OK Obama You don't Want Keystone.. you want another Exxon Valdez???

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    I'm trying to understand Obama/environmentalists logic which I know sounds like an oxymoron "Obama/environmentalists logic".. but WHY would any one want to risk another Exxon Valdez whereas the Keystone exposes at the most one mile to 325 barrels of oil in a spill?

    Really explain to me how it is MORE risk to have a static pipeline that can be shut down in minutes if there is a leak and the worst spill could be in one mile of pipe with less then 80 barrels in a 1/4 of mile.. 160 barrels in a half mile.. YET...
    To ship the oil to China 1 million barrels a day in a Tanker on the Pacific exposing thousands of square miles and coastlines as well as 100,000s of wild life... all to the risk of
    an oil tanker with crew subject to weather and equipment malfunctions every day!

    And this is a SMART president??

    More importantly though.. EXPLAIN to me where the MSM is on this question..
    Why Mr. President are you in favor of the higher chance and greater damage of another Exxon Valdez?

    Please environmentalists... explain why a pipeline with 325 barrels is a greater risk then a 1 million barrel tanker on the ocean damaging thousands of miles?
     
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    It's not Obama's fault that he had to make this choice. And make it badly.

    It is all those evil Republicans who thought that three years of sitting on the pot needed to produce some solid result.
     
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    I know! And I would really like someone to pick up on this fact that there is a greater risk and MORE damage done by another Exxon Valdez versus 325 barrels in one mile of pipe!

    WHERE IS the environmentalists on this?
    Where is the MSM explaining the differences!

    I think a lot of people hear 800,000 barrel pipeline and naively don't realize there
    isn't 800,000 barrels in one mile, 10 miles but total 2,147 miles!

    And so there is NOT 1 million barrels at ONE time in ONE tanker.. but in
    one mile less then 325 barrels!
     
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    Envronmentalist in Canada are fighting the Kitimat pipeline as well.

    The Keystone segment coming to Texas does not require ferderal approval.

    The border crossing section will be approved this year.

    The refined product will be exported and will not lead to lower fuel cost in the US.
     
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    AUGUSTA — Kalamazoo County officials declared a state of emergency Tuesday afternoon as more than 800,000 gallons of oil released into a creek began making its way downstream in the Kalamazoo River.

    “I just came from Fort Custer and you can smell it now,” Kalamazoo County Undersheriff Pali Matyas said. “... It’s all rolling downhill and there are a lot of complications.”

    Oil spill update: State of emergency declared as 800,000 gallons of leaked oil begins flowing through Kalamazoo County | MLive.com

    Maybe this will help.

    I LOVE helping the "ignert".
     
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    800,000 GALLONS is NOT 1 million barrels!
    Here let me help you ... a barrel is 42 gallons so ... 20,000 barrels more or less...
    THAT is 1% of what an Exxon Valdez carried!

    AGAIN WHAT is so hard to comprehend? 1 million barrels versus 325 barrels in one mile!
     
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    Granny says, "Looks like it already happened...
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    Exxon pipeline leaks thousands of barrels of Canadian oil in Arkansas
    March 31, 2013 – Exxon Mobil was working to clean up thousands of barrels of oil in Mayflower, Arkansas, after a pipeline carrying heavy Canadian crude ruptured, a major spill likely to stoke debate over transporting Canada's oil to the United States.
     
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    Obviously 20,000 barrels can leak no matter how many barrels are in a mile! Also tar sand leaks are more environmentally damaging than the light sweet crude in a tanker at sea.
     
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    they would rather have a train wreck carrying crude oil

    spilling thousands of gallons of oil

    in a city or in a pristine area

    Massive oil spill in Minnesota as freight train carrying haul from Canada derailed and spilled 30,000 GALLONS of crude | Mail Online
     
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    So you admit that tankers aren't safe to carry oil.
     

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