Obama's lie: If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan

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    My renewal came for my policy for myself, my wife and two daughters and the rate went from $410 a year to $1,066 a month. Why? Obama lied. I had insurance, Obama said I could keep my plan. I like my plan. I have catastrophic insurance. It comes with a $10,000 deductible, then pays pretty much everything. I've never hit the limit, so I've never gotten a dime. What I want:

    1) Health "insurance" not health "care." If there's an actual big thing, like cancer or an automobile accident, then I want insurance for that. If one of those happen to my family, the $10K deductible will be the least thing I'm worried about.

    2) The fee caps. Our healthcare industry is idiotic where if you're paying a doctor directly, you pay like 3 times as much. I want my policy to limit what they can charge, then I pay it.

    Let's do the math. Even though I'm covered and pay my bills politicians in Washington DC don't like my policy. My quote is $650 a month more. That's $7,800 a year more in certain cost to save me from a worst case $10,000. Thanks for making this more affordable, Obama.

    So, here's my plan. I am going to get another catastrophic policy, working on it now. So I will be paying for both a policy and the fine for not having a policy approved by politicians because it's still cheaper than getting a policy approved by politicians. Anyone remember the Democrats mentioning that when they sold us this bill of goods?

    BTW, as of now, it's not clear the fine will be enforced, at least in the beginning. You should never lie on a tax form, but it's not clear what the IRS can or will do if you simply leave it blank and don't pay it. I'm going to figure paying it in my budget though.
     
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    Sucks to be you, man. But democrats and their sycophants won. Dont forget that.
     
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    The liberals I know are upset. Generally their policy rates went down slightly, but their deductibles and co-pays skyrocketed.

    I am laughing to myself. Remember how the whole thing was liberals bemoaning how what they cared about were the uninsured? And when it comes and they are going to pay more, they show their real motivation all along was themselves.
     
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    obama was right when he said you can keep your insurance, but left out the details of what price.
     
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    Those darned details...
     
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    nothing changed with mine. from what I have read, I am one of the lucky ones..
     
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    Well, that's not even the case for many Americans either. Many companies, such as UPS are dropping working spouses from their workers coverage when the spouse is able to get insurance through their own employer since it's not mandated that spouses be covered in the ACA. So if a wife is covered under her husband's plan, along with their children, but she works and has insurance available to her thru her own employer, she can be dropped from her husband's plan. Doesn't matter that it might be more expensive to get it where she works, doesn't matter that the coverage may not be near as good, doesn't matter if her current doctors aren't covered with her employer's plan, she now has to go under different insurance than everyone else in her family. I am covered under my husband's plan, but I work for a major corporation and waive the health insurance, therefore I get a refund monthly because I don't get the insurance thru my work. So, I would lose that refund, lose my health insurance, and potentially pay more for a worse plan should my husband's company opt to do what UPS is doing. And I think that this is only the tip of the ice berg. I know that my own company charges a $125 a month surcharge to cover a spouse that has insurance available thru their own employer. The days of families all having the same insurance and plan are apparently over.
     
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    Yeah, I got the joke. But nope. My brother's individual catastrophic policy was cancelled. He will now be forced onto the exchanges where his premium and likely his deductible will increase because now his insurance has to cover maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental). My brother is 55, single, no kids. Where is the left screaming about the unfairness of that? :eusa_shhh:
     
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    So much misinfo- Who says your rate went up because of O-CARE- COULD EASILY JUST BE YOUR TIME- costs doubled just under W...

    RELAX AND SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, HATER DUPES- DEMS DIDN'T DO THIS TO BECOME UNPOPULAR- damn shift key- and everything you've been told is bs...
     
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    I explained why my rates went up in the op. It's not that long, even a liberal can read it.

    For benchmark though, the prior year my rates went up from $360 to $410. A hefty percent, but nothing like Obama did when he made my insurance "affordable." Thanks...
     

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