with genocidal maniacs?The main one is, we are allied with Israel. IslamoNazis highly object to Israel as a nation-state. We stand in the way of them eradicating it. This is actually a continuance of WW2, after which the state of Israel was created.
They "hate" us mainly due to their desire to kill the Jews. I happen to LIKE being hated for standing in the way of genocide, don't you?
You're absolutely right. They don't like Israel and they don't like our love affair with Israel. Now we certainly can't do anything about that situation other than offer both Israel and Muslims (Be they Palestinian or otherwise) an equal hand of friendship.
They want to ERADICATE Jews. We have a problem with that. Therefore they have a problem with us. All the other crap they and their apologists spew is pretext. It all boils down to that, so -- decide who's evil. The ones wanting to commit genocide, or the ones stopping them?
the fact that the sanctions were there is Saddamthere were NO US troops in Iraq at the time of 9/11
nor were there any at the time of the wtc bombing in 93
and we were invited into Saudi
Yet how many times had we bombed Iraq? How many innocent Iraqi's died as a result of our sanctions?
"Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."
"We Think the Price Is Worth It"
How many Muslims do you think heard that and were outraged by it?
The bombing in 93 occurred after the Gulf War. Blowback?
Whether we were invited or not, it is holy land and an affront to many Muslims that our military is there.
anything that was a result of the sanctions was Saddams fault
unless you blame the police for people criminals kill before the police capture them
of course HE wasntthe fact that the sanctions were there is SaddamYet how many times had we bombed Iraq? How many innocent Iraqi's died as a result of our sanctions?
"Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."
"We Think the Price Is Worth It"
How many Muslims do you think heard that and were outraged by it?
The bombing in 93 occurred after the Gulf War. Blowback?
Whether we were invited or not, it is holy land and an affront to many Muslims that our military is there.
anything that was a result of the sanctions was Saddams fault
unless you blame the police for people criminals kill before the police capture them
Do you think Saddam was anywhere near as affected by those sanctions as the Iraqi civilians were?
"I doubt it seriously." - Mike Tyson
of course HE wasntthe fact that the sanctions were there is Saddam
anything that was a result of the sanctions was Saddams fault
unless you blame the police for people criminals kill before the police capture them
Do you think Saddam was anywhere near as affected by those sanctions as the Iraqi civilians were?
"I doubt it seriously." - Mike Tyson
what you are ignoring is, those people would have been punished without the sanctionsof course HE wasntDo you think Saddam was anywhere near as affected by those sanctions as the Iraqi civilians were?
"I doubt it seriously." - Mike Tyson
Then maybe we shouldn't have punished innocent civilians because of our dislike of their government.
of course HE wasntthe fact that the sanctions were there is Saddam
anything that was a result of the sanctions was Saddams fault
unless you blame the police for people criminals kill before the police capture them
Do you think Saddam was anywhere near as affected by those sanctions as the Iraqi civilians were?
"I doubt it seriously." - Mike Tyson
what you are ignoring is, those people would have been punished without the sanctionsof course HE wasnt
Then maybe we shouldn't have punished innocent civilians because of our dislike of their government.
Saddam was a bastard in the first order
the sanctions were to keep Saddam from restarting his weapons programswhat you are ignoring is, those people would have been punished without the sanctionsThen maybe we shouldn't have punished innocent civilians because of our dislike of their government.
Saddam was a bastard in the first order
Yes, he was. That doesn't make it right for us to put sanctions on the Iraqi civilians, regardless of what Saddam might have done to them on his own.
of course HE wasntDo you think Saddam was anywhere near as affected by those sanctions as the Iraqi civilians were?
"I doubt it seriously." - Mike Tyson
No, and neither was his government. The only ones hurt by the sanctions were the civilian population, most of which was just regular law abiding citizens trying to live their life.
How do you expect economic sanctions to hurt the government of the country you're imposing them on? Those people are insulated from such a thing. Imagine sanctions against the US. You think Obama's going to be adjusting his personal budget, cutting back on the blackberry anytime minutes? Going homeless and having to feed his kids shit out of dumpsters? How about someone like Bobby Jindal, just to make it bipartisan. You think Jindal would be hurt by sanctions?
The only way the government would be persuaded by sanctions is if they actually CARED about their citizens. And neither the US government, nor the Iraqi government under Saddam, seem or seemed to give much of a shit about their peons.
So if it manages to maybe slow down or actually take down a network or two, tens of thousands of negatively impacted civilians is a fair price to pay?
Once those civilians are dead, they're dead. But those terror networks can always recruit more terrorists. When does the widespread loss of innocent life finally become too high a price to pay?
the sanctions were to keep Saddam from restarting his weapons programswhat you are ignoring is, those people would have been punished without the sanctions
Saddam was a bastard in the first order
Yes, he was. That doesn't make it right for us to put sanctions on the Iraqi civilians, regardless of what Saddam might have done to them on his own.
no, we are notthe sanctions were to keep Saddam from restarting his weapons programsYes, he was. That doesn't make it right for us to put sanctions on the Iraqi civilians, regardless of what Saddam might have done to them on his own.
It doesn't matter how good our intentions are, we're still responsible for those deaths and their families, friends, and fellow countrymen are going to be angry at us for it. Some will be willing to join terrorist organizations for it. That's why it's called blowback, and it's why we should adopt a foreign policy of non-interventionism.
no, we are notthe sanctions were to keep Saddam from restarting his weapons programs
It doesn't matter how good our intentions are, we're still responsible for those deaths and their families, friends, and fellow countrymen are going to be angry at us for it. Some will be willing to join terrorist organizations for it. That's why it's called blowback, and it's why we should adopt a foreign policy of non-interventionism.
those are still the fault of Saddam
damn
you would blame the police for hostages killed
WRONGno, we are notIt doesn't matter how good our intentions are, we're still responsible for those deaths and their families, friends, and fellow countrymen are going to be angry at us for it. Some will be willing to join terrorist organizations for it. That's why it's called blowback, and it's why we should adopt a foreign policy of non-interventionism.
those are still the fault of Saddam
damn
you would blame the police for hostages killed
If it's our sanctions that lead to their death then we are responsible for their deaths.
I'd only blame the police if they shot and killed the hostages so that they wouldn't instead be killed by the kidnappers.
