OPPS... Clinton telling big fibs!!

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    More Unbelievable Propaganda in Katrina's Wake

    Tuesday, September 20, 2005

    By Bill O'Reilly



    More unbelievable propaganda in the wake of Katrina: that is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo".

    You know, I'm in a rather uncomfortable position of having to defend President Bush, who's being battered by partisan propaganda over Katrina. As we've stated, the president was late reacting to the storm and his hand-picked leaders did not do the job in FEMA and Homeland Security.

    But, I just can't sit here and let rank propaganda go unchallenged as most of the elite media does all day long. Now yesterday, President Bill Clinton appeared with George Stephanopoulos on ABC and said this about the poor and Katrina.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    BILL CLINTON, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.: This is a matter of public policy. And whether it's race based or not, if you give your tax cuts to the rich and hope everything works out all right and poverty goes up, and it disproportionately affects black and brown people, that's a consequence of the action made.

    That's what they did in the '80's. That's what they've done in this decade. In the middle, we had a different policy. We concentrated tax cuts on lower income working people, and benefits to low income people to help them move from welfare to work. And we moved 100 times as many people out of poverty. We know what works. And we had a program that was drastically reducing poverty. And they got rid of it. So -- and they don't believe in it...

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Believe in what?! What is Mr. Clinton talking about? What program did Mr. Bush get rid of?

    We called Mr. Clinton's office all day, looking for an answer to that very simple question. We didn't get one. Stephanopoulos sat there like a mummy, challenging nothing. The whole thing's absurd.

    Again, here are the facts. Black homeownership is up 2 percent under President Bush. Poverty spending is significantly higher under Bush than it was under Clinton. Educational spending for poor school districts is higher under Bush. And the poverty rate stood at 13.7 percent halfway through Clinton's tenure. It is 12.7 percent halfway through Bush's two terms.

    This "tax cuts for the rich" business is also blatantly dishonest. It's a ruse for the secular left to institute their income redistribution scheme. Under President Clinton, the tax rate climbed higher than at any time in history except in World War II. President Bush then came in and cut taxes for everyone. And guess what? Federal tax revenues will be more this year than at any time during the Clinton administration!

    Why? Because business is booming. That's why. Capitalism is working. And the more money corporations and workers make, the more taxes roll in, even at the reduced rate.

    So let's recap. Black homeownership up under Bush. Poverty entitlements up under Bush. Educational spending for the poor, up under Bush. Federal tax revenues, up under Bush. Are you taking this down, George Stephanopoulos?

    As for President Bush, he owes me big. I want a pen.

    And that's "The Memo."
     
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    awww, cmon...Clinton would never lie!
     
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    clinton: "We concentrated tax cuts on lower income working people, and benefits to low income people to help them move from welfare to work."

    ok....this statement says that he cut taxes on working people so they could move from welfare checks to a pay check and a job....this means that their welfare checks were bigger than any potential pay check they could have been getting because taxes were too high?..... so he cut taxes on pay checks and increased welfare benifits.....so when people moved from welfare to a paycheck they would make the same amount or more?

    he may sound smart but ...... damn if he is too dumb to know it
     
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    The Clinton Memorial Naval Vessel...
     

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    clinton: "We concentrated tax cuts on lower income working people, and benefits to low income people to help them move from welfare to work."

    LOL. He vetoed almost every budget that the Republican Congress passed, stopped the government, they would resubmit the same budget twice more, he would veto it one more time then sign it claiming victory for "his" programs that were all 100% part of the Contract With America. Almost all of Clintons success is because he was good at making things look like they were his ideas...
     
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    As this article says, Bubba the politician never disappoints.

    George and Bubba, Just Like Old Times
    By Wesley Pruden, The Washington Times
    September 20, 2005

    You can't blame an old yeller hound for chasing the occasional pickup, and you can't blame Bubba for chasing his tail.

    George Stephanopoulos invited Bubba on to his ABC-TV interview show the other day, and naturally he was eager for him to unload on George W. Bush. Bubba never disappoints.

    Rarely has the nation -- the people, not the politicians -- so come together to help neighbors in desperate need. From Skowhegan to San Diego, in supermarkets, mom-and-pop stores, back-road diners and chic uptown shops, the contribution can for Katrina relief has become the ubiquitous accessory to interstate commerce. Hundreds of Americans have streamed toward the Gulf coast to help. Fellow Baptists from Bubba's own home state are cooking 20,000 hot meals every day, for just one example, in refugee shelters in Mississippi and Louisiana. This is in addition to Americans of all faiths and no faith giving a billion dollars, or close to it, through the Salvation Army, church agencies, the American Red Cross and other charities. It's enough to make a Marine gunny sergeant choke on honest sentiment.

    But it's politics as usual with the pols, and particularly the pol who invented "feeling your pain" as the centerpiece of the permanent campaign. George Stephanopoulos, playing the dutiful straight man, threw out the race card and invited Bubba to play it: "Excuse me -- the problems of race that were tied to poverty [in New Orleans]. And I know you don't think there's any conscious racism at play in the response ... [Pause. Here's the windup.] But we saw one more time, blacks and whites looked at this event through very different eyes. What can President Bush do about that? [Here comes the spitball.] And looking back, do you think there's anything more you could have done as president?"

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    Bill O'Reilly isn't exactly being totally honest either.

    If you look at the poverty rates, they declined every year of Clinton's presidency, and have risen every year of Bush's presidency.

    Bill O'Reilly didn't outright lie, the 13.7% for Clinton vs. 12.7% for Bush statistic is true. But what's dishonest is not reporting the trend associated with it.

    Year - Poverty Rate
    CLINTON YEARS
    1993 - 15.1%
    1994 - 14.5%
    1995 - 13.8%
    1996 - 13.7%
    1997 - 13.3%
    1998 - 12.7%
    1999 - 11.9%
    2000 - 11.3%
    BUSH YEARS
    2001 - 11.7%
    2002 - 12.1%
    2003 - 12.5%
    2004 - 12.7%

    Source:
    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov2.html
     
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    That's what happens when we divert our priorities from the Conservative to the "compassionate" conservative.
     
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    I'm not versed enough to discern between what's because of compassionate conservatism and what's not. What I do know is that Reagan managed to turn the poverty rate around and bring it down his last 5 or 6 years. Bush I raised it all four of his years, Clinton lowered it, and Bush II is raising it again.

    My point was that to claim that Bush is somehow better than Clinton on poverty because of the numbers at an arbitrary time in each's presidency is dishonest. It makes it appear as though Bush has lowered poverty since when Clinton was in office, and that's not true.
     
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    Is this really news anymore? Oh wow, Clinton told a lie. Thats never happened before.
     

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