Obama's Climate Is Changing

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    Hoax ......
     
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    "Economists tell us that a modest warming would improve agriculture and forestry and increase GNP."

    WTF do economists know about climate?



    "On the contrary, an independent assessment of the same published information by the Non-Governmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) reaches exactly the opposite result: Nature, not human activity, rules the climate. "



    LOL! The "NIPCC" is just some guy with a web page! This is hilarious!


    "3. Finally, be aware that carbon dioxide may not have as much of an impact on temperatures as projected by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). While their 2007 Report asserts a better-than-90% certainty that the average temperature increase over the last 50 years is human-caused, they have produced no credible evidence to back this up. None!"


    That's a blatant lie. http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf


    "And 31,000 scientists, about one-third of them with Ph.D degrees, have signed the Oregon Petition against the Kyoto Protocol."

    This is just too much!!! That supposed list of "31,000" scientists was discredited a while ago, why do morons like this guy persist in bringing it up? The list is full of people who aren't scientists, people who have degrees in scientific fields that are irrelevant to climate research, medical doctors, dead people, and people who don't even exist, etc. Its a bullshit list.
     
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    Pay no mind to Spider...he was brainwashed..I mean indoctrinated at LSU. He is proud of that..so be gentle.
     
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    ScienceDaily (Dec. 13, 2007) — The decade of 1998-2007 is the warmest on record, according to data sources obtained by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). The global mean surface temperature for 2007 is currently estimated at 0.41°C/0.74°F above the 1961-1990 annual average of 14.00°C/57.20°F.


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    The University of East Anglia and the Met Office's Hadley Centre have released preliminary global temperature figures for 2007, which show the top 11 warmest years all occurring in the last 13 years. The provisional global figure for 2007 using data from January to November, currently places the year as the seventh warmest on records dating back to 1850.

    Top 11 Warmest Years On Record Have All Been In Last 13 Years
     
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    Global Temperature Trends: 2007 Summation
    The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle.

    Figure 1 shows 2007 temperature anomalies relative to the 1951-1980 base period mean. The global mean temperature anomaly, 0.57°C (about 1°F) warmer than the 1951-1980 mean, continues the strong warming trend of the past thirty years that has been confidently attributed to the effect of increasing human-made greenhouse gases (GHGs) (Hansen et al. 2007). The eight warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since 1998, and the 14 warmest years in the record have all occurred since 1990.

    Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation
     
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    the sky is falling!!!!!! The sky is falling!!!!!!
     
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    Ah, the Global Warming faithful still cling to their dogma!

    Facts are facts folks - the earth has been cooling - and rather significantly, in the last few years. There was a general warming that culminated in 1998, followed by flat temps, followed by declining temps.

    Numerous mainstream media outlets, supported by the quick-to-print "science articles", had declared 2007 was to be the hottest year on record - even warmer than 1998. It was not. Far from it in fact. 2007 was cooler than 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2001....etc. It was in fact cooler than 1995.

    The supporters of Global Warming, the scientists who get funding to write articles declaring its fact - the media outlets who make it news, the industries such as Enron who spent millions spreading its mantra, hoped 2007 proved to be a mere anomoly - a hiccup on the way to a continued (albeit slight, as it has always been greatly exaggerated) warming trend.

    So then came 2008 - a year significantly colder than 2007. In fact, 2008 tied or broke 115 cold temperature records around the world.

    And the start of 2009 is proving to be colder than that of 2008.

    So the din of the Global Warming aka Climate Change junta has now reached an all time high. Story after story is hitting the media about how something must be done NOW before it is too late...and yet, this time around, the majority are not listening so much. A recent poll showed of 20 topics of concern to Americans Global Warming ranked dead last. Another poll showed a majority of Americans now feel global warming has less to do with humankind as it does with the natural cycles of earth's climate. (Imagine that!)

    And even some in the mainstream media are questioning the hoax, asking questions of it for once, and disputing the over-reaching claims by the science industry beholden to keeping global warming propped up. This industry has a friend in Obama, who, like almost all Democrats, are deeply vested in selling the hysteria that is Global Warming, even as more and more voters shrug over its growing insignificance to their daily lives.

    Frankly, I would like a bit warmer temps - these past few years have been far too cold, particularly the winter months. But of course if 2009 sees a nice warm summer, the Global Warming machinery will be churning the propaganda out tenfold so as to assure continued $$$$ to be made.

    Ah well...
     
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    Sinatra, 2008 tied 2001 at the eighth warmest year on record. That is cooling, especially considering that 2008 was a solar minimum year with a strong La Nina of unuasual duration. That is cooling?

    NOAA: 2008 Global Temperature Ties as Eighth Warmest on Record
    January 14, 2009

    The year 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. For December alone, the month also ranked as the eighth warmest globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.

    The analyses in NCDC’s global reports are based on preliminary data, which are subject to revision. Additional quality control is applied to the data when late reports are received several weeks after the end of the month and as increased scientific methods improve NCDC’s processing algorithms.

    NCDC’s ranking of 2008 as the eighth warmest year compares to a ranking of ninth warmest based on an analysis by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. The NOAA and NASA analyses differ slightly in methodology, but both use data from NOAA's National Climatic Data Center – the federal government's official source for climate data.

    NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: 2008 Global Temperature Ties as Eigth Warmest on Record
     
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    Sorry, I didn't mean to use factually true information in my argument.
     

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