Annie
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And if its a republican area they will starve.
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And if its a republican area they will starve.
And if its a republican area they will starve.
And if its a republican area they will starve.
You won't find many republicans on foodstamps. Wonder why that is...
Food Stamps are the Best return on your stimulis dollar.
They return like 1.76 in stimulis for every 1 spent.
Unemployement extensions also return at a great rate.
Tax Cuts produce next to NOTHING in return.
So a dollar of food stamp money spent on groceries produces a large stimulus but a dollar of tax cut money spent on groceries produces no stimulus effect? A dollar unemployment money likewise produces a large stimulus effect but a dollar of tax cut money spent on the same thing produces no stimulus effect?
That's an amazing discovery.
Its in the Moodys study done very recently.
Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008
I was notified by my children's school that I qualified for food stamps and hot lunch program for the children in the year after my divorce. I didn't take it, was able to make ends meet. They didn't eat 'school lunches' as I knew mine were healthier and way less expensive. Probably would have qualified again as child support dwindled as each child turned 18, but kept picking up extra jobs.
Robert seems to believe that being poor means you slave and get no where or are too stupid or lazy to get things done.
I believe people can run into really tough times, through little or no fault of their own. I think when those things happen, one needs a safety net, I just believe most of us have the resources to find the help within family, friends, churches. If none of those can be availed upon, certainly there should be programs, but the more local, (ie city/county), the better. Why? They know the area, know the job market, know contacts. There is also the support available when one starts picking up the pieces from the crises.
Robert you are so filled with self-importance and self-righteousness you are clueless to what you are actually saying.I was notified by my children's school that I qualified for food stamps and hot lunch program for the children in the year after my divorce. I didn't take it, was able to make ends meet. They didn't eat 'school lunches' as I knew mine were healthier and way less expensive. Probably would have qualified again as child support dwindled as each child turned 18, but kept picking up extra jobs.
Robert seems to believe that being poor means you slave and get no where or are too stupid or lazy to get things done.
I believe people can run into really tough times, through little or no fault of their own. I think when those things happen, one needs a safety net, I just believe most of us have the resources to find the help within family, friends, churches. If none of those can be availed upon, certainly there should be programs, but the more local, (ie city/county), the better. Why? They know the area, know the job market, know contacts. There is also the support available when one starts picking up the pieces from the crises.
I rarely say this to a woman but Annie, for the part I bolded you can go fuck yourself for mischaracterizing my position. The nerve of you to say such a thing.
Robert you are so filled with self-importance and self-righteousness you are clueless to what you are actually saying.
Robert you are so filled with self-importance and self-righteousness you are clueless to what you are actually saying.
Silly me, it seems I must of forgot that you know my position even better then I do Annie. I also seemed to forgot that you're never wrong, ever. How dare I even question your word that is the gospel, especially since your older and must be automatically right.
If I was filled with self-importance and self-righteousness in general, I'd never admit I was wrong. However, I have admitted I was wrong when I am. I've proven you wrong on several things several times; and you've never admitted such a thing.
So I think as always, people in glass houses (you) should not throw stones.
Again, wrong. I've admitted to be wrong many a time. Problem with your premise, you were not right. Perhaps I wasn't either. In any case, didn't warrant your comment. You are an adult and should control your temper.
I was notified by my children's school that I qualified for food stamps and hot lunch program for the children in the year after my divorce. I didn't take it, was able to make ends meet. They didn't eat 'school lunches' as I knew mine were healthier and way less expensive. Probably would have qualified again as child support dwindled as each child turned 18, but kept picking up extra jobs.
Robert seems to believe that being poor means you slave and get no where or are too stupid or lazy to get things done.
I believe people can run into really tough times, through little or no fault of their own. I think when those things happen, one needs a safety net, I just believe most of us have the resources to find the help within family, friends, churches. If none of those can be availed upon, certainly there should be programs, but the more local, (ie city/county), the better. Why? They know the area, know the job market, know contacts. There is also the support available when one starts picking up the pieces from the crises.
I rarely say this to a woman but Annie, for the part I bolded you can go fuck yourself for mischaracterizing my position. The nerve of you to say such a thing.
Again, wrong. I've admitted to be wrong many a time. Problem with your premise, you were not right. Perhaps I wasn't either. In any case, didn't warrant your comment. You are an adult and should control your temper.
My temper is quite controlled. But you made such a mischaracterization of my position it'd be like saying me twisting something you said into something negative about your kids (if you have any).
You wouldn't like that very much. Obviously, I have no kids but I find such mischaracterizations to be highly wrong. And the thing that makes it worse is that you are intelligent Annie and know exactly what you're doing.
None of you on this board have even seen me angry. Though I grow tired of having to have character debates instead of debates on the issues daily. It's like finding a needle in a haystack when trying to have a civilized conversation with people on here anymore.
And to think that I'd thought things would get better after the elections. It's quite obvious that many Republicans are still in denial, angry, or throwing temper tantrums. (Not saying you are Annie).
Last time I'll try to get you to understand. Both Dis and I showed multiple examples of how families could get the biggest bang for their grocery dollars, food stamps or not. You throw in some bromide that many poor only get a few hours sleep before their next shift. They need processed foods, which are expensive and nutritionally weak. Especially for blacks, with a predisposition to high blood pressure.
Even without the sleep problem, you seem to think they are incapable of making good decisions. I would characterize that as noblesse oblige.
Tough choices for America's hungry - CNN.com
I hope we can all agree on that.
It's a disgrace we call ourselves the "richest nation on earth" while 31 million of our citizens or every 1/10 cannot even afford to feed their family or themselves anymore.
Overall I agree with this. However, it still bothers me when I see someone using food stamps who is driving a brand new Cadillac. We all know what I'm talking about. No, not everyone on food stamps drives a nice brand new car, but you know what I'm talking about.
Lets not forget about the lady at the grocery store using her EBT card as she yaks on her cell phone about how expensive her cable bill is.
Overall I agree with this. However, it still bothers me when I see someone using food stamps who is driving a brand new Cadillac. We all know what I'm talking about. No, not everyone on food stamps drives a nice brand new car, but you know what I'm talking about.
Lets not forget about the lady at the grocery store using her EBT card as she yaks on her cell phone about how expensive her cable bill is.
Okay ... the Cell Phone thing ... though the cable part is certainly bad the phone is a need for some now, thanks to society becoming so "connected" almost all pay phones in some areas are completely gone. In Seattle we have one pay phone every ten blocks, and those rarely work thanks to thieves breaking them to get the change (what, a whole 50 cents ... stupid). So it depends on where you live as to if the phones become needed or not. When I was in the shelter some of them had those prepaid phones with free nighttime calls, during the day it was just for housing or job calls and at night it was to chat with others. They are cheap to, I can find phones (decent ones) for like $5 in my area if you don't mind a slightly used one and prepaid is about $20 a month for most plans.
Lets not forget about the lady at the grocery store using her EBT card as she yaks on her cell phone about how expensive her cable bill is.
Okay ... the Cell Phone thing ... though the cable part is certainly bad the phone is a need for some now, thanks to society becoming so "connected" almost all pay phones in some areas are completely gone. In Seattle we have one pay phone every ten blocks, and those rarely work thanks to thieves breaking them to get the change (what, a whole 50 cents ... stupid). So it depends on where you live as to if the phones become needed or not. When I was in the shelter some of them had those prepaid phones with free nighttime calls, during the day it was just for housing or job calls and at night it was to chat with others. They are cheap to, I can find phones (decent ones) for like $5 in my area if you don't mind a slightly used one and prepaid is about $20 a month for most plans.
Carrying on a conversation on the cell phone while paying for groceries is just bad manners imo. However, cell phones are a must today and you can get prepaid phones with limited minutes for very little money these days. It's actually cheaper than having a land line.