On the 40th Anniversary of Roe v Wade

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    Rising Support for Abortion Rights Despite Anti-Choice Activism and State Sabotage of the ability to exercise those rights.

    The state of abortion rights, 40 years later ? MSNBC

    Roe v Wade

    Roe v. Wade

    I find it interesting that no one left or right has commemorated this anniversary. One would think the pretend libertarians would be celebrating the right of the individual to assert dominion over her own body... but they don't. the real libertarians do, though.

    one might also wonder where the pretend constitutionalists are when it comes to defending our right of privacy from government intrusion into our lives.

    they are no where to be found.

    and still the majority of us support the right of a woman to be free of government interference during the first trimester of a pregnancy.

    abortion should be safe, readily available and infrequently needed.
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    i totally agree!
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    It’s the consequence of the bane of social conservatism, and some bizarre perception of states’ rights, where the ‘tyranny’ of the Federal government is condemned yet the states are allowed to exact the same tyranny with impunity.
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    they don't much care for the whole states' rights thing when it comes to guns. isn't that funny? well, no, it's not really... they know that rights can be abridged if one works them on a state by state basis.

    like what is happening in mississippi.
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    i knew you would. :beer:
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    addendum to the o/p... apparently someone on the right DID notice the anniversary.
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    Yes, the old ‘but that’s not in the Constitution’ dodge.

    Of course neither ‘self-defense’ nor ‘individual’ are found in the Second Amendment.

    Perhaps the reason why the 40th anniversary has gone relatively unnoted is because an entire generation of Americans has grown up enjoying the benefit of the right to privacy, just as they enjoy the right to free speech and freedom of assembly.
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    Will Mississippi Close Its Last Abortion Clinic? - Alissa Quart - The Atlantic
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    Can't wimmen just go to another state to have their babies sucked into a sink? :confused:
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    Nope – that darn Constitution thing will just get in the way.
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    As I recall the rally cry to strip us of our second amendment rights is " its for the children" But you all don't mind the legal murder of millions of unborn children year in and year out. How quaint.
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    "Infrequently needed" yet frequently utilized. It's become a matter of convenience.

    Parenting should be an act of selflessness, not selfishness.
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    how is having an abortion, parenting?
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    Exactly. And don't call me parenting. :D
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    then your statement makes no sense.

    if you don't believe in abortions and you're a woman, don't have one.

    if you don't believe in abortions and you're a man, shut the fuck up.

    seems pretty simple to me, parenting.
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    gee... how 'bout you move to a state where you can own a gun

    :thup:
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    I agree, although I think it's frequently used as birth control for lazy/irresponsible people.

    If you watch the video in the link below, including the commentary afterwards, I think most of us (women) would agree how creepy it is even if you want abortion to remain legal.

    Pro-Abortion Group Celebrates Roe v. Wade Anniversary With Bizarre Ad | Fox News Insider
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    I believe there is a better answer ladies, abortion sucks, I cannot support it under any circumstance...

    Being a man I do not pretend to know what it does to a woman's life, or her body...

    I have been blessed with three exceptional children, how anyone could deny life to unfold is hard for me to understand or comprehend...

    There is a better solution to this, hopefully someday in my lifetime we find it...
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    I do belive in abortions. I do I do I do I do believe in abortions. But I ain't a woman.

    BTW, that's "shut the fuck up, please". Got that. :D

    I just don't "believe" that it should have been legally made a practice of convenience and selfishness.

    And if, as a man, I "shut the fuck up" 31 years ago... my first born would not be the Creative Executive at a major Hollywood studio making more money than his dad. You know- paying taxes, contributing to society, etc. etc.

    As I've stated elsewhere, my ex would have liked nothing more than to have him sucked from her womb. She was selfish.

    Me, being selfless, gently directed our marriage toward a parenting existence.

    And now... you know... the rest of the story.
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    well, let's leave it where we agree... which is the part bolded above. i think the concept of it being used by "lazy/irresponsible" people is actually an effort to inflame. i don't believe it has much validity, though it may be that the odd person abuses the privilege.

    as for the video, if it's creepy, i'm pretty sure it's intended to be. i wouldn't rely much on it. i certainly have no desire to watch it because it won't change my mind about the need for government to stay out of our most private decisions. i thought roe was pretty fair in terms of where the line was.

    finally i think we might be able to agree that being pro-choice is not the same as being pro-abortion. i think with education and availability of contraception, abortion should become rarer and rarer.

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