CrusaderFrank
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So, if it's Booooooooooooooooosh's fault why are Holder and Obama acting guilty?
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While I certainly am no fan of Eric Holder (the wooden indian) it's beginning to look like the BATF is solely or at least mainly responsible for this debacle, which is one more outrageous disaster perpetrated by this rogue agency. Waco, Ruby Ridge, now this.That means Holder is shit as a leader of the DOJ and should resign his position.
I have a hard fucking time believing that Holder had no clue about an operation that delivered a shitload of guns from the U.S. to Mexican drug cartels and resulted in hundreds of murders including that of a Border Patrol agent.
If he didn't, he needs to go, along with the people who did this behind his back.
Holder did say the character of F+F was not mentioned in that 2010 meeting. And the exATF chief never told the Bush OR Obama administration about it- typical out of control Boooosh agency, like GSA. You dupes have the attention span of gnats. And want to do that catastrophic mess AGAIN, but a W clone with NO personality this time. Brilliant!
Holder also said the 2010 meeting didn't discuss Fast and Furious at all. If he lied about the first why should I believe him about the second?
Holder did say the character of F+F was not mentioned in that 2010 meeting. And the exATF chief never told the Bush OR Obama administration about it- typical out of control Boooosh agency, like GSA. You dupes have the attention span of gnats. And want to do that catastrophic mess AGAIN, but a W clone with NO personality this time. Brilliant!
Holder also said the 2010 meeting didn't discuss Fast and Furious at all. If he lied about the first why should I believe him about the second?
Sounds like gunwalking was a stupid clusterfuck - under Bush and Obama. However, it is my understanding that the bullet that killed Brian Terry cannot be definitively matched ballistically to either of the two gunwalking guns found at the scene.
Sounds like gunwalking was a stupid clusterfuck - under Bush and Obama. However, it is my understanding that the bullet that killed Brian Terry cannot be definitively matched ballistically to either of the two gunwalking guns found at the scene.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Key words... Found at the scene. By that logic, maybe Mary Joe Kopechne drowned in a different car than Ted Kennedy's limo...That was found at the scene... Ridiculous.
Sounds like gunwalking was a stupid clusterfuck - under Bush and Obama. However, it is my understanding that the bullet that killed Brian Terry cannot be definitively matched ballistically to either of the two gunwalking guns found at the scene.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Key words... Found at the scene. By that logic, maybe Mary Joe Kopechne drowned in a different car than Ted Kennedy's limo...That was found at the scene... Ridiculous.
It's a form of mental illness, it's Obama Fluffing
So how many guns were at the scene, genius?
Matthew Miller. formerly a top aide to Eric Holder was just interviewed on TV.
Top Aide to Holder Is Leaving Justice Dept. - Washington Wire - WSJ
The Ed Schultz Show
Mr. Miller said all of these operations were started under Bush and they continued at a low level without the knowledge of Obama Administration officials. In fact, he said the head of the ATF (The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) stated, under oath, that he never told Holder of the operation. He said the very day Holder was informed of the operation, he issued an order for this operation to stop.
ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Does anyone understand what that means? It means that Holder learned of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry's death before he even heard of "Operation Gun Runner".
And the most damning comment of all. Mr. Miller said that Darrell Issa has all of this information but refused to let the former head of the ATF testfy.
If this is true, the Mitt will hit the fan. This far ahead of the election, all the facts will come out. Republicans will have a lot of "splainin'" to do. This would have worked better two weeks before the election. But now? When all the facts come out? It's like Shirley Sherrod all over again, but on a larger scale.
And yet the WH Press Secretary Credits Holder with Personally Ending F&F months before he admits to knowing about it. lol
I mean wow a Former Aide Says he didn't know, it must be true. Call off the Investigation.
lol
Either He knew, and is a Criminal, Or he didn't know and is incompetent. Take your pick.
Sounds like gunwalking was a stupid clusterfuck - under Bush and Obama. However, it is my understanding that the bullet that killed Brian Terry cannot be definitively matched ballistically to either of the two gunwalking guns found at the scene.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Key words... Found at the scene. By that logic, maybe Mary Joe Kopechne drowned in a different car than Ted Kennedy's limo...That was found at the scene... Ridiculous.
Matthew Miller. formerly a top aide to Eric Holder was just interviewed on TV.
Top Aide to Holder Is Leaving Justice Dept. - Washington Wire - WSJ
The Ed Schultz Show
Mr. Miller said all of these operations were started under Bush and they continued at a low level without the knowledge of Obama Administration officials. In fact, he said the head of the ATF (The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) stated, under oath, that he never told Holder of the operation. He said the very day Holder was informed of the operation, he issued an order for this operation to stop.
ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Does anyone understand what that means? It means that Holder learned of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry's death before he even heard of "Operation Gun Runner".
And the most damning comment of all. Mr. Miller said that Darrell Issa has all of this information but refused to let the former head of the ATF testfy.
If this is true, the Mitt will hit the fan. This far ahead of the election, all the facts will come out. Republicans will have a lot of "splainin'" to do. This would have worked better two weeks before the election. But now? When all the facts come out? It's like Shirley Sherrod all over again, but on a larger scale.
Eric Withholder needs to come up with the goods or resign...
Sounds like gunwalking was a stupid clusterfuck - under Bush and Obama. However, it is my understanding that the bullet that killed Brian Terry cannot be definitively matched ballistically to either of the two gunwalking guns found at the scene.
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Key words... Found at the scene. By that logic, maybe Mary Joe Kopechne drowned in a different car than Ted Kennedy's limo...That was found at the scene... Ridiculous.
There were FIVE Mexicans involved in that shootout. Did only TWO of them have guns?