Obama's honeymoon is over - now it's his recession

[del]

By the way, I can find no reference to Obama making any such statement.

that's because he said it about pennsylvanians.
huge difference, right?

Hmm, let's see: It wasn't steelworkers, and it wasn't in Ohio, and it had nothing to do with trade. Does that mean you win?

Further recollection puts it at a town meeting during the campaign where he wasn't talking to any particular group, but happened to choose a controversial word when discussing the plight of poor working class people: "...And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them

Gee, the truth is so easy. Next?

what do you think people in western PA used to do when they had work? grow belgian endive?

he wasn't talking to any particular group? was he speaking to the surf to hone his skills like demosthenes? oops.

way to keep it honest, maggie.


hack

 

[elvis]

That's bullshit. I never said anyone who disagreed with me wanted "America" to fail. There are many, however, who DO want OBAMA to fail. And for now anyway, he represents America. If you think that's not true, then you just climbed out of a cave.

You have said a number of times that those who didn't like Obama were supporting our enemies. then you whine when people don't "play nice".

I never once said any such thing. Why? Because it never occurs to me to USE the same stupid ploys against someone who disagrees with me on politics by accusing them of supporting enemies. I invite you to do a search of everything I posted and prove where I said anything remotely resembling that.

I have complained in the past about people (um, another Elvis, surprise surprise ) of calling me disgusing sexist names, like a ****. THAT, my dear man, has zero in common with calling someone who disagrees with me an "enemy."

Interesting how the rabid Obama haters seem to be actually supporting U.S. enemies now. Pathetic.

there's one.

 

[Oddball]

Dontcha just HATE it when that happens?!?!???

 

[Maple]

He sure isn't doing anything to fix it. That stimulus bill was no stimulus, it's a big fat pork barrel spending project and if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until he gets his cap and trade through. Then nationalized health care. Oh boy, I can hardly wait, no one will have a job then.

 

[Annie]

[Quote: Originally Posted by Big Black Dog
Let's all hold hands and blame it on Bush... Truly you don't think any of this could possibly be Obama's fault! I'm shocked. He's going to spend us back into prosperity. The large number of unemployed people can be supported by Obama's give away programs. No need for worry. The government is going to take care of you from craddle to grave.
What Obama WILL do, and what Bush DID do are two issues. The thread's title is that Obama "owns" the recession. The hell he does...

No matter how hard you people try to pretend that George W. Bush's own policies did not have a dramatic effect on today's economic situation, it just won't fly. You can't possibly be that /QUOTE]

Tell me again how all the money Obama has spent, and has plans to spend, has been good for the economy. I don't seem to be able to get a grip on that. Obama has spent more money since he's been in office than all of the other President's in American history combined has spent. Is this something you want to blame on Bush too? I think you're out of your mind if you can't see how Obama is running this country into the ground and turning it into a socialist nation. The value of the dollar is going to collapse if he keeps spending like he's doing and it will take a wheelbarrow full of it to buy a loaf of bread. You people that keep blindly following Obama like the rats followed the Pied Piper need to wake up and smell the coffee. Obama is very bad news...

They bulk of the money will his next year, to bolster what's left of the economy. In any case, doesn't matter long run.

 

[Meister]

He sure isn't doing anything to fix it. That stimulus bill was no stimulus, it's a big fat pork barrel spending project and if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until he gets his cap and trade through. Then nationalized health care. Oh boy, I can hardly wait, no one will have a job then.

Not too mention there is talk of another stimulus package for this fall. Oh yeah, that damn Geo. Bush...it's all his fault.

 

[edthecynic]

I didn't know Rush was our leader.

Well, LimpBoy has admitted it.

November 8, 2006
RUSH: I understand what this program has become in America and I understand the leadership position it has.

 

[elvis]

I didn't know Rush was our leader.

Well, LimpBoy has admitted it.

November 8, 2006
RUSH: I understand what this program has become in America and I understand the leadership position it has.

I don't give a good fuck what Rush has admitted to. I can admit to being the King of Monaco. Doesn't make it so.

 

[Old Rocks]

Obama's honeymoon is officially over:

Now it's President Obama's recession and job losses are worry No. 1
June 30

Top of the News: If he ever really had one, President Obama's honeymoon officially ended with today's consumer confidence report.

The Conference Board said its index of consumer confidence for June dropped to 49.3, from a revised 54.8 in May. This is a yardstick that, among other things, gives retailers a sense of whether business will rebound or not. In good times, the index is in the 80s. Today's decline was unexpected.

The big worry among consumers is continued job losses. The Labor Department reported today that joblessness rose in metro areas again. In Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, the May rate was 8.8 percent, a year-over-year increase of 4.3 percentage points. Portland posted an 11.6 percent unemployment rate. In Spartanburg, S.C., it's 12.3 percent; Rocky Mount, N.C., 14.2 percent; Muskegon, Mich., 15.8 percent; El Centro, Calif., nearly 27 percent.

Fairly or not, it is now Mr. Obama's recession, and jobs are the top concern.

www.seatttletimes.nwsource.com

LOL. Ignore reality, flap your yap with talking points, it still comes back to eight years of Republican incompetance and corruption that is not going to be fixed in just six months. The people on the factory floor, or those that used to be on the factory floor and are now unemployed know where the fault lies in the current economic hard times. And it is not with President Obama.

 

[rdking647]

since most economists seem to think the economy is bottoming does that mean Obama can also claim the credit for the recovery?
just remember unemployment tends to lag the recovery

 

[editec]

since most economists seem to think the economy is bottoming does that mean Obama can also claim the credit for the recovery?
just remember unemployment tends to lag the recovery

Not really.

No more than we can blame him or Bush II entirely for the depression we're in right now.

Presidents and the government have SOME power, but they do not have complete control over the economy.

 

[midcan5]

Here's one, though I don't expect leftist worshipers of FDR to accept the truth.

Great Myths of the Great Depression [Mackinac Center]

Ah, a free enterprise think tank revisionist history piece, how appropriate. The trouble is this is made up history, the facts as outlined in the urls counter this revisionist BS.

What can one make of these think tanks, mostly conservative, that are funded by some sort of magic? Actually corporations fund them for obvious reasons.

Mackinac Center for Public Policy - SourceWatch

These groups feign openness but are tools just as you are a tool. Next piece please.

 

[MaggieMae]

that's because he said it about pennsylvanians.
huge difference, right?

Hmm, let's see: It wasn't steelworkers, and it wasn't in Ohio, and it had nothing to do with trade. Does that mean you win?

Further recollection puts it at a town meeting during the campaign where he wasn't talking to any particular group, but happened to choose a controversial word when discussing the plight of poor working class people: "...And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them

Gee, the truth is so easy. Next?

what do you think people in western PA used to do when they had work? grow belgian endive?

he wasn't talking to any particular group? was he speaking to the surf to hone his skills like demosthenes? oops.

way to keep it honest, maggie.


hack

HAWWWWWK AKKKKKKK ACHT!!! Is it your "job" or something to attack me (hawk me?) on everything I say?

Those words were said during a town hall speech, hardly at a union hall full of steelworkers.

 

[MaggieMae]

You have said a number of times that those who didn't like Obama were supporting our enemies. then you whine when people don't "play nice".

I never once said any such thing. Why? Because it never occurs to me to USE the same stupid ploys against someone who disagrees with me on politics by accusing them of supporting enemies. I invite you to do a search of everything I posted and prove where I said anything remotely resembling that.

I have complained in the past about people (um, another Elvis, surprise surprise ) of calling me disgusing sexist names, like a ****. THAT, my dear man, has zero in common with calling someone who disagrees with me an "enemy."

Interesting how the rabid Obama haters seem to be actually supporting U.S. enemies now. Pathetic.

there's one.

Yep. And fully warranted, too. It was incredible how many righties jumped to slam Obama when he wouldn't immediately embrace the Iranian protesters, but were mum when it came to renouncing Achmedinejad. I wasn't the only one who noticed, sir. The comment was made to make the point that it doesn't matter WHAT Obama does, you people will take the opposite view. Sick.

Next?

 

[MaggieMae]

He sure isn't doing anything to fix it. That stimulus bill was no stimulus, it's a big fat pork barrel spending project and if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until he gets his cap and trade through. Then nationalized health care. Oh boy, I can hardly wait, no one will have a job then.

Federal Fiscal Relief Is Working As Intended — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

 

[MaggieMae]

He sure isn't doing anything to fix it. That stimulus bill was no stimulus, it's a big fat pork barrel spending project and if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until he gets his cap and trade through. Then nationalized health care. Oh boy, I can hardly wait, no one will have a job then.

Not too mention there is talk of another stimulus package for this fall. Oh yeah, that damn Geo. Bush...it's all his fault.

The "talk" is by the "talking heads," period.

 

[Oddball]

Here's one, though I don't expect leftist worshipers of FDR to accept the truth.

Great Myths of the Great Depression [Mackinac Center]

Ah, a free enterprise think tank revisionist history piece, how appropriate. The trouble is this is made up history, the facts as outlined in the urls counter this revisionist BS.

What can one make of these think tanks, mostly conservative, that are funded by some sort of magic? Actually corporations fund them for obvious reasons.

Mackinac Center for Public Policy - SourceWatch

These groups feign openness but are tools just as you are a tool. Next piece please.

Revisionist my ass. Mebby you should read through the end notes and references.

But hey, when you can't refute the facts with any of your own, the natural next step for mental midgets is the reducto ad hominem to poison the well and disparage the source.

 

[sealybobo]

Here's one, though I don't expect leftist worshipers of FDR to accept the truth.

Great Myths of the Great Depression [Mackinac Center]

Ah, a free enterprise think tank revisionist history piece, how appropriate. The trouble is this is made up history, the facts as outlined in the urls counter this revisionist BS.

What can one make of these think tanks, mostly conservative, that are funded by some sort of magic? Actually corporations fund them for obvious reasons.

Mackinac Center for Public Policy - SourceWatch

These groups feign openness but are tools just as you are a tool. Next piece please.

Yea. Righties always do this. The other day I remember that they said the libs hushed up this guys report on Global warming.

I guessed that it was because his findings were not based on fact. They were just his right wing spin on the subject, straight out of Rush's lectures.

And it turned out I was right. I guessed that was probably more likely the reason, and not that the left wanted to supress credible evidence that GW is made up. I'm not buying that spin at all.

Dude, you dishonest fuck.

 

[Meister]

He sure isn't doing anything to fix it. That stimulus bill was no stimulus, it's a big fat pork barrel spending project and if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until he gets his cap and trade through. Then nationalized health care. Oh boy, I can hardly wait, no one will have a job then.

Not too mention there is talk of another stimulus package for this fall. Oh yeah, that damn Geo. Bush...it's all his fault.

The "talk" is by the "talking heads," period.

Talking heads? Could you be more specific?

 

[MaggieMae]

Not too mention there is talk of another stimulus package for this fall. Oh yeah, that damn Geo. Bush...it's all his fault.

The "talk" is by the "talking heads," period.

Talking heads? Could you be more specific?

Chatterers on the cable news channels ("could we?" or "should we?"). There has been NO consideration in Washington for another stimulus.