O'Reilly's War on Xmas = Owned

[Jimmyeatworld]

ROFL That article is already bullshit.

Easier than arguing your point, I suppose. Come on, Max. Dig around. I'm sure you can find something from the late 80s if you try.

 

[Jimmyeatworld]

LOL Wishful thinking won't make it true.
The title of the linked web page still says "Holiday" on it instead of Christmas.

OOPS!

You go ahead and get started on that lawsuit though.

And that has already been touched on. Mother's Day is considered a holiday. Valentine's Day is considered a holiday. There are holidays all throughout the year, not just at the end of it.

OOPS!

 

[Max Power]

you just don't want to see the descrimination against christianity...that's cool...i am sure you will be as neutral as sweden in WWII when basic fundemental building blocks of the US are further erroded

odd that you should say the beer thing my soon was sent home for wearing a micro brew hawaiian shirt yet the sikh kid got to wear his knife and the teacher that wore a cross was fired.....

That's the school's prerogative.

btw.........puting in god we trust on our money is endorsement of religion.....having a federal holiday of christmas is endorsement of religion.....having your oath in court say so help me god is endorsement of religion....having an easter egg hunt on the east lawn is endorsement of religion....shall i go on?

You're right, and technically, they should all be eliminated.
Do I care? No.

 

[Powerman]

fine by me and if you don't say merry christmas to me i get to punch you in the throat....deal?

I know you're joking but it shows that absolute idiocy of the situation. People are offended by something that people aren't telling them? Would you be really pissed off if someone told you you had nice eyes even though you thought that your lips were a better feature? Of course not.

 

[007]

btw.........puting in god we trust on our money is endorsement of religion.....having a federal holiday of christmas is endorsement of religion.....having your oath in court say so help me god is endorsement of religion....having an easter egg hunt on the east lawn is endorsement of religion....shall i go on?

That's the school's prerogative.

You're right, and technically, they should all be eliminated.
Do I care? No.

Just like WWII Germany aye M-P. Let's just completely rid America of EVERYTHING religous, even in the home, get rid of all the churches, symbols, prayer's, books, and then lets see what this country turns into after that. Yeah. It'll be legal to marry and fuck your six year old sister, or better yet your two year old dog.

You people have no idea what you court. The devil is driving your thinking and you don't even know it. You're too caught up in "it's all about me". You're shunning what is good and moral to pave the way for your sick, immoral world void of all religon and decency. What scares me is that you'll accomplish it before I die. I don't want to see it. Your filthy new America.

 

[Max Power]

Just like WWII Germany aye M-P. Let's just completely rid America of EVERYTHING religous, even in the home, get rid of all the churches, symbols, prayer's, books, and then lets see what this country turns into after that.

Sigh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

So predictable.

If it wasn't so ludicrous, I'd find this post insulting - the idea that following the first amendment is somehow equivalent to killing millions of people.

(And btw, you're the only person who's suggesting getting rid of churches, prayers, etc.)

 

[Hobbit]

Ok, Max, explain to me one thing. This is ALL the entire Constitution says about religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Now, when there's a federally mandated holiday that celebrates the birth of a human being and a philosopher, who some people believe to be God's son, how is a scene depicting the birth of that human being and philosopher located on public property an act of Congress that respects the establishment of a religion? Maybe you're reading a different constitution than I am.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Ok, Max, explain to me one thing. This is ALL the entire Constitution says about religion.



Now, when there's a federally mandated holiday that celebrates the birth of a human being and a philosopher, who some people believe to be God's son, how is a scene depicting the birth of that human being and philosopher located on public property an act of Congress that respects the establishment of a religion? Maybe you're reading a different constitution than I am.

Hobbit, do you really think that people make nativity scenes for Jesus the philosopher? You're stretching a bit much.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Hobbit, do you really think that people make nativity scenes for Jesus the philosopher? You're stretching a bit much.

That's not the point. A nativity scene is not "A law respecting the establishment of religion". It's religiously theme holiday decoration. Get a grip, christophobe.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

That's not the point. A nativity scene is not "A law respecting the establishment of religion". It's religiously theme holiday decoration. Get a grip, christophobel.

And I didn't say it was. Get a grip, spandex.

 

[no1tovote4]

Hobbit, do you really think that people make nativity scenes for Jesus the philosopher? You're stretching a bit much.

Either way it still isn't an act of Congress to establish a religion when such is displayed.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

And I didn't say it was. Get a grip, spandex.

Then get on the issue, and off the tangents. A nativity scene is not a law, now is it.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Then get on the issue, and off the tangents. A nativity scene is not a law, now is it.

Nope. Not a law. It's no fun when I agree with you, now is it?

If you don't like my tangential remarks, by the way, you're perfectly welcome to not read them.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Nope. Not a law. It's no fun when I agree with you, now is it?

If you don't like my tangential remarks, by the way, you're perfectly welcome to not read them.

Well I don't know if they're tangential until i read them. Anyway we still need to go get trashed, fight, and then hug. You said you're tall though right? Uh oh.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Well I don't know if they're tangential until i read them. Anyway we still need to go get trashed, fight, and then hug. You said you're tall though right? Uh oh.

Yeah. Well, maybe not the hug part, I've got this thing about hugging guys in spandex...

 

[Bonnie]

The Liberals Who Stole Christmas
By Selwyn Duke (12/12/05)

Liberals we are and though we eschew its reason,
Capitalize we will on the “Winter Break Season.”
It's good for making money and for spoiling offspring,
But mention the Son and from the gallows you’ll swing.


We abhor yuletide symbols, like red combined with green.
Of the latter color, only piles of cash should be seen.
Uttering the Lord's name causes us great pain.
‘Tis not to be done, ‘cept when taken in vain.

Profanity, immodesty and sass are free expression,
But no Christmas carols when school is in session.
And change “Silent Night” to “Cold in the Night,”
For not a remnant of faith will be allowed in sight.

No student laudation, words or writings of Jesus.
Tolerance is for others; Christianity doesn't please us.
If you ask us about it, we'll say “We're offended!”
So tradition, culture, and faith must be ended.

Kwanzaa is palatable, as are menorahs and witches,
But you Christians have gotten too big for your britches.
Islam doesn't scare us, and lest you wonder why,
‘Cause Christians speak of sin; ‘tis better to die.

Don’t look for consistency, we are ruled by feeling.
How far will we go? There is no ceiling.
As long as Christians dare to speak of morality,
We’ll attack them with vigor, the ACLU, and legality.

We’ll trumpet the separation of church and state.
What better way to sanitize our burning hate?
For in the courts of man we reign over your Lord.
With our stooges on the bench, we’re of one accord.

If you’re befuddled, you grasp not our psychology.
What ails us is akin to a frightful pathology.
You make us self-conscious with righteousness,
And we seek justification in relativistic bliss.

Our misery is brought to light by the joy you exude,
So your celebrations we endeavor to preclude.
It’s why we fight ardently in this cultural war:
To destroy your faith, its symbols, and its lore.

‘Tis your existence that accounts for our disposition
And our unholy launching of this secular inquisition.
If you’d just make haste and retire to Paradise,
We assuredly could find it in our hearts to be nice.

Now you know the story of our discontent
And why our minds are so wretchedly bent.
So ‘tis no secret that the rending of tradition
Is our greatest hope, dream, and abiding ambition.

This is why we have made a most demonic decision:
To heap on His servants our most strident derision.
For we shan’t rest till the land’s faith has died,
And we live to see Christ Jesus again crucified.

http://www.americandaily.com/article/10661

 

[007]

So predictable.

If it wasn't so ludicrous, I'd find this post insulting - the idea that following the first amendment is somehow equivalent to killing millions of people.

(And btw, you're the only person who's suggesting getting rid of churches, prayers, etc.)

I made NO MENTION OF KILLING ANYONE pinhead. I was returning comment to you saying this about RELIGOUS SYMBOLS. And as you can see, it was not "I" that suggested we, how do you say... "they should all be ELIMINATED"!

You're right, and technically, they should all be eliminated.
Do I care? No.

Thank you Bonnie for that outstanding poem. Part of it will help me illustrate my point to low-on-power... and comprehension...

Don’t look for consistency, we are ruled by feeling.
How far will we go? There is no ceiling.
As long as Christians dare to speak of morality,
We’ll attack them with vigor, the ACLU, and legality.

We’ll trumpet the separation of church and state.
What better way to sanitize our burning hate?
For in the courts of man we reign over your Lord.
With our stooges on the bench, we’re of one accord.

You liberal heathens WILL NOT BE HAPPY until CHRISTIANITY in this country is GONE. It's not just about Christmas. You're all out attack on Christmas is just one more opportunity beat Christians up. We stand in the way of your rush to promote your godless agenda, and throw morality to the wind.

 

[archangel]

you just don't want to see the descrimination against christianity...that's cool...i am sure you will be as neutral as sweden in WWII when basic fundemental building blocks of the US are further erroded

odd that you should say the beer thing my soon was sent home for wearing a micro brew hawaiian shirt yet the sikh kid got to wear his knife and the teacher that wore a cross was fired.....

btw.........puting in god we trust on our money is endorsement of religion.....having a federal holiday of christmas is endorsement of religion.....having your oath in court say so help me god is endorsement of religion....having an easter egg hunt on the east lawn is endorsement of religion....shall i go on?

No biggy...just that Sweden had some crack snow troops during WWII!

 

[Max Power]

Then get on the issue, and off the tangents. A nativity scene is not a law, now is it.

The constitution overrides any local law, or action by a local government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preemption_of_state_and_local_laws_in_the_United_States

 

[Max Power]

Ok, Max, explain to me one thing. This is ALL the entire Constitution says about religion.

Now, when there's a federally mandated holiday that celebrates the birth of a human being and a philosopher, who some people believe to be God's son, how is a scene depicting the birth of that human being and philosopher located on public property an act of Congress that respects the establishment of a religion? Maybe you're reading a different constitution than I am.

What ClayTaurus said.