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I’ve got the Torah; I don’t need you cherry picked secular history.Muslims descend from Cham, not Shem.Genesis, chapter 10...Shem settles what is later conquered by the grandchildren of Canaan.The Jewish people are the indigenous peoples.
The Mandate for Palestine is clearly explained in the Mandate for Palestine. It specifically and exclusively invites Jewish participation in Jewish Self-government.
Sam Remo has the force of law.
And the Treaty of Sevres was never ratified and replaced by the Treat of Lausanne.
Nonsense.
According to Jewish beliefs, Jews had absolutely nothing at all to do with the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC, when they invaded.
So they are NOT at all indigenous, and they never even stayed long.
They were kicked out by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and Romans, who finally kept them out for good.
There was no significant Jewish presence in Palestine until around the 1930s.
And it is a total like to claim the British Mandate for Palestine allowed for any Jewish participation in the government.
The Jewish homeland was to be an enclave within the Arab/Muslim Palestine.
Not only would the British have no authority to allow any Jewish sovereignty in Palestine, but the vast majority were Arab Muslims, and the Jews were never more than 30%, and in fact even now there are only 6 million Jews in Israel/Palestine, and there are 12 million Arab Muslims in Israel/Palestine.
The Treaty of Sevres was ratified, but the Treaty of San Remo also establishes an independent Arab Palestine, and give ZERO to Jews except facilitated immigration considerations.
The Treat of Lausanne did supercede the Treaty of Sevres, but that was ONLY regarding sovereignty within Turkey, and changed NOTHING regarding the fact Palestine was to be ensured independence as an Arab/Muslim state, in reward for the Arab aid to the Allies in WWI.
The Jews took no part in WWI, so would have absolutely no part in ANY treaty.
Again, read the facts, such as the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922 on the Balfour Declaration,
The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922
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The tension which has prevailed from time to time in Palestine is mainly due to apprehensions, which are entertained both by sections of the Arab and by sections of the Jewish population. These apprehensions, so far as the Arabs are concerned are partly based upon exaggerated interpretations of the meaning of the [Balfour] Declaration favouring the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, made on behalf of His Majesty's Government on 2nd November, 1917.
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."
It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.
Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
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Clearly there was never any valid authorization for any Jewish sovereignty in the Mideast.
Israel is an invasion that amounts to a war crime.
The descendants of Shem took it back.
First of all, the Bible is a myth that can not be used to prove anything, and second is the fact that Arab also have descendants of Shem. The word Semitic comes from being descendants of Shem, and means those who speak a native Arab language. It does not mean Jewish, and Jews are only one of the descendants of Shem.
Wrong.
PART THREE: THE LINEAGE OF SHEM
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(48) Shem
The progenitor of all the Semitic races. The name, Shem, is rendered as Sumu in the Akkadian inscriptions. At the time of the scattering of the nations from Babel, the descendants of Japheth (see 1) migrated to the north and north-west of Shinar, mainly towards Europe. They also migrated to the south-east towards the Indian sub-continent, and thence to the Far East. The descendants of Shem and Ham however, shared between them the southern and central regions of Asia Minor and Arabia, with Ham's descendants subsequently spreading onto the African continent.
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If Arab were not linked to Shem, then people of the Arab language group would not have been called Semitic.
While we should never take the Bible literally as a reference, it is clear that the Hebrew tribes are a member of the Arab language group, and therefore are the same people originally.
Hebrew were and are Arabs.
Muslims not only are of the same lineage, but since they share the same Old Testament, they are just a Jewish reformation.
Yishmael was kicked out by Avraham and shared no history with Shem from them on; yes, I am aware that Muslims rewrote this in their Koran.
Almost all of this history is conjured up by atheists and is worthless.