OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

[WEATHER53]

The catch is you have to be working and earning an income to get any tax reduction benefit and that’s just too emotionally space invading for liberals

 

[francoHFW]

dude, you know absolutely nothing about taxes.

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

 

[francoHFW]

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

I think they should do away with States the government is expensive and stupid and I don't like state license plates meaning stop me cops or something like.

 

[Lesh]

A whole lot of folks are working and got nothing.... or like me, worse

 

[francoHFW]

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

I think they should do away with States the government is expensive and stupid and I don't like state license plates meaning stop me cops or something like.

Hey you can keep the name of the area and the borders though they won't count anymore. Local government I like state government not so much. Especially in Alabama Mississippi Arkansas Oklahoma etc

 

[imawhosure]

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

Code? Code!?!?!?! That is the most uneducated bunch of nonsense I have ever heard. What do you think, we just sit here and try and figure a way to screw other Americans?

Because we ask you to leave us alone, that is code for us screwing you? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds!

Honestly, I give up on you, lol. I don't sit and try and figure a way to take your money, I vote for you to get tax breaks. The only thing I contemplate, is how to stop people like YOU from taking MY money. If anything, YOU are trying to screw ME!

 

[francoHFW]

A whole lot of folks are working and got nothing.... or like me, worse

Phil lesh? I wish you luck you seem very intelligent life is tough. I wish we were Denmark well in many countries they have free University and training opportunities gone to hell here... they pay you to go to college. I think I may go retire as a student in France LOL

 

[francoHFW]

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

Code? Code!?!?!?! That is the most uneducated bunch of nonsense I have ever heard. What do you think, we just sit here and try and figure a way to screw other Americans?

Because we ask you to leave us alone, that is code for us screwing you? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds!

Honestly, I give up on you, lol. I don't sit and try and figure a way to take your money, I vote for you to get tax breaks. The only thing I contemplate, is how to stop people like YOU from taking MY money. If anything, YOU are trying to screw ME!

You are a dupe of the people who are raising taxes on you, the Republicans the GOP they cut federal taxes and state taxes and local taxes and fees go up which kill regular people. End of story. They don't tax the rich enough and they have been in charge for 35 years as far as tax rates go. It was 90% under Eisenhower 70% under Kennedy then 50% under Reagan and he did well but on his way out he changed it to 28% and we are screwed. what is it now? NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A HEALTHY ECONOMY.

 

[Aponi]

Most of that stuff has nothing to do with government, super dupe, and every other modern country manages it, except here,thanks to this scumbag greedy idiot GOP and it's brainwashed silly dupes like you

dude, you know absolutely nothing about taxes.

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
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Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

 

[francoHFW]

they also did a penny an ounce tax on soda pop and tea sales. it went to court and it was removed, can you believe that? I live in illinois, it is the most fked up state beside California. not sure who is worse. I give it to California because they let their citizens poop in the streets. I can't even imagine that. leftists have no human sincerity

Illinois is as crooked as they come. That is why people are fleeing it. They have no answer for that, and I was seeing Pritzker wants to raise taxes on business, lol. They are going under, hope you get out before it happens.

On the other hand they give a lot of money in federal taxes to crap red states that need the help. A lot of the supposed corruption is GOP propaganda of course...

Fascinating! I thought we were all Americans, and now you want to classify states by "crap" red states. Aren't we all supposed to be on the same page unless there is a national election going on?

Honestly, I do not see much difference between red/blue states, except for the governance. We all care about our kids, our nation, and worry about war, etc.

Sincerely, I am not going to devolve our conversation into "crap" red states, or "garbage" blue states. If we follow OUR constitution, we can basically choose how "crappy," or "garbagy" we want our local government to be. That is the freedom we enjoy! If my state chooses to have gravel state roads because we do not want to pay for them, or your state chooses to have roads paved in gold, it is a LOCAL choice! As long as we pay or save locally, why should anyone else be involved, and we are the ones who will enjoy, or suffer, the consequences.

It is when Washington INSISTS on "one form fits all," that we lose our freedom of choice as states. Would you like me to insist your roads be paved with gravel, or gold? That your autos need no pollution control, or that you MUST drive an electric car?

That is what I PERCEIVE you want, and you want YOUR agenda in control of Washington, to impose your will on the rest of us.

Look, I could care less if your state wants infanticide, even if I think it is wrong. If the citizens of your state are willing to buy it, who am I to tell them they can not. It is NOT covered in the constitution of this country, so I have very little influence on your decision. In fact, ABORTION is not addressed any place in the constitution, and that is how Americans should view it. You don't like it, then handle it in your state, for your state. Our constitution is pretty narrow, if you actually read it.

It is when Washington decides to impose its will upon the states that I cringe. FOR INSTANCE----------------->You want healthcare for all? Then do it in YOUR STATE like Massachusetts did! You want a green new deal? Put it in your state! You want free college? You have a state, do it! You want to give illegals everything for free? You have a state, invoke it! NOBODY has stopped you yet, look at California. Over 40% of the population there, doesn't even use English as their primary language. What does that tell you, and how can you claim anyone has interfered?!?!?!?!

As long as you leave the rest of us alone, WE DON'T CARE! You want to pay higher taxes, GO FOR IT! And you know what, if it is utopia as you claim, those great states will start repopulating! Like I said, "just leave us alone."

Yes back to the eighteenth century, great idea. Actually blue States pay for the red States paving of their gravel roads LOL... States rights are code for back to the good old days of slavery LOL. The age of information is going to take care of you pal. Your facts are all wrong by the way LOL.

Code? Code!?!?!?! That is the most uneducated bunch of nonsense I have ever heard. What do you think, we just sit here and try and figure a way to screw other Americans?

Because we ask you to leave us alone, that is code for us screwing you? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds!

Honestly, I give up on you, lol. I don't sit and try and figure a way to take your money, I vote for you to get tax breaks. The only thing I contemplate, is how to stop people like YOU from taking MY money. If anything, YOU are trying to screw ME!

the Democratic party and I want to cut taxes on regular people and raise them on the rich, this is totally out of hand.

 

[francoHFW]

dude, you know absolutely nothing about taxes.

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
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So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

 

[Aponi]

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
View attachment 256191
Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

We dont have a flat tax are you related to cortez

 

[Aponi]

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
View attachment 256191
Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

 

[francoHFW]

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
View attachment 256191
Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

We dont have a flat tax are you related to cortez

we do if you count all taxes and fees.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post

Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

 

[francoHFW]

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
View attachment 256191
Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

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Thanks for the propaganda spam, brainwashed functional moron....

 

[Markle]

Do you have a single example of my idiocy, troll?

 

[Markle]

So why are we the only major country where the rich don't pay their fair share, and there is no living wage Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college in training good vacations and infrastructure, dumbass dupe, or for that matter a national ID card to end illegal immigration. Every other modern country manages it...Look in the mirror super duper.

We're smarter.

 

[francoHFW]

So why are we the only major country where the rich don't pay their fair share, and there is no living wage Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college in training good vacations and infrastructure, dumbass dupe, or for that matter a national ID card to end illegal immigration. Every other modern country manages it...Look in the mirror super duper.

We're smarter.

Actually you are a bunch of brainwashed functional assholes.... LOL. And totally screwed over by the greedy idiot mega Rich GOP.

 

[BrokeLoser]

He knows absolutely NOTHING, about anything, lol.

WAIT, WAIT, isn't he the guy from Illinois, or was it another Leftist?

Well SUPER DUPER, explain to all these nice people on here, how charming and delightful Illinois, put a special tax on cell phone service of...……...20% higher than most any other place in the country?

Now people may ask, "Whosure, why did Illinois do that, and why did their citizens agree?"

ANSWER-------------------> They talked their citizens into it, because they needed the revenue for the OLYMPIC village they were going to build, when they won the Olympic bid!

Hold on a second, they didn't win the Olympic bid, you say!

EXACTLY, but the tax remains-)

But Whosure, that is only 1 measly example of crooked Leftists screwing their peeps.

Well, how about Pennsylvania putting in a special 10% tax on spirits to rebuild a town destroyed by flood in the early 1900s. They DID use it to rebuild the town...……….which is exactly why the citizens agreed to it across the state. Funny though, the town was rebuilt 80yrs ago, but the tax still remains, lol. (Illinois must have learned this trick from them)

How many have cable TV and internet on here? Did you get the speel about 59.95, or maybe 89.95, or whatever number? Did you EVER look at your bill to figure out why? Look at the TAXES on it! Most of you are paying through the nose to the government.

People should really look up hidden taxes. If they really knew how much of many of the items you purchase are taxes, you would be screaming. On that part, FRANCO is 100% correct. Funny thing is--------------->instead of demanding they lower them, he insists that somehow, certain people pay more, so as other people pay less. He sees NOTHING WRONG with the taxing part, just who pays them, or rather...…………..that some people have to pay them that he decides shouldn't have to.

Now that is a TRUE SOCIALIST, and everyone reading this should understand that!

Try getting your facts straight, super dupe of the greedy idiot rich GOP.
The one tax graph you really need to know
Washington Post
View attachment 256191
Sep 19, 2012 · This is what the American tax system really looks like: Not 47 percent paying nothing, but everybody paying something, and most Americans ...

So, who uses state and local services more? Are you telling me that POOR people should not invest in their community?

Does a rich person with 2 kids take MORE/LESS out of the school system as the poorer person?

Are you saying that a rich person should pay for your kids to go to school? Who had those kids?

Are you saying the poor person, should drive on roads for free? If so, why?

Remember Franco---------->you do NOT want us involved in ANY way, with what you do in your bedroom. Then do NOT make us responsible, for what YOU DO in your bedroom, by making us pay for it! If you can't pay for it, then don't do it, or don't whine when you have to!

I am saying we need a progressive tax system where the rich pay their fair share and we invest in America and Americans, not this crappy unequal unfair country the GOP is producing here the last 35 years. Your propaganda machine is the worst thing there is. Absolute garbage.

whats the richs fair share to me its if they pay the same as evrryone not more pinhead

Every tax system in the modern world has always been progressive for a good reason. Other what a flat tax is a giveaway to the rich and then there is not enough money to invest in the middle class and infrastructure. We always used to spend 2% on maintenance, since Reagan 1% basically. Roads suck airports -everything's falling apart

And your fix for infrastructure is “bring in more wetbacks to use the fuck out of it”....You dumbmothafuckers!

 

[Markle]

Right mainly middle-class and working class... Also the skyrocketing local taxes and fees are also mainly paid by them. Basically the Non Rich Basically pay twice as high state and local taxes percentage wise as the richest...

First mor9n you got a tax break that increaased your pay check .
Next lets talk about bernies plan free health care for all should raise your taxes by about 20 g a house hold .d.destroy the economy kill jobs and investments in America

bologna and bologna, fear mongered super duper. We are the richest country in the world and and have the worst inequality and upward Mobility and benefits of any of them by far thanks to you idiots and your scumbag Heroes. Only garbage propaganda makes it possible...

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Your liberal state and your liberal locality are screwing you.
You're a liberal idiot.

My liberal locality voted 73% Trump. You get what you pay for and I have always been happy to pay my taxes. In fact I used to just skip the returns and leave my refund to them.speak for your own liberal State and locality. New York is the empire State and the greatest state in the country.

Wow, not that I'm surprised that you did it but I am surprised that you so boldly boasted on a public forum that you are guilty of tax fraud by not filing tax returns. Someone who knows you could turn you in for a handsome reward. Perhaps all your Socialist friends would pass the hat and pay your taxes, fines and late fees. You know, in that Socialist spirit.