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If it came from anyone but O'Keefe it might be taken seriously
Then certainly you can explain, using your own grown up words please, why this undercover video cannot be taken seriously. No ad hominem, no red herrings, no emotionally based rants please. Just tells us exactly why we should not take this seriously.
Go on...
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
it's not voter id's that are opposed, but the requirement that people have to go and get a pictured government ID, ones "papers" that is objectionable...Having to show that you live at the address that you are registered under is not a problem with me at all and this would have stopped Okeefe from the get go....it's forcing people who have lived their lives in this country for decades and in some cases have even served their country during war, that do not have a valid government issued photo ID like the old man in a story posted here at usmb a short time ago, that are denied their right to vote in the voting booth due to the lack of such photo id, that bothers me....I have never met a Republican who opposes voter ID - only Democrats. Even Libertarians are in favor it it. Why is that?
I have no problem with voting precincts requiring other forms of id....
It won't solve the problem of the dead voting by having a pictured id at the polls either....the dead can vote in mass via absentee ballot voting and this is where the voter fraud takes place, and this focus on making us all get a pictured government id to stop fraud is simply a ruse....while the REAL voter fraud is taking place via absentee ballot and via the registration process.
Illegal aliens have USA gvt id's with pictures on them....they have driver's licenses, so this law is not even stopping them from voting.
Then certainly you can explain, using your own grown up words please, why this undercover video cannot be taken seriously. No ad hominem, no red herrings, no emotionally based rants please. Just tells us exactly why we should not take this seriously.
Go on...
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
You are so full of shit you are turning the pages brown. You might want to look through election stats to see how many times the county elections officers are held to account for totals that dont add.
My state alone proves you are full of shit.
Then certainly you can explain, using your own grown up words please, why this undercover video cannot be taken seriously. No ad hominem, no red herrings, no emotionally based rants please. Just tells us exactly why we should not take this seriously.
Go on...
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
Of course, had he signed that card, he would have been actually committing fraud, after which you'd claim we shouldn't listen to him because he broke the law.
What a twisted little world of false logic you put forth. It's really quite pathetic.
I can appreciate what you are saying, but as Spock once said "the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few, or the one". Hermits that live in caves need to get an ID and stop whining - or else get used to not voting.it's not voter id's that are opposed, but the requirement that people have to go and get a pictured government ID, ones "papers" that is objectionable...Having to show that you live at the address that you are registered under is not a problem with me at all and this would have stopped Okeefe from the get go....it's forcing people who have lived their lives in this country for decades and in some cases have even served their country during war, that do not have a valid government issued photo ID like the old man in a story posted here at usmb a short time ago, that are denied their right to vote in the voting booth due to the lack of such photo id, that bothers me....I have never met a Republican who opposes voter ID - only Democrats. Even Libertarians are in favor it it. Why is that?
I have no problem with voting precincts requiring other forms of id....
It won't solve the problem of the dead voting by having a pictured id at the polls either....the dead can vote in mass via absentee ballot voting and this is where the voter fraud takes place, and this focus on making us all get a pictured government id to stop fraud is simply a ruse....while the REAL voter fraud is taking place via absentee ballot and via the registration process.
Illegal aliens have USA gvt id's with pictures on them....they have driver's licenses, so this law is not even stopping them from voting.
How so? What does a pictured id have that having your electric bill and a recent pay stub with your name on it not work in identifying yourself as the person registered? Why must citizens who have lived their entire lives without a government pictured id be forced to get one by the gvt?it's not voter id's that are opposed, but the requirement that people have to go and get a pictured government ID, ones "papers" that is objectionable...Having to show that you live at the address that you are registered under is not a problem with me at all and this would have stopped Okeefe from the get go....it's forcing people who have lived their lives in this country for decades and in some cases have even served their country during war, that do not have a valid government issued photo ID like the old man in a story posted here at usmb a short time ago, that are denied their right to vote in the voting booth due to the lack of such photo id, that bothers me....I have never met a Republican who opposes voter ID - only Democrats. Even Libertarians are in favor it it. Why is that?
I have no problem with voting precincts requiring other forms of id....
It won't solve the problem of the dead voting by having a pictured id at the polls either....the dead can vote in mass via absentee ballot voting and this is where the voter fraud takes place, and this focus on making us all get a pictured government id to stop fraud is simply a ruse....while the REAL voter fraud is taking place via absentee ballot and via the registration process.
Illegal aliens have USA gvt id's with pictures on them....they have driver's licenses, so this law is not even stopping them from voting.
You pretty much defeated your own argument...you realize this?
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
Of course, had he signed that card, he would have been actually committing fraud, after which you'd claim we shouldn't listen to him because he broke the law.
What a twisted little world of false logic you put forth. It's really quite pathetic.
All O'Keefe proved in his doctored video is that right wing idiots such as yourself will believe anything he tells you
The purpose of his little scam was to show how easy it is to vote under Eric Holders name. The first check of your validity to vote is to compare signatures. He never actually got that far did he?
I could do the same thing O'Keefe did with voter ID in place. I could walk up to a polling place and say my name was Eric Holder. Then, when they ask for my ID, say I left it in the car. Isn't that the same thing O'Keefe did and is screaming voter fraud?
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
You are so full of shit you are turning the pages brown. You might want to look through election stats to see how many times the county elections officers are held to account for totals that dont add.
My state alone proves you are full of shit.
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
it's not voter id's that are opposed, but the requirement that people have to go and get a pictured government ID, ones "papers" that is objectionable...Having to show that you live at the address that you are registered under is not a problem with me at all and this would have stopped Okeefe from the get go....it's forcing people who have lived their lives in this country for decades and in some cases have even served their country during war, that do not have a valid government issued photo ID like the old man in a story posted here at usmb a short time ago, that are denied their right to vote in the voting booth due to the lack of such photo id, that bothers me....I have never met a Republican who opposes voter ID - only Democrats. Even Libertarians are in favor it it. Why is that?
I have no problem with voting precincts requiring other forms of id....
It won't solve the problem of the dead voting by having a pictured id at the polls either....the dead can vote in mass via absentee ballot voting and this is where the voter fraud takes place, and this focus on making us all get a pictured government id to stop fraud is simply a ruse....while the REAL voter fraud is taking place via absentee ballot and via the registration process.
Illegal aliens have USA gvt id's with pictures on them....they have driver's licenses, so this law is not even stopping them from voting.
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
How are you going to compare signatures when the poll worker has nothing to compare it to????????????
You are so full of shit you are turning the pages brown. You might want to look through election stats to see how many times the county elections officers are held to account for totals that dont add.
My state alone proves you are full of shit.
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
That isnt the point moron.
The voting precincts have x amount of time for verification. Often unable to meet the demand on time set by the legislature.
You dont have the know how, to defeat me here.
Since it wasnt sent for verification neither of us can prove the points with this ballot.
But your dumbass is trying.
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
If it came from anyone but O'Keefe it might be taken seriously
Then certainly you can explain, using your own grown up words please, why this undercover video cannot be taken seriously. No ad hominem, no red herrings, no emotionally based rants please. Just tells us exactly why we should not take this seriously.
Go on...
This is going to be hard...
Where was the guy ever offered Holders ballot? You claim that voter fraud is so easy that even Eric Holders ballot can be defrauded
The process is....you sign your name and they verify your signature against the signature on file. The fraud ran off without signing.
The process worked
You sir are full of shit..
Show me where in the O'Keefe propaganda video they ever got to signature verification. The video is a fraud. Just like everything else O'Keefe puts out
Eric Holders signature is in that book. When the pollster asked the phony to sign, he ran away
Proves a lot doesn't it?
Eric Holders signature is in that book. When the pollster asked the phony to sign, he ran away
Proves a lot doesn't it?
That isnt where they verify signatures numb nuts..................
How so? What does a pictured id have that having your electric bill and a recent pay stub with your name on it not work in identifying yourself as the person registered? Why must citizens who have lived their entire lives without a government pictured id be forced to get one by the gvt?
and why should you be allowed to treat citizens differently, making it easier for the wealthier to vote, who own cars thus already have a gvt pictured id, vs. the person who does not drive and does not already have a gvt pictured id, when the electric bill and paystub will work just as well?
