"Outfoxed"-unfairly done

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    I was just watching something on Fox news about the "Outfoxed" movie saying Fox is to far to the right. When the maker of the movie had a press conference,they wouldn't answer half of Fox's questions. The film is so unfairly edited,you would have to be an idiot not to tell. They purposely cut things out and had reporters saying things that sounded biased. Also,from what it sounded like,our good friends at MoveOn. had something to do with the movie. Insane!!!! Here's a little info,but I'm trying to find a better link

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125762,00.html
     
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    This might be of interest:

    http://www.jimgilliam.com/2004/07/outfoxed_and_fair_use_in_tomorrows_nyt_magazine.php
     
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    This guy is nuts!!! From what I saw on Fox,they had a reporter at the press conference and the maker of the movie wouldn't answer his questions. I believe it was Eric Shawn(sp?). I don't see a problem with the higher ups at Fox saying what to report on more or whatever. There is no doubt in my mind that goes on in every network. They have a way they want to be thought of and viewed. This is nothing more than a feddding frenzy on Fox for being on top and not putting G.W. through the daily whiplashing that goes on at CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN,and MSNBC(if anyone is watching other than when Joe S. is on). Then on toop of the ridiculous very edited clips in this movie,Move On is involved?!!! And they are going to act like THEIR movie isn't biased?!!! I can't believe the hipocracy!!!


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    I love it. Let the media hang themselves. This is the LMM simply telling the world, "yes we are biased and we're afraid of Fox's success by not being Far left. In fact it scares us that they are reporting news and not putting any spin on it to mold the ignorant minds of the people who don't know how to think for themselves. Imagine allowing people to decide for themselves what they think. Its appalling."

    Continue to hang yourselves guys by allowing MoveOn and MM to do your dirty work and having you praise them as speaking for All of America.

    Bush will win in a landslide.
     
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    There's absolutely nothing wrong with being biased and reporting from a certain point of view. However, if you are going to do that, don't use the slogan: "Fair and Balanced". I think it's clear to everyone on both sides of the aisle that FOX is pro-right.
     
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    I disagree with your entire statement.

    First, it is ABSOLUTELY wrong to be biased in "reporting". It is dishonest, and misleading. If a network is "reporting" the news, it should do just that - report the facts, ALL of the facts and do so without gratuitous opinion comments by reporters. If a network, or newspaper wants to express an opinion, that is called an "editorial". But these days, the leftist media has blurred the line between the two.

    Your accusation of FOX being pro-right is totally unsupported. I believe that you are judging FOX based on the standard of CNN, NBC, CBS ABC and PBS. The slanted activities of these organizations makes anyone who simply reports the unbiased truth appear to be a right-winger.
     
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    Are you always this stupid, or is today a special occasion?
    The ideal in reporting is to be unbiased, boring, just the facts ma'am.
    Fox does a credible job in reporting the good, the bad, and the ugly. Problem is that most outlets only report the bad and the ugly, with a slant.

    Did you understand that, or do I need to type a little slower?
     
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    Yes I understand what the ideal in Journalism dictates. However, one does not have to adhere to those ideals when reporting. There is a difference between reporting and journalism. Many organizations, such as the magazines "The National Review" and "The American Prospect" which choose to do their reporting from the right and the left, respectively. As long as this is acknowledged, there is nothing wrong with it.

    Neil Cavuto and Bill O'Reilly have both stated they are biased when talking about the war in Iraq. In summary they both say they want our side to win. Again, nothing wrong with that except the slogan of FOXNews is "Fair and Balanced". Murdoch, the owner of FOXNews is an admitted champion of Reagan and the Republicans. Nothing wrong with that either except I understand how the world works and the owner of a company has enormous influence on that company. Murdoch is not an idealist when it comes to journalism, he is an idealist when it comes to capitalism. And patriotism definitely sells in this country.

    You are right there is an ideal in Journalism but you can choose not to adhere to it and when you do so you need to clarify for your audience.

    Also, please refrain from personal attacks. They occur too often on these boards and are completely unnecessary and childish.
     
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    A news station like Fox carries 'news' which should and is 'fair and balanced.' On that station they may designate time for 'editorial programs' such as O'Reilly, Cavuto, or Hannity and Colmes. Anyone who's read a news paper understands the difference. Problem with the other news channels, there is little difference in the standards between the news and editorials. Same thing is happening in major newspapers, led by NYT. Check circulation numbers, ratings to see it the public is really as lame as assumed by the elites.
     
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    Just ask yourself this-----How many times do you see another "news" program allow a dissenting viewpoint?
     

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