Oh the hypocrisy!

[pknopp]

See you still are averse to the truth.

And as is usually the case you have no argument to counter anything I've said.

 

[Rogue AI]

Do Tell

You imply it's OK if you go with friends. Otherwise be more clear and concise.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I've been saying this since the whole issue started up. Just think if the world had started enacting sanctions on the U.S. when we invaded Iraq.........Syria........etc.

(they should have)

Or Vietnam. That was worse than Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq combined.

 

[Manonthestreet]

You imply it's OK if you go with friends. Otherwise be more clear and concise.

Fact Iraq invaded another country....that was the cause was it not

 

[Manonthestreet]

And as is usually the case you have no argument to counter anything I've said.

You offer nothing ....still cant be honest

 

[j-mac]

The hypocrisy exhibited by some Americans over Putin’s invasion is truly mind numbing. How can they be so ignorant?

Chris Hedges: Worthy and Unworthy Victims​

Dividing the world into worthy and unworthy victims is a tactic used to justify our crimes and demonize our enemies. Conflicts will not be solved until all nations abide by international law and all victims are deemed worthy.​

The rank hypocrisy is stunning. Some of the same officials that orchestrated the invasion of Iraq, who under international law are war criminals for carrying out a preemptive war, are now chastising Russia for its violation of international law. The US bombing campaign of Iraqi urban centers, called “Shock and Awe,” saw the dropping of 3,000 bombs on civilian areas that killed over 7,000 noncombatants in the first two months of the war. Russia has yet to go to this extreme.

“I have argued that when you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime,” a FOX News host said (with a straight face) recently to Condoleezza Rice, who served as Bush’s National Security adviser during the Iraq War.

“It is certainly against every principle of international law and international order and that is why throwing the book at them now in terms of economic sanctions and punishments is also a part of it,” Rice said. “And I think the world is there. Certainly, NATO is there. He’s managed to unite NATO in ways that I didn’t think I would ever see after the end of the Cold War.”

Rice inadvertently made a case for why she should be put on trial with the rest of Bush’s enablers. She famously justified the invasion of Iraq by stating: “The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.”
Chris Hedges: Worthy and Unworthy Victims

Must be a slow news day, we have to go to the way back machine to blame America for the worlds ills....You know what most American's say to you gipper?

 

[Rogue AI]

Fact Iraq invaded another country....that was the cause was it not

Or reclaimed a province created by illegitimate means. Really a matter of perspective. The difference is, some of us don't begrudge Russia for doing things we have done. Some people choose to be hypocrites. In the end, the winner decides how it is viewed.

 

[1stNickD]

Gee did we go into Iraq alone.......and remind me what precipitated our entry

Hussein. If you defend Russia, you are human sewage.

 

[pknopp]

Or reclaimed a province created by illegitimate means. Really a matter of perspective. The difference is, some of us don't begrudge Russia for doing things we have done. Some people choose to be hypocrites. In the end, the winner decides how it is viewed.

I condemn both.

 

[Rogue AI]

I condemn both.

As is your right. I don't.

 

[1stNickD]

Or Vietnam. That was worse than Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq combined.

In Vietnam we were trying to stop the Russians from over running South Vietnams with North North Vietnams military. Almsot all of NKs weaponry came directly from Russia. You grasp of true history is nonexistent.

 

[BWK]

The hypocrisy exhibited by some Americans over Putin’s invasion is truly mind numbing. How can they be so ignorant?

Chris Hedges: Worthy and Unworthy Victims​

Dividing the world into worthy and unworthy victims is a tactic used to justify our crimes and demonize our enemies. Conflicts will not be solved until all nations abide by international law and all victims are deemed worthy.​

The rank hypocrisy is stunning. Some of the same officials that orchestrated the invasion of Iraq, who under international law are war criminals for carrying out a preemptive war, are now chastising Russia for its violation of international law. The US bombing campaign of Iraqi urban centers, called “Shock and Awe,” saw the dropping of 3,000 bombs on civilian areas that killed over 7,000 noncombatants in the first two months of the war. Russia has yet to go to this extreme.

“I have argued that when you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime,” a FOX News host said (with a straight face) recently to Condoleezza Rice, who served as Bush’s National Security adviser during the Iraq War.

“It is certainly against every principle of international law and international order and that is why throwing the book at them now in terms of economic sanctions and punishments is also a part of it,” Rice said. “And I think the world is there. Certainly, NATO is there. He’s managed to unite NATO in ways that I didn’t think I would ever see after the end of the Cold War.”

Rice inadvertently made a case for why she should be put on trial with the rest of Bush’s enablers. She famously justified the invasion of Iraq by stating: “The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.”
Chris Hedges: Worthy and Unworthy Victims

On this we agree. However, how do we fix it? Because, as we speak, we own Central and South America and treat those people as refugees and illegals. We took their resources, their politics, their way of life, and forced those folks to flee or join a cartel. In other words, the hypocrisy continues.

And to add more misery and worry, we have a super power threatening nukes. It seems to me, the powers who are, have been digging a mass cemetery for planet earth, for the sake of Imperialism, wealth, and power. And hypocrisy is just a word for all super powers to ignore.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

In Vietnam we were trying to stop the Russians from over running South Vietnams with North North Vietnams military. Almsot all of NKs weaponry came directly from Russia. You grasp of true history is nonexistent.

Oh I know what happened. In the end, we lost and hauled out of saigon.

 

[j-mac]

As is your right. I don't.

Cuz you're a communist...

 

[gipper]

Mmmm, yes, but this is also like arguing about a man who robbed a bank without considering the motivation to do so. Did he rob the bank because his children were starving? Or did he rob a bank because he had drug money to pay up?

In either case a crime was committed and a better decision should have been made. But we have juries and judges because automatic sentences are not just.

If your making the case that the US government went war based on ethical motivations, I don’t agree. Just honestly evaluate the nations attacked by the US since 9/11. All have been essentially destroyed. Massive civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure. Is Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Yemen better off after US military operations?

 

[BWK]

See there arent many honest people here.....once more slowly....Gulf War One....what was the cause

Daddy Bush's private oil interests with Kuwait.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Hussein. If you defend Russia, you are human sewage.

There is no defense for russia or ukraine.

 

[j-mac]

If your making the case that the US government went war based on ethical motivations, I don’t agree. Just honestly evaluate the nations attacked by the US since 9/11. All have been essentially destroyed. Massive civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure. Is Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Yemen better off after US military operations?

And 9/11 was an inside job, right?

 

[gipper]

In Vietnam we were trying to stop the Russians from over running South Vietnams with North North Vietnams military. Almsot all of NKs weaponry came directly from Russia. You grasp of true history is nonexistent.

Russians? WTF are you talking about?

 

[gipper]

And 9/11 was an inside job, right?

Please leave the thread. You aren’t welcome here with your stupidity.